The cunts that killed Jamie Bulger

[Samdy Gray]

Not in my book Ben.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

I want to buy Ben this Tshirt for Christmas
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/Jamiesfuturewife/Lady20Di20both20prod2.jpg

Back on topic - Was there not a Programme on channel four the other night called Boy A which was roughly based on the idea of kids that has committed a horrid crime then had new identitys etc? did anyone watch it? It looked good but I missed it

[yeo]

Yes I watched it,well most of it.It made me sad  certainly made me think about these situations differently.

[Arriba]

very difficult one this.
the case asks so many questions.
how two 10 year olds could do what they did to the toddler beggars belief.
and the flaws in our juditial system are endless.
nothing will cure the hatred and hurt that bulgers family will feel.
basically i dont think there is a right or wrong answer to issues like this.
its by no means cut and dried in any way.

[tans]

I saw that JFW, i though it was quite good. He even got his leg over than the bird found out. His councellors son nicked the councilors laptop and grassed him up to the press.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

I knew you would have watched it Yoevs

Your like the TE version of Richard Arnold!  

[Foggy]

WTF Sam and Barry? Justice shouldn't be about revenge, it should be a deterrent and rehabilitation. The lads in question were two fucked up 10 year olds at the time. They should be aloud a second chance at life. Whatever the fucking Sun says.

Ben, Is there any eveidence to say that they were fucked up? What they did was fucking terrible and they will never be rehabilitated in my eyes.

[DMR]

Foggy - the fact that they will never be rehabilitated is indicative of just how useless our judicial system is, surely?

These were children themselves and if locking them away for years has served absolutely no purpose other than to leave them festering in a cell then there's something very wrong with this country.

[Barry Scott]

Also, i find it more than a little amusing that it's assumed they have been rehabilitated.

Making those 2 very fucked up kids do time, in amongst other troubled youngsters, at such an impressionable age, means they will have come out worse than they went in.

I don't believe in capital punishment and also don't believe in these youngsters being killed in revenge, however. Any crime of this nature, especially involving children, is despicable and if someone chooses to take revenge, i'd certainly ind myself feeling very happy.

WTF?

You're against capital punishment but you hope someone finds these 2 guys and does them over - then why not just have it done in a sterile state-induced manner?

Those 2 comments don't stack up at all mate, it's the same thing. Whether it's a doctor with a needle or a nutjob with a baseball bat.

You've got the wrong end of the stick mate. I didn't say "hope" anywhere. I don't hope they get killed, or anything of that nature.

What i'm saying is that although i disagree with them being killed by the state and, feel revenge isn't great, deep down i think i'd smile should someone take revenge.

I know it's a slight contradiction, but it's like when sturrock left, i didn't really care, but deep down i did find myself happy at his first loss.

[flammableBen]

They've been out for over 6 years without any apparent incident, which shows to me that it was ok to release them. I'm strongly against punishment just for some sort of media hyped blood lust.

[Foggy]

Fair point Dave, But what evidence is there to prove that they were fucked up? I do agree that putting them in a YOI has served no purpose what so ever but what are the alteratives?

[neville w]

I'd sign the petition to kill princess diana in a car crash.

Thankyou your Royal Highness

[flammableBen]

The evidence that they were fucked up is what they did.

[Barry Scott]

They've been out for over 6 years without any apparent incident, which shows to me that it was ok to release them. I'm strongly against punishment just for some sort of media hyped blood lust.

I am too, it's one of the many reasons why i hate the press.

I just feel empathy for the parents. Those 2 boys are clearly very fucked up. I hope they learned from their atrocities, which it appears they have.

The world can be an unfair place, without making it worse with capital punishment and justifiable revenge.

[neville w]

The fundamental flaw with capital punishment is that innocent people get executed by the state as often as rapists and murderers. I'd be very uneasy living in a country that has that.

Have you got any statistics to back that up ?  If you said "could" get executed I'd be more inclined to agree