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« on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:24:33 »

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Wise tells Sturrock to stop moaning
By Gareth Moorhouse

FORMER Town chief Dennis Wise has urged Paul Sturrock to stop moaning about the transfer embargo, insisting the current Swindon squad is strong enough to mount a successful League One challenge.

After masterminding his Leeds United team to a 2-1 victory over his old club at Elland Road on Saturday, Wise was anything but sympathetic for his successor at the County Ground.

The former England and Chelsea midfielder has steered Leeds from rock-bottom on minus 15 points to an incredible fourth in just four months - a grade A lesson in how to overcome adversity.

With Swindon facing the prospect of an empty Christmas stocking on the player front, Wise seemed more than happy to play the role of Scrooge.

He said: "Paul, please stop crying. We've all had that situation, it's how you deal with that situation that matters.

"At the present moment he can't do anything and I know how frustrated he is, but get on with it.

"He's got some decent players. I know there's more he wants to bring in but he has got some players that caused us problems today.

"I'm sure they'll do very well in this league."

The Leeds chief also had a dig at his opposite number about some of the pre-match verbal sparring before the match.

Sturrock was quoted in The Sun on Saturday as saying that, with the right resources, Town "could be as big as Leeds - even bigger.'' Wise retorted: "I read somewhere this week, Paul Sturrock had said that Swindon were a bigger club than Leeds. I think Paul must have been drinking, bless him.'' Sturrock however, was more concerned with clinging to the hope that prospective buyer Andrew Fitton will settle the club's outstanding £900,000 CVA before the loan window closes on November 22.

But with the takeover not due to be completed until November 26 at the earliest, he knows he could be clutching at straws.

He said: "Cap in hand I will go to the new owners and the current owners to see if I can come to some agreement where the CVA - which is the stumbling block - gets paid enabling us to bolster the squad.

"The CVA is going to have to be paid by somebody some time, either by the current owners or the new owners when they come in.

"I'm just trying to get one of them to pay it as quickly as possible. I'm sure there's ways of negotiations between the two which will enable us to get the help the players need.

"We are screaming out for a bit of help with the loan system. People are carrying injuries. They deserve an opportunity to have a rest, to be taken out and to get themselves fit.

"We can't afford to have these people playing on injuries and being out for the whole season."

With no fewer than nine fixtures between the closure of the loan window and January 1, Sturrock admits his squad face an uphill struggle to remain competitive.

After seven players picked up bookings, suspensions will come into play as well.

He said: "The embargo is not helping. It's causing us a lot of concern at a difficult time of the season. We need to bring two or three people in, not just loans but from January 1, people who will be long-term members of the football club.

"Managers at other clubs realise we're in a desperate situation and the bargaining power goes to them, but I do feel that the players deserve these personnel to come in.

"Also, the wages need paying which plays on people's minds because they have mortgages to pay.

"We had a takeover before which kept us in limbo land. Now this one is dragging on again, but the players have worked so hard to get into this position.

"I would be gutted for everybody involved in Swindon if, due to the circumstances we're in, we go tumbling down the league."
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« Reply #1 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:36:28 »

A lot of my last dregs of respect for Wise went with these comments, hes a tit.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:37:07 »

To an extent I can see what Wise is saying. You have to deal with it no point crying about it and all that as its not going to change things. The only way this can change is to pay the CVA and even if we get taken over I cant see the CVA being paid bang on the day the ink settles on the contract. It will effect the team (even more so as I am sure it already is) if he keeps harping on about it. Wise is a cock though.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:40:08 »

You mean like how Wise thre his toys out of the pram when the majority of clubs agreed to dock them the 15 points.

The pot has truly called the kettle black.
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« Reply #4 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:41:58 »

While I don't agree with a fellow Manager having a bit of a swipe, and considering Leeds' constant whining about the 15 points (even if I can understand that from a fans perspective as well), I do wish Sturrock would shut up about it.  If he wants to have a whinge about not being able to buy players then he need look no further than the Boardroom.  It's through the Exec lounge and past the kitchen Paul.  It's why clubs get a penalty for going into a CVA these days, or Admin etc, to avoid clubs who can't afford it from buying up players.  If the CVA had been paid last summer when a big cash influx occured, then we'd be in the market right now.  He really does seem to have been completely oblivious to the state our club was in.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:44:26 »

Wise telling someone to stop moaning, fucking priceless!  

I think I agree with everyone... He's a cock.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:47:18 »

I agree with Wisey, if Sturrock wants to moan about the situation go and have a moan at these wonderful people that are currently running our club so well, as he keeps on telling us.  Or is the embargo in place due to supporters protesting against the current board.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:51:35 »

nasty little twerp.one of the type who thinks hes a superstar and the rest of us are peasants. totaly ignorent prat with no sence of decency its easy for him to tell sturrock to shut up after winning a game in which they were gifted a penalty and had 90% of dubious decisions go their way. would he be so chopsy if we were talking about a draw which we deserved at least. giving it large saying teams like us will come up here raise their game and shut up shop. leeds are in div 1 deservedly and got very lucky saturday but i doubt he will pass comment on that.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:58:09 »

The irony being Wise is serving a 3 match touchline ban for "using abusive and/or insulting words towards referee Danny McDermid ". Coupled with the massive chip Leeds have regarding the -1 points (read their program) it is complete hypocricy.

On Sturrock - yes we have a fair and just emargo placed on us. I'm not sure what good whining about it to the press does, maybe he was simply letting off a bit of steam when asked the question.

Personally I can't see why Fitton would bail us out until he is 100% bone fide new owner. An 11th hour hitch and how would he get his money back? And if the current board can afford 900K why haven't they paid it? I'm afraid we are stuck with what we have until January. It's not like they aren't capable in this league so it isn' t all bad.
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« Reply #9 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 10:59:26 »

Devil's advocat time (as it's nearly Christmas Cheesy).

Bearing in mind that Wise had a transfer embargo in place up until the start of the season, AND then started with a 15 point deduction, I can sort of see his point.

Sturrock should bear in mind that he's got a fairly big squad for this division, and that he bought the overwhelming majority of the players in it. We signed a shit load of players in the summer.

If he's not got sufficient cover at the moment then the only people to blame are the Board for allowing the club to waste money we couldn't afford on the 3 amigos and Luggy himself for bringing in a couple of players in Blackburn and Mohamed that he clearly now feels aren't good enough.

Frankly we're fucking lucky we're still in business and even luckier that we've not had points deducted.

Transfer embargo. Meeeeeeh!
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« Reply #10 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 11:02:38 »

Sturrock needs to build the belief levels up of the current squad while quietly trying to influence the decision makers behind the scenes. This constant harping on about in public could have a negative effect on the existing players.

Perhaps he shouldn't have been so quick to stand by the people who have got him in this postion when the momentum for the protests was gaining.

Whilst I acknowledge we are weakened in a few areas it will be interesting to see how he copes as manager when he can't top up the squad, despite having a decent crop of fit players at his disposal already. It seems like only recently he was hoping to ship players out on loan.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 13:32:40 »

Whats gets me is people are talking about a mirracle happening with the position leeds have got, its not down to that pygmy cunt.

Leeds should not even be in this division, they are by far the best team in the division, so it shuoldnt really be a supprise, i could be in charge of em and do the same
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« Reply #12 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 13:37:09 »

I disagree with that entirely... They have a great squad yes, but I think under another manager they wouldn't have had the start they've had...
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 13:45:24 »

Quote from: "Tails"
I disagree with that entirely... They have a great squad yes, but I think under another manager they wouldn't have had the start they've had...

....like he did really well six months ago keeping them up didn't he?

I'm afraid that I am on the 'pygmy cunt' side of the fence.

What also gets me is how people think that 28000 attendances are amazing. 18 months ago, Leeds were on the verge of the Premiership. A few years ago, they were getting crowds approaching 40,000. Rather than pat themselves on the back for getting attendances of 28000, why aren't they asking where the missing 12-15000 supporters are? Yeah, well done Leeds, lose 30% of your gate and let's crow about how miraculous that the crowd is 28000.
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« Reply #14 on: Monday, November 19, 2007, 13:47:02 »

Anyone know what Man City's average attendance was the year they spent in Div 3?  just out of interest.
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