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« Reply #105 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:59:27 » |
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Byrne seems to have been given the responsibility of "Chatting" with clubs in regards to new signing's also. It appears as though all are warming to him, maybe Fitton included.
Still, 4 good results is not enough to judge on is it? (Or should that be 4 good and 3 disgraceful)
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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:01:26 » |
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so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available?
and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats?
it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit. If DV has given him credit then anyone can. I think he is doing a cracking job. I'm not even worried about the whole manager thing now. It is great to debate this though than the politcal bollocks! LOVE IT! |
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« Reply #107 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:09:42 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league.
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« Reply #108 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:51:10 » |
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he is not the long term solution.
He won't get us out of this league. Taking those points in order. Why? and Why? |
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« Reply #109 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:54:40 » |
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i'm undecided about it.but if its him give it to him now and end this joint thing with adi.one thing that concerns me with byrne is that he goes mental at players for stuff, and that in time could cause problems in the dressing room.he's upset zaboob today and was going mental at various players today.
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« Reply #110 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:00:55 » |
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i'm undecided about it.but if its him give it to him now and end this joint thing with adi.one thing that concerns me with byrne is that he goes mental at players for stuff, and that in time could cause problems in the dressing room.he's upset zaboob today and was going mental at various players today. Agreed, the way he solely blames the players when we lose wouldn't wear well over a long period. I think it is possible to be too passionate and it can cause big problems as it can cloud your judgement |
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« Reply #111 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:02:17 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. |
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« Reply #112 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:07:08 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. |
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« Reply #113 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:08:51 » |
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he is not the long term solution.
He won't get us out of this league. Taking those points in order. Why? and Why? Don't think he'll be able to sustain this good form for long. If he proves me wrong then good for him. |
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« Reply #114 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:16:18 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. |
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« Reply #115 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:17:53 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. Again true but is this little spurt in form only because of the feel good factor with the takeover and players returning from injury? I think it is. |
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« Reply #116 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:20:17 » |
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NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. Again true but is this little spurt in form only because of the feel good factor with the takeover and players returning from injury? I think it is. And when a new manager comes in your normally have a spurt of good form? Would it last? |
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« Reply #117 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:32:52 » |
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No offence Gazza but you seem to come accross as abit naive at times as your whole hearted support for Byrne seems to be mostly down to him being passionate and saying happy new year to supporters. It take alot more than that to be a good manager and he should have to do interviews for the job like everyone else and be judged on more than the last 4 games. If he is on a short list along with names such as Ling & Cotterill (and presuming they are interested) he should get no where near the job as he doesn't stack up in comparison to them as he is an unknown quantity.
Byrne needs time as a first team coach and an assistant manager for a few years. He needs to work his way up the ladder as up until now his coaching has been limited to youth players which is a completely different kettle of fish.
He's done a good job holding the fort but that should be all he is doing, keeping things ticking over for a new guy to take the reigns.
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« Reply #118 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:41:01 » |
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to be fair every manager has to start somewhere.and look at the success the rookie managers have had here.
byrne is nothing like iffy as he wont be all pally pally with the players.
gazza the big ron thing about iffy is a load of bollocks too.big rons input was virtually nil.i think it did more harm than good.
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« Reply #119 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:46:11 » |
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I've not said anything about he should get the job because he said happy New year. I mearly mentioned the fact he had time for fans this morning. Saying happy new year and waving your dick about doesnt win football matches.
My support comes from the fact that we have done well recently against teams you would expect to lose to i.e. Swansea or Yeovil. The players seem as if they want to play under him and everyone is on a high in confidence right now.
Managers need to start somewhere.
If Ling or Cotterill come in then fair enough I wouldn't complain however we start from scractch again and it could de-rail what is happening now.
I think people are giving all the credit to say Peacock or other players that were out as opposed to the person that picks the team. It is a group effort. Everyone is looking in the same direction right now and things are going well.
It is inevitable what will happen.
IF WE DO WELL: Its because of the players
WHEN WE LOSE A GAME: Everyone will say Oh the managers shite he is useless etc. No fault will be put on the players.
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