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« Reply #45 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 21:54:42 »

I have never heard anything so bloody stupid.

Only the premier league could come up with such a crazy scheme. It is purely about money and sheer greed, nothing more
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« Reply #46 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 22:34:41 »

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I have never heard anything so bloody stupid.

Only the premier league could come up with such a crazy scheme. It is purely about money and sheer greed, nothing more


I agree.  :shock:
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« Reply #47 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 22:34:42 »

Slightly different tack - some while ago there was talk that the "top" teams in europe would break away and form a super league.  I was horrified at the time but now I wish they'd just fuck off and do it.  
I remember back to a time when Man U vs Bayern was a bloody event - because it was so rare.  Cue some marketing knob head - "I know, if we played the best in europe every week, we'll have years and years of these "special nights".  No you won't you stupid cunts, you'll devalue it simply because it will become ordinary :evil:  :evil:
Well fuck off and be ordinary and let the rest of us compete in the english league the way we always have done.  Rant over!
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« Reply #48 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 22:36:22 »

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Slightly different tack - some while ago there was talk that the "top" teams in europe would break away and form a super league.  I was horrified at the time but now I wish they'd just fuck off and do it.  
I remember back to a time when Man U vs Bayern was a bloody event - because it was so rare.  Cue some marketing knob head - "I know, if we played the best in europe every week, we'll have years and years of these "special nights".  No you won't you stupid cunts, you'll devalue it simply because it will become ordinary :evil:  :evil:
Well fuck off and be ordinary and let the rest of us compete in the english league the way we always have done.  Rant over!


How to make the elitist premiership even more elitist - imagine being a west brom fan who goes week in, week out, you want your team to go up and do well, but not too well because you'd never fucking get to see them play unless you're minted and can afford to fly to a european country every other week.
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« Reply #49 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 22:59:03 »

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All that was decided that as a major league, it is something that we ought to examine. We do have lots of overseas fans that are unable to come to matches played in the UK so I think it is something that should be explored.


Sounds like fucking Franchise - can't be arsed to support and develop their own football clubs - just want to buy into an existing establishment and move it. There are very few reasons why an overseas fan would support ManU and not their local team.

If they started doing this they would get to see football each Saturday and help their own side progress and develop. If the premiership started playing abroad it would have a negative effect on local teams who wouldn't attract the same crowds in comparison.
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« Reply #50 on: Thursday, February 7, 2008, 23:03:06 »

Spot on Axs. I grew up with 92 teams in the professional league and although I must hate at least a quarter of them, the local representation is still what I love the most about our football.  It matters to me that Grimsby survive, that Millwall is a cunt of a place to go to, that Gillingham hate our guts and that Bristol Rovers have a shite ground.  I am gutted that Bournemouth are in severe shit and have lost points - although delighted that those Leeds cunts lost theirs.  Sod 2 million turnovers per game and arrogant fucks on 120 grand a week.  If our football ever ends up with 16 franchises I'll never watch it again and my life will be vastly poorer for it
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« Reply #51 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 10:47:18 »

Can those of you old enough to remember the foundation of the Premier League clearly, and young enough not to be suffering from pre-senile dementia and forgotten, confirm something for me.

Wasn't the justification for the whole fucking thing something along the lines of.......

"We need a elite league to improve the quality of English football, to improve our players, to make the England side more competitive and our club sides better able to compete in Europe. That needs a smaller top division with elite clubs playing fewer games per season."

And now we've got a big fat rich league full of foreign players, playing more games than ever, flying off to play stupid exhibition games in fucking Dubai or somewhere whenever they have a free weekend and now proposing to play the occasional league game in fucking Melbourne.

It's enough to make you think the whole Premier League breakaway might actually have been simply about the money...

Who'd have thought.

Cunts.
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« Reply #52 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 10:55:27 »

The sole reason for the Premier League was Rupert Murdoch - FACT!
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« Reply #53 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:09:12 »

Money aside, the main issue for me is the stupid randomness of the extra game draw devaluing the 'fairness' of the competition. If a title is decided by less than 3 points it meaningless thanks to the extra 'random' game.

Just wondered, but I think I'd have less of a problem if they pitched it like NHL did when they came - make the 'international leg (y'all) part of the regular season. Play the 2  regular season games whilst there, i.e if Man U v Derby is the chosen fixture, Derby play Man U as 'home team' then a few days later as 'away team'.

Don't get me wrong, they'd still be money grabbing whores shitting on their own fans but at least the league competition would be 'level'.
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« Reply #54 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:34:01 »

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Money aside, the main issue for me is the stupid randomness of the extra game draw devaluing the 'fairness' of the competition. If a title is decided by less than 3 points it meaningless thanks to the extra 'random' game.

Just wondered, but I think I'd have less of a problem if they pitched it like NHL did when they came - make the 'international leg (y'all) part of the regular season. Play the 2  regular season games whilst there, i.e if Man U v Derby is the chosen fixture, Derby play Man U as 'home team' then a few days later as 'away team'.

Don't get me wrong, they'd still be money grabbing whores shitting on their own fans but at least the league competition would be 'level'.
Agree with that.

The plan is total bollocks and sounds like the sort of thing Sepp Blatter might come out with. What about these fans who haven't missed a game for 40 years? They pour their life and soul into the club and then can't go to a game because its being held in California/Dubai/Melbourne/Zanzibar

I'm so glad I never got sucked into supporting a money-grabbing club. The FL is where it's at!
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« Reply #55 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:34:18 »

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Money aside, the main issue for me is the stupid randomness of the extra game draw devaluing the 'fairness' of the competition. If a title is decided by less than 3 points it meaningless thanks to the extra 'random' game.

Just wondered, but I think I'd have less of a problem if they pitched it like NHL did when they came - make the 'international leg (y'all) part of the regular season. Play the 2  regular season games whilst there, i.e if Man U v Derby is the chosen fixture, Derby play Man U as 'home team' then a few days later as 'away team'.

Don't get me wrong, they'd still be money grabbing whores shitting on their own fans but at least the league competition would be 'level'.


Just to use your example, Batch, how many fans do you think Derby would have at Thailand's National Stadium and how many would Man United get? It would effectively be two 'home' games for Man United.

Even the way they're talking about it now, the smaller clubs are going to lose out. 60,000 people might turn up, but they'll be turning up to see Derby get hammered by their 'heroes'. The only Derby fans there will be the 50 or so loyal/daft enough to fly out there from Derby. So The Rams will pick up a few million quid for taking part and United will hoover up a merchandising fortune, thus making the league even less balanced than it is now.

But then if Derby are stupid enough to vote for it...
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« Reply #56 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:46:25 »

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Just to use your example, Batch, how many fans do you think Derby would have at Thailand's National Stadium and how many would Man United get? It would effectively be two 'home' games for Man United.


It's not perfect, but better than a random extra game.  And as you say, if the clubs vote for it, tough shit.

BTW: I'm not for it in any sense of the word. It's shouldn't be allowed unless it is a pre or post season tournament.
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« Reply #57 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 12:04:16 »

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Just to use your example, Batch, how many fans do you think Derby would have at Thailand's National Stadium and how many would Man United get? It would effectively be two 'home' games for Man United.


Many Thai's support Arsenal AND Man U AND Liverpool AND Chelsea, and probably know the players better than their own national team.

I reckon that filling the 50k ish stadium would not be a problem, and in the case of say Derby vs Man U then the stadium would be a sea of red.

I can't even think of a place out here that I could buy a Derby shirt if I wanted to.
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« Reply #58 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 12:24:31 »

It's shite.

Who gives a fuck if some tossers on Oz wanna see Man U v Liverpool? If you wanna see it, get on a fucking plane and come over here and watch it! If I wanna see some Aussie Rules football I'd want the experience of seeing it where it is supposed to be played with the proper fans, not  have it brought over here and played at fucking Wembley so I can watch it with a load of corporate spackers.
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« Reply #59 on: Friday, February 8, 2008, 12:39:55 »

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Money aside, the main issue for me is the stupid randomness of the extra game draw devaluing the 'fairness' of the competition. If a title is decided by less than 3 points it meaningless thanks to the extra 'random' game.

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I thought the "fairness" of the Premiershit had long gone. Its got to be bad when the Press are orgasmic about the possibility of another club breaking into the top 4  but even then its not about how good Everton etc are its a case of how crap Liverpool are.  
The randomness, however, is more likely to affect the bottom of the Premiershit than the bottom so who cares eh.
Thank God I support Swindon.
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