David Byrne for Manager?

[sonic youth]

so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available?

and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats?

it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit.

i hated the cunt when he got the job. he was nothing more than a big mouthed wide boy football manager wannabe. the first few performances under byrne were woeful and should not be ignored simply because we're now undefeated in four. the team and tactics he fielded for that brighton game alone defy all logic and reason.

since fitton took control and some key players have returned, results have improved as well. byrne has also begun to learn from his mistakes and has returned to the obvious formula (i.e. sturrock's) and adapted it to play to our strengths. we've done well, he's motivated the team well and he's obviously very passionate and determined to succeed. for that he deserves credit.

my biggest concern is that when we were missing key players, he appeared clueless and seriously short on ideas. what happens if we get into a bad run with our key players available? he doesn't appear to have much to fall back on. whilst he's got bags of coaching experience, managing a youth side where results aren't scrutinised by 6,500 people every week and the pressure is minimal as results aren't hugely important must be incredibly different to managing a senior side.

as others have said, he lacks experience of the day-to-day football management. does he have contacts in the game? does he have long-term plans for the club? does he have an eye for a player? what sort of football would a side comprised of byrne signings play?

this is a new era at STFC and i think we need a new manager with experience, knowledge and talent to take us forward - i genuinely don't think byrne fits that criteria. he is very much in the mould of a martin allen; loud, brash and "passionate".

[STFC4LIFE]

He did bring Tozer in........

[glos_robin]

I see your point Gaz I do, but at the same time experienced managers have the edge on transfer know how and having seen it done it and got the T shirt so it works both ways.

The telling stat for me is that since Iffy we've gone for relatively high profile managers and although both left they have done a good job and brought success.

I think our players are a genuine group of lads and play for eachother not specifically the manager so that wouldn't worry me as we've got some experienced pro's in that team and most have done it all before.....stagnation is much bigger risk than getting derailed IMO

[Arriba]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

The answer is simply no. What Sonic said pretty much sums it up for me tbh.

[STFC_Gazzza]

Everyone has an opinion. I wouldn't slate any manager, as anyone who comes in WANTS the job, he wants to be at Swindon.

Right now I feel If its not broken don't fix it etc. and where we failed before hiring internally, We can't say Byrne has been a failure. I would ditch Williams and maybe hire an experienced assistant though. This would perhaps make up for some of the shortfalls in other areas.

Perhaps a precident (sp) has been set now as the last 2 managers have been high profile.

I can see other peoples opinions too. As I said, I am so glad we can all debate football now instead of boardroom issues!  

[sonic youth]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.

he doesn't know how to be a football manager.

[Arriba]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.

he doesn't know how to be a football manager.

maybe?maybe not?
its not a cut and dried issue is it?

[neville w]

Having never been a manager or coach, It seems to me that his "micro management" style of constantly shouting and arm waving may be more suited to a youth team environment where there is a lack of on field flexibilty and experience.

He's also publicly criticised players after defeats - good managers don't do that.

[glos_robin]

Having never been a manager or coach, It seems to me that his "micro management" style of constantly shouting and arm waving may be more suited to a youth team environment where there is a lack of on field flexibilty and experience.

He's also publicly criticised players after defeats - good managers don't do that.

Andy King used to do that to Ifil every week and never did him any harm........oh actually Jerel has gone from a nervous wreck to our best player since King left.

[sonic youth]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.

he doesn't know how to be a football manager.

maybe?maybe not?
its not a cut and dried issue is it?

mate, i just wrote a long-winded post explaining my thoughts fully - if you can't be bothered reading that then fair enough but don't try and pick an argument by stating the obvious and asking rhetorical questions.

[Spud]

He's done ok but i'd still sooner see someone with proper managerial experience come in.

[Arriba]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.

he doesn't know how to be a football manager.

maybe?maybe not?
its not a cut and dried issue is it?

mate, i just wrote a long-winded post explaining my thoughts fully - if you can't be bothered reading that then fair enough but don't try and pick an argument by stating the obvious and asking rhetorical questions.

i read it sonic.and i aint picking fuck all, i'm giving an opinion and asking questions.nothing more.just because my opinion differs, dont come the high and mighty.are you now the judge and jury on everything?
and what makes you right?how do you know he doesn't know how to be a manager?you have an opinion on it but it doesn't necesarily make it right.you've given your take on byrne above so we all must pander to the great sonic youth eh?and not say anything different to the high and mighty one?
unless byrne is given the job we wont know will we?

[DV]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

no Mourinho is....

[Arriba]

byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?

no Mourinho is....

and i'd love it if he was our boss.imagine it.the mind boggles
happy new year by the way dv.