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TalkTalk

« Reply #45 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:46:11 »

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what happend to talk talk organising it?
what happend at the meeting with the police?

The Trust board is democratic and collectively makes decisions.

All I would say is that I am very unhappy with the decision to postpone the official pre-match protests but that if that is the will of the board then I support it.

I know it wasn't an easy choice to make but accept that there are valid reasons.

I will put my energies into being behind the Arkells on Saturday after the match.
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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:46:28 »

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We could have spun it this way of course ;

"STURROCK BACKS PROTESTS AFTER THE GAME!!!!"


I like it. You're thinking like Diamandis now.


You have to Colin

That would be fucking ace headline
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:47:45 »

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We could have spun it this way of course ;

"STURROCK BACKS PROTESTS AFTER THE GAME!!!!"


I like it. You're thinking like Diamandis now.


You have to Colin

That would be fucking ace headline


You have to Colin?
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:47:49 »

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Ha Ha that sounded so girly sam Cheesy


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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:49:22 »

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Quote from: "arriba"
what happend to talk talk organising it?
what happend at the meeting with the police?

The Trust board is democratic and collectively makes decisions.

All I would say is that I am very unhappy with the decision to postpone the official pre-match protests but that if that is the will of the board then I support it.

I know it wasn't an easy choice to make but accept that there are valid reasons.

I will put my energies into being behind the Arkells on Saturday after the match.


Fair play Al

You can organise it again for the Donny match once these mystery new investors have seen the books and done a runner like the rest of them.

I still feel 150% that this will happen and told the police that this afternoon
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:50:14 »

I reckon the magic roundabout occupation (not blocking), bannering up and generally congregation of unhappy and protesting souls could still go ahead without much pre planning and does not need any backing of any group.
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:50:21 »

and  i agree, donny should be the time for a march and i reckon it should become a fans united day.
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 15:50:29 »

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We could have spun it this way of course ;

"STURROCK BACKS PROTESTS AFTER THE GAME!!!!"


I like it. You're thinking like Diamandis now.


You have to Colin

That would be fucking ace headline


You have to Colin?


Your handle is Colin Todd ?

Or am I seriously retarded now ?
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 16:20:11 »

Bit dissapointed with the statement to be honest and fear it may have detrimental effect on protest numbers for the whole day....I hope I'm wrong but I fear this was the wrong decision.
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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 16:41:37 »

I'm very disappointed with this. The Trust were supposed to take that vote and act upon it. Now they've gone against it too. Sturrock has chosen to get involved, not the other way round. A before game protest is not directly in the face of him or the team, it's about generating awareness and exposure.

As I said before, the fact Sturrock hasn't tried to stop the after game protest suggests the club are worried about the exposure this is getting. Nobody else sees us round the back of the Arkells and forgive me for stereotyping a bit here, but the majority people leaving the Arkells don't strike me as people likely to protest.

The club have played their wild card and they think they've won the game. We  still need to do something pre-game around the MR and I'm sure others will. I certainly am.
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 16:43:26 »

i know the decisions been made and all that, and i aint trying to change it,
but i've been thinking.
 how will it be any different at the donny game.its still a pre match march and sturrock isn't suddenly gonna give it his blessing is he?
all its doing is delaying it a while :?

that said, it gives more time to organise i suppose
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 16:49:44 »

I think delaying the march isn't necessarily bad. Some people will be taken in by the statements and not turn up....if it's delayed when those people realise it's the same old story they will be back twice as angry.

My problem is the media will probably be putting a story out tomorrow saying the Trust have backed down.
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 16:52:45 »

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I'm very disappointed with this. The Trust were supposed to take that vote and act upon it. Now they've gone against it too. Sturrock has chosen to get involved, not the other way round. A before game protest is not directly in the face of him or the team, it's about generating awareness and exposure.

As I said before, the fact Sturrock hasn't tried to stop the after game protest suggests the club are worried about the exposure this is getting. Nobody else sees us round the back of the Arkells and forgive me for stereotyping a bit here, but the majority people leaving the Arkells don't strike me as people likely to protest.

The club have played their wild card and they think they've won the game. We  still need to do something pre-game around the MR and I'm sure others will. I certainly am.


You have pretty summed up all of what I feel on this, I am so frustrated by the stance the Trust have taken.  Just what was the point of Mondays meeting? 3 hours of talk / debate just to back protests behind the Arkells.  By disagreeing with protests before the game they will damage any numbers we could have got, we had so much momentum, this just does exactly what the board would want slows us down.

I am still up for anything before hand whether it be a march, a magic roundabout protest.  As I said I fear what this statement will do to support for the protest and support for the trust.
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Lumps

« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 17:00:32 »

Errrrrrm........won't the magic roundabout still be there after the game?
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sonic youth

« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 17:10:30 »

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go on then somene grab the fucking nettle. or are you all going to wait for someone else to do it?


don't lay the blame on the rest of us, yourself and alan took the 'nettle' from the off!

edit: let me rephrase that...

i think the majority of us probably didn't get involved because yourself, alan and others were taking the lead and in honesty the pair of you are the right sort of people to take that lead. i didn't foresee any possibility of the trust not backing these protests, so i'm quite surprised at the total u-turn you've all made.

now we're back to where we were before monday, lacking leadership and with nothing organised. i don't think it's fair for you or anyone else to blame others for not taking charge of the situation when some of us were unable to attend the meetings on monday and tuesday.

i'm frustrated and feel let down by the trust unwillingness to rock the boat. whatever sturrock has to say that does not refer to the football team is irrelevent in my eyes.
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