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« Reply #75 on: Thursday, December 6, 2007, 09:19:49 » |
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Dave Byrne hasn't done wonders for the youths he inherited a very good collective of youngsters. Credit should be given to the guy who signed Macklin, Lukas, Chris Allen etc, not some bloke who turns up and can't believe his luck. wonders no. but he's done pretty well with them. he has brought a few in himself(tozer most notibally) lucas came from southampton.macklin and allen through the cofe.so none of the youth managers past and present have done it all themselves.that said no way should byrne be given the managers job full time. but i think if there's no takeover then dont be surprised if he gets it. We still had to sign (and keep on) Macklin, Allen and Lukas, you don't just turn up and bingo!! You have to do a lot of work to convince a youngster (and their family) that they should sign up on the Swindon books. Byrne wasn't in charge of the youths when we won the Milk Cup in Northern Ireland, all I'm saying is he inherited a pretty decent team. As for Tozer, I'd imagine Sturrock had a lot to do with that lad signing for us.
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« Reply #76 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:20:36 » |
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I will repeat. I would not mind having David Byrne as manager, We are doing alright under him, Would be gutted for the guy if he is getting results then is told to fuck off.
Met the guy today outside the ground and he came over to every fan outside and shook everyones hand and said happy new year to everyone.
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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:25:09 » |
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i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager.
i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned.
nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today.
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:25:42 » |
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I will repeat. I would not mind having David Byrne as manager, We are doing alright under him, Would be gutted for the guy if he is getting results then is told to fuck off.
Met the guy today outside the ground and he came over to every fan outside and shook everyones hand and said happy new year to everyone. Nothing to do with trying to get fans on side to support his bid to take charge. He is not the experienced head we need and this is still 100% Sturrocks team. Neither him or Williams have any experience of wheeling and dealing players so he is a unacceptable risk. As Fitton seemed to say to day he may be a good coach but he has zero experience being a manager (as they have responsibility for the entire football set-up and he's never even got close to doing that.)
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« Reply #79 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:27:13 » |
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i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager.
i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned.
nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Listening to Aljofree on the radio I think that was his (aljofrees) decision not Byrnes!!!
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« Reply #80 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:35:35 » |
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i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager.
i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned.
nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Can;t beleive that I'm saying this but I'm with you SY. His passion is clearly there and his half time talk was obviously quite effective.
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« Reply #81 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:37:28 » |
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i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager.
i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned.
nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Listening to Aljofree on the radio I think that was his (aljofrees) decision not Byrnes!!! haha fair enough. it was all rather andy king-esque though!
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« Reply #82 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:41:52 » |
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I think they should give him until the end of the season and see how he does. Realistically, we're not going down. Similarly, we have a resonable chance of making the play offs. If we don't do it though, it's not a disaster.
The way the team are performing for Byrne and Williams, I don't see any reason to rush into appointing a manager from outside.
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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:46:25 » |
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No thank you, I cannot fault the effort that his team puts in put his tactics are shite
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« Reply #84 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:49:51 » |
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I think he is doing well, but as I said elsewhere it is with Sturrocks squad.
We minimise risk by appointing from outside IMHO. His ability to progress the squad and attract players is an unknown. It's that simple, he has no experience.
Then again, if the alternative was Denis Smith, I'd take Byrne!
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« Reply #85 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:51:11 » |
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his tactics are shite please explain how he got his tactics wrong today?
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« Reply #86 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:57:50 » |
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I think they should give him until the end of the season and see how he does. Realistically, we're not going down. Similarly, we have a resonable chance of making the play offs. If we don't do it though, it's not a disaster.
The way the team are performing for Byrne and Williams, I don't see any reason to rush into appointing a manager from outside. I see what you mean but no, this season surely is not about promotion (Which would be a bonus), but rather consolidation and allowing whatever manager to build for next season. The thing for me also is that Byrne has done well since the takeover, but when the chips where down (No Pre-takeover), he didn't perform.
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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:03:06 » |
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I've slated him in the past, but thought he got the tactics spot on today.
The move to go from 4-4-1 to 4-3-2 after 30 minutes and only 10 of being down to 10 men I thought was suicide and a stupid decision at the time but it worked.
How often do you see teams go down to 10 and shut up shop for the 0-0 with everyone behind the ball. We didnt do that and it surprised me....but it worked.
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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:05:26 » |
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I agree with OST. Give Byrne until the end of the season. He is not doing bad. We are not going down and we have a guy that isn't doing bad. I don't think Ady should stay as his assistant though.
I think ANY manager would have struggled with the embargo/suspensions/injuries etc.
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:08:44 » |
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The thing for me also is that Byrne has done well since the takeover, but when the chips where down (No Pre-takeover), he didn't perform.
The other side of that coin of course is that after three consecutive defeats, he did brilliantly to turn things around. No one will ever know how another manager would have done during those three games. The club was in such utter turmoil (I'm not saying were completely out of the woods yet) any manager would have found it tough - even Sturrock. I just think you can't over-emphasize the importance of the willingness of the players to play for a manager. These players have shown that they are prepared to run through brick walls for this manager. To me, that counts massively in the guy's favour.
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