Is the England game tonight?

[JPC82]

is that fucking cunt lawrenson calling me a geek

    that was ace

[kaufman]

i'm still laughin at lawro's comment.  comic timing to perfection  

[pauld]

is that fucking cunt lawrenson calling me a geek

Yep you personally. Oooh, he's just called you a speccy wanker as well. I'd do him.

Capello worries me, he looks too much like Bowden. I keep seeing him out the corner of my eye and hearing "I've got a game plan .... in my head". It might be unfair but I'm never going to like him because of this. That and he's a Nazi.

[adje]

er yeah

I'll put the kettle on, give me a shout when we look world class, in the old days we actually did.

chin up yer miserable grump. When, in the last 20 years, have england ever looked remotley world class in the finals of a tournament?

arse

European championships under Venables in England, knocked out on penalties in Germany when Robson was manager.

Oh bum me 2-1 up

i was only 3 months old at wc '90, but after reading books and looking at highlights and shit like that it seems we were lucky to get to the semi's. A truly world class team doesn't need a last minute goal to beat belgium, or two penaltys to beat cameroon.

And euro 96 i can't really comment on again, but from what i can tell we only played really well once, against holland. And we were at home too.

Absolutely spot-on there David

[Reg Smeeton]

You asked, I answered, last four in both competitions.
Not even qualified this time and not likely again if we play like this.

So when we thrashed the favourites Holland 4-1 we were lucky.
We outplayed Germany in the world cup in the semi, definitely the best side in the competition, lost on penalties again.

he stated other than that game delly welly

A world class England won the world cup after a 0-0 draw with France, a lucky win against a better Argentina with 10 men, a very competitive 2-1 win against Portgual, a disputed goal against Germany in the final.
They are remembered as the best we ever had, Chewey Mint.

  I'd quite forgotten the 0-0 v France....in fact it never happened we won 2-0.

 There's bollocks and then  there's bollocks.

[herthab]

er yeah

I'll put the kettle on, give me a shout when we look world class, in the old days we actually did.

chin up yer miserable grump. When, in the last 20 years, have england ever looked remotley world class in the finals of a tournament?

arse

European championships under Venables in England, knocked out on penalties in Germany when Robson was manager.

Oh bum me 2-1 up

i was only 3 months old at wc '90, but after reading books and looking at highlights and shit like that it seems we were lucky to get to the semi's. A truly world class team doesn't need a last minute goal to beat belgium, or two penaltys to beat cameroon.

And euro 96 i can't really comment on again, but from what i can tell we only played really well once, against holland. And we were at home too.[/b]

Absolutely spot-on there David

I seem to remember we looked pretty handy against the sweaties too.............................

[adje]

....but had to thank a terrible penalty by Gary McAllister(?)

[DV]

Untill England stop playing the 'european' style and start playing the 'Premiership' style we'll never do anything.

Look at the pace and tempo the Premiership teams play with when they need a goal. Look are the pure pace in the Aston Villa team. Watch the way Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo run at players.

Yet, England pass it sideways for about 65 minutes of each game. Unless you're at least 3-0 up then you should be attacking after more goals, not passing it across your back line boring everyone to sleep.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Untill England stop playing the 'european' style and start playing the 'Premiership' style we'll never do anything.

Look at the pace and tempo the Premiership teams play with when they need a goal. Look are the pure pace in the Aston Villa team. Watch the way Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo run at players.

Yet, England pass it sideways for about 65 minutes of each game. Unless you're at least 3-0 up then you should be attacking after more goals, not passing it across your back line boring everyone to sleep.

No long balls though. That was good to see  

[Simon Pieman]

But we won...

[Samdy Gray]

It's a good start at least.

[tans]

I didnt watch it. Did everyone observe the minutes silence for the Munich anniversary? Bet some twats didnt.

[Barry Scott]

I wasn't unimpressed.

I've been angry with England for a few years now, and i'm giving it a chance. Like DV said, I also don't like the Euro football style, it's not playing to our strengths, however, Capello knows a thing or 2 and i'll be willing to overlook boring football in place of victory.

I was actually pleased with our game. It's a start.

[axs]

I didnt watch it. Did everyone observe the minutes silence for the Munich anniversary? Bet some twats didnt.

I forgot to turn it on until five past 8, but I was on my own so I wasn't talking anyway.

[flammableBen]

Untill England stop playing the 'european' style and start playing the 'Premiership' style we'll never do anything.

Look at the pace and tempo the Premiership teams play with when they need a goal. Look are the pure pace in the Aston Villa team. Watch the way Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo run at players.

Yet, England pass it sideways for about 65 minutes of each game. Unless you're at least 3-0 up then you should be attacking after more goals, not passing it across your back line boring everyone to sleep.

I semi-agree with you DV (which is a bit of a change). I don't think it's a case of us playing a European style though, I think it's just a lack of any urgency in the side. I agree that getting players running at people, having the defensive midfielders coming in to sweep up clearences etc is the way to go, but not doing that doesn't equal European style. In our case it's just been not really giving a shit.

I watched todays game and enjoyed it in bits. Joe Cole was good, although he tended to be one of the highlights when everybody else was being shit anyway.

Rooney had a good 20mins spell, but he's not a one man show, however much we want him to be. His good bit's coincided with decent balls from the midfield. Which seemed to always come from Bentley and Cole.

Jenas seemed to be a bit of a vanishing appearing player. He popped up in bits but wasn't exactly a presence.

Or something. I don't like trying to talk football about the national side. I tend to disagree with people.