Fred Elliot
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« Reply #75 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 08:52:15 » |
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That's the guy Jim
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Gazza's Fat Mate
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« Reply #76 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 12:59:43 » |
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build a bonfire build a bonfire put the stewards on the top put moorhouse in the middle and we'll burn the fucking lot!
This is only a joke mr moorhouse and I mean no harm.
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 13:01:36 » |
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whats dv's favourite ever left winger got to do with it. do you mean moorehouse 
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Things get better but they never get good
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Power to people
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:50:10 » |
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Can I offer a bit of advice ?
Wait for your letter confirming your potential ban, Go to the meeting on Sat, let them have their say, have your say and if they insist on banning you insist on talking to Nick Watkins the New CE to discuss this with him and explain the situation to him.
I would suggest though that they have no authority to 'ban' you, as surely as this was not at the CG this would have to have been dealt with by the police / courts for you to be banned from other grounds i.e the CG, as it was you was refused entry you did not cause trouble and left of your own accord so not sure what 'evidence' they may have.
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« Reply #79 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 16:44:47 » |
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the football ground is private property they can ban who ever they want. no-one has an right of entry to anywhere apart from maybe the house of parliment. If a pub can refuse you entry without reson do not not think a football club can do the same? everyone asussume they have the rght to do everything when in fact you have very little rights.
if they wanted to be asrey they can ban everyone who wore a grey top!! think yourself lucky that they are giving the chap a chance to see why he has been banned and to give his side of the story.
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janaage
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« Reply #80 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 17:01:59 » |
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Have I a right to go into my house, if I am the sole owner of that aforementioned property?
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Samdy Gray
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« Reply #81 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 18:23:27 » |
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the football ground is private property they can ban who ever they want. no-one has an right of entry to anywhere apart from maybe the house of parliment. If a pub can refuse you entry without reson do not not think a football club can do the same? everyone asussume they have the rght to do everything when in fact you have very little rights.
if they wanted to be asrey they can ban everyone who wore a grey top!! think yourself lucky that they are giving the chap a chance to see why he has been banned and to give his side of the story. Oooh, get you with the "I deal with insurance claims so I think I'm the best lawyer in the world" attitude. Fucking do one Graham.
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DV
Has also heard this
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« Reply #82 on: Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 18:25:01 » |
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whats dv's favourite ever left winger got to do with it. do you mean moorehouse  Walters was much better than Monkhouse 
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Bushey Boy
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« Reply #83 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 09:41:03 » |
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He does have a point, the club can ban who they want right or wrong
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RobertT
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« Reply #84 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 09:47:06 » |
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He does have a point, the club can ban who they want right or wrong Quite true, but I doubt the "club" has much knowledge of what the "safety" guys are up to half the time, they certainly had little knowledge in the past when questioned about Stewards behaviour and instructions. Ask to see the new CE, he's just said he wants to create the Swindon Experience, I doubt that involves being refused entry unless absolutely necessary.
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #85 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 10:02:20 » |
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Well I think if there is a ban then the reason needs to be properly established. If it was for persistantly trying to get into the ground whilst having had a few then I think the ban is totally unfair. I can't think why else they would make a ban though, other than kicking up a stink about the incident afterward.
Perhaps they have found your (Fred's) behaviour threatening after the initial incident and perhaps see you as a safety risk (I know that to not be the case but some of the posts were quite vitriolic).
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Bushey Boy
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« Reply #86 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 10:07:00 » |
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Hence the rightly or wrongly
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janaage
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« Reply #87 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 10:07:00 » |
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vitriolic - If I knew what that meant then I'd probably agree!
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Ardiles
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« Reply #88 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 11:04:19 » |
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Unfortunately, whether this Moorehouse person is running a vendetta or not, anyone who has form for trying to get in to a football ground while being leathered is going to have a difficult time arguing their case.
Lots of us have a drink or two before games - but if you're visibly the worse for wear when trying to gain entry to the ground (ie a little unsteady on your feet and slurring while talking) I can understand the security staff having reservations about allowing entry.
I'm not saying that Fred was in this state. (I don't even know the man.) But if he was, the security staff would simply argue that the person trying to gain entry was sufficiently intoxicated to be a threat to other supporters...and it would be very difficult to argue a case against this.
I don't know the full facts of the case and I'm not trying to dish out advice - other than to say you should probably tread carefully.
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« Reply #89 on: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 11:13:19 » |
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Ardiles, not allowing a drunk person into a ground may be understandable and I don't really think that is being debated here.
It is Fred's banning that seems WRONG!!!
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