David Byrne for Manager?

[glos_robin]

I agree with OST. Give Byrne until the end of the season. He is not doing bad. We are not going down and we have a guy that isn't doing bad. I don't think Ady should stay as his assistant though.

I think ANY manager would have struggled with the embargo/suspensions/injuries etc.

As others have said though we are probably safe so it gives the opportunity for a new manager to come in assess the current squad and start putting their stamp on things. And Byrne would bring in players so could prove a bit of a waste of money if come the summer the new manager isn't interested in them. Now is the perfect time for a new manager so lets not waste time and money ....if Fitton wants Championship football within 3 years we need to start getting things together now and the managerial position should be one be one of the first areas to be addressed.

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

I think he is doing well, but as I said elsewhere it is with Sturrocks squad.

We minimise risk by appointing from outside IMHO.

Then again, if the alternative was Denis Smith, I'd take Byrne!

It's hardly Byrne's fault that it's Sturrock's squad it it? You can say that about whoever gets the job.

As for minimising the risk by appointing by from outside, I would say the opposite is true. If you appoint Byrne, you are appointing some one who you know for a fact can get the best out of the players at his disposal. That doesn't seem very risky to me.

As for Dennis Smith.............. :?  I think that's something we can all agree on.

[STFC_Gazzza]

Where we have always gone for the cheap option and promote from within, This time I AM CONVINCED it would be a good thing. Byrne has managed to take a team that was in turmoil (Swindon 0 Brighton 3) and motivate them to give a ball busting performance today. These players obviously respect Byrne and will play for him.

GIVE BYRNE A CHANCE! He hasn't done anything to convince me he shouldn't get the job.

[glos_robin]

Sturrock assembled a reasonably good team and Byrne has ran with it........the upturn in fortune is obviously 100% Byrne and nothing to do with Ifil, Aljofree, Peacock and Corr returning to the team  :-))(

In his career Byrne has never signed a player, never bought in a player on loan and never done the 101 other things that are associated with being manager of a football club. On that basis alone Byrne would be a huge risk  (what if his contacts only extend as far as Plymouth for exmaple no one knows). OK you needa chance to prove whether you sink or swim but I'd rather not risk seeing him sink here. Maybe Byrne could be a good manager but Fitton is a businessman and in business sentiment counts for nothing this is why I remain convinced he will steer well clear of Byrne

[STFC_Gazzza]

True yes Peacock, Ifil, Aljofree, Corr etc returning to the team did help. I did state that any manager would have struggled with the injuries/suspensions etc.

That said, Byrne still needs to motive that team and put out the best team. If a player doesnt want to play for you they wont perform. He seems passionate about it and he again needs to sort the team out and tactics.

All managers need to start somewhere. Byrne may have more contacts through Sturrock and perhaps even Fitton, Williams etc at the club....

[Bogus Dave]

the fact that in the past few games we've only started performing in the second half of games is a bit worrying. if he was such a good motivator we'd be coming out raring right at the start

[blinkpip]

I wouldn't mind Mr Byrne given a chance. After todays tatics, he was spot on.

His only fault to me, was the team he fielded against Brighton  :?

[glos_robin]

True yes Peacock, Ifil, Aljofree, Corr etc returning to the team did help. I did state that any manager would have struggled with the injuries/suspensions etc.

That said, Byrne still needs to motive that team and put out the best team. If a player doesnt want to play for you they wont perform. He seems passionate about it and he again needs to sort the team out and tactics.

All managers need to start somewhere. Byrne may have more contacts through Sturrock and perhaps even Fitton, Williams etc at the club....

And again it comes down to we don't know therefore making him a huge gamble. Under Iffy if you remember we had a spell where results improved and we moved away from the relegation zone but look what happened there. Experience tells me that to base an appointment decision on 7 or 8 matches is meaningless lets be honest with all players being Sturrocks his impact in the grand scheme of things is minimal.
He should be compared to every other candidate that has applied and past historys compared etc. STFC is to be ran like a business (as Fitton keeps saying) and that is how recruitment works. Against any manager with say Championship experience recently Byrne loses end of story.

[Power to people]

Byrne would be slight risk imo he is inexperienced as a manager, he showed at the start that he was unable to get the best out of the "reserve" players, but when the first team comes back suddenly they start winning, becasue they are a good bunch of players who play well for each other yes ok he obviously has a part to play but we all know this team is good enough for this division and on their day, possibly with you or I managing them would put on a good performance, but over a longer period of time the cracks would emerge as the inexperience would show through.

The key to a manager a good manager is how he handles things when the going get's tough, the players he brings in, the tactics he employs, his ability to improve the players at his disposal through coaching on the training pitch, his man managment.

I would like to see an experienced manager brought in so then it is not seen as such a risk as he would have seen it and done it before.

[glos_robin]

Byrne would be slight risk imo he is inexperienced as a manager, he showed at the start that he was unable to get the best out of the "reserve" players, but when the first team comes back suddenly they start winning, becasue they are a good bunch of players who play well for each other yes ok he obviously has a part to play but we all know this team is good enough for this division and on their day, possibly with you or I managing them would put on a good performance, but over a longer period of time the cracks would emerge as the inexperience would show through.

The key to a manager a good manager is how he handles things when the going get's tough, the players he brings in, the tactics he employs, his ability to improve the players at his disposal through coaching on the training pitch, his man managment.

I would like to see an experienced manager brought in so then it is not seen as such a risk as he would have seen it and done it before.

spot on  :goodpost:

[lebowski]

so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available?

and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats?

it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit.

[Bushey Boy]

so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available?

and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats?

it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit.

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Spot On

[glos_robin]

Byrne was largely to blame for the Brighton fiasco though...

If we lose on Saturday everyone will saying Byrne is not the man for the job as thats the fickle world of football. At present my opinion is he is not the man for the job and I'm sticking with that, I see too many similarities to when Iffy was in charge where he temporarily turned around the fortunes of a club in turmoil only to ultimately fail ..........only diference being with Iffy it was players he brought in improved results.

Byrne has a lot to prove if he gets the job I will be happy to get proved wrong but I don't think he will become manager and he definately should not be top of any list for STFC's next manager.

[fatbury]

I have to say

and i never thought Id say this

Byrne is doing a bloody good job .. the players seem to respond to him .. and we are playing better football

I wouldnt rush to get a new manager yet .. lets take our time and appoint one when things are looking a bit worse ...

All we need to do tho is make sure we sign Cox and keep Brez .. as long as that happens .. we stay in this division (or go up ) then Ill be happy for this season

[JOHNNY REEVES]

get back to the youths mr byrne we,re on a good cup run.