UPDATE ON PROTESTS

[janaage]

Yes it will, it would have raised the profile of the discontent, it would have got on the news, would have probably surprised people in Swindon not connected to the football club.

People see the "out the back of the arkells mob" as precisely that, a mob who stand shout abuse, sing abuse, and on the whole get ignored by the execs.  (rightly or wrongly).

Marches or the Magicroundabout idea would have been a decent alternative.

[Fred Elliot]

go on then somene grab the fucking nettle. or are you all going to wait for someone else to do it?

Exactly


We said to the police this afternoon that whilst we were not going to organise the march or the MR protest we could not guarantee that it would not happen

[Mexicano Rojo]

no idea, but this wasin direct response to sturrock asking people not to because it would affect the team. so do we carry on and get the flack if we get stuffed? or do we try and keep the majority of town fans onside? how do you think the apathy of swindon would be if the team gets thrashed when the manager has explicably asked fans to protest but after the game?

if someone wants to organise then good, i will be there, but i cant for a variety of reasons, namely the fact i live 125 miles away. but as stated before im not standing in the way of someone to be in the fireing line.

but think about it before doing it, because there is bound to be trouble at the protests and by leading them you would be the one having to face the music.

[OneAndrewFitton]

I've always backed the trust but on this occassion they have let us down badly, we still need to carry on without them and do everything we possible can! I know there's only 3 days to go but we cannot do nothing and let Diamandis think they have won!!

[Fred Elliot]

Sturrock will be issuing a statement asking just that.

We could have 6000 fans turn on us if we get dicked and Sturrock blames us in the post match interview

[STFC_Gazzza]

I can see why the Trust has backed down due to the prospect of new investment and a plea from Sturrock however marching to the ground away from the ground I cant see how this can have an adverse effect on the team if fans are behind the team during the game and not actually protesting outside the ground before the game.

Its a case of you can't win, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't really. You can't please everyone.

I'm sure Talk Talk wil be on soon and if I know him like I think I do, I think the march etc will still go on but without the Trust backing, which is not to say members of the trust board etc would not march as individuals.

[Mexicano Rojo]

gary its nothing to do with the new investment, as far as im concerned thats bollocks its totally down to the plea of sturrock.

[Fred Elliot]

gary its nothing to do with the new investment, as far as im concerned thats bollocks its totally down to the plea of sturrock.

It is TOTALLY down to Sturrocks plea

[pauld]

I've always backed the trust but on this occassion they have let us down badly, we still need to carry on without them and do everything we possible can! I know there's only 3 days to go but we cannot do nothing and let Diamandis think they have won!!

It's not a question of doing nothing - the protest after the game was always going to be the biggest and the one with the most impact. That's still going ahead and will I'm sure send a very clear message to the current regime. It's a question of taking some of the pressure off Sturrock - he made a direct appeal for no protests until after the game and on this occasion we think we owe him that.

I appreciate this was never going to be a popular decision and I know we're going to get slaughtered from some quarters for this. Fair enough. But I do have to get some work done this afternoon so I'm going to check back in later this evening and take the flak then if that's OK. Erm, even if it's not tbh I haven't got a lot of choice - I have to get this work finished!

[STFC_Gazzza]

gary its nothing to do with the new investment, as far as im concerned thats bollocks its totally down to the plea of sturrock.

fair enough.

[RobertT]

I don't think the Trust could continue to arrange a proper march (within very tight timescales) when they knew a public statement asking for it not to happen was going to come from the Manager of the team.

Like it or not, only the angry few on here would have carried it through once that happens, no chance of the apathetic and less millitant gang joining in.

That's not to say I don't think it's a good idea.  I'd still be up for pre match stuff regardless of what Sturrock says, and I think a fair few that were there on Monday will do what they want anyway - that being another potential problem for the Trust to have thought about.

What can you do, as an official organisation, when the best supported Manager in the clubs recent history pleas for it not ro press ahead.

[Fred Elliot]

We could have spun it this way of course ;

"STURROCK BACKS PROTESTS AFTER THE GAME!!!!"

[Arriba]

the trust are getting blamed for everything anyway.but i can see their reasons for calling stuff off.
there is no right or wrong answer imo.
as protests could go on for fuck knows how long a loss of form could get blamed on protests at any time.
i am baffled as to how a family march going on nowhere near the ground could cause a defeat or be seen as causing a loss of form?
where as a protest right outside the ground could be seen as intimidating players and staff could it not?

[STFC_Gazzza]

As I said, the march is taking place away from the ground and no protesting outside of the ground before the game would not affect the team however the stuff at the magic roundabout etc could perhaps have an adverse effect. But as stated it is up to someone to grab the bull by the horns so to speak and be prepared to take ownership.

[RobertT]

I would like to think this is just a stay of execution if you like and now with a bit mroe time available a proper march with full publicity aweek in advance can be organised.  I'd say it's fully justified for now, but not for the next game if we are still in the same boat.