Horray - someone else is taking legal action against us

[Panda Paws]

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.1764798.0.war_of_words.php

MYSTERY surrounds last night's breakdown of the Portuguese takeover as Town look ahead to a future with a potential new saviour.

County Ground officials insist the protracted negotiations with Best Holdings were finally ended due to the time being taken to conclude a deal.

A club statement has denied a provision in the original contract for a payment of £8million to major shareholders the Wills Family.

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But the Town hierarchy admitted last night the clause did exist as revealed by the Swindon Advertiser last week, although they insist it was submitted by BEST themselves and rejected by the club.

However, BEST front man Jim Little, pictured right, hit back, claiming the first they heard of yesterday's revelations was via a Town statement on their website and are now taking legal advice.

They accused yesterday's statement of contradicting the terms of the "latest contract" while saying the £8million payment over six monthly installments was in fact submitted by Town.

While claims and counter claims will undoubtedly continue over the next weeks and months, Swindon fans are left wondering who the potential new owner of the club is.

With some breathing space to their immediate financial crisis given, with a lock-out payment forwarded to the Inland Revenue, all concerned will be hoping the next few weeks of going through the books will conclude in a new era for the club.

Town's statement also revealed Jorge Rubenstein was a member of the BEST consortium.

[Colin Todd]

I'm not sure which list is longer currently, the creditors list or the people suing the club list.

Good times.

[RobertT]

       

 :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

It's just gone beyond a joke now.  BEST fancied paying another £8m did they, just offered it after their original offer was accepted.  Pull the other one you fuck wits.

So, BEST confirm the Adver report was 100% accurate in it's describing of the offer required by the club bar one extra detail we didn't know about:

50/50 split of any future developments by the club as well.

They really are a bunch of the greediest cunts the world has ever known.  Now we lay ourselves open to more legal action, more problems to surface when they next batch start going through the "first deal" before it gets amended.

Fuck off Wills, Fuck off Diamandis

[neville w]

Taking legal advice is not the same as suing.

[TalkTalk]

Jorge Rubenstein...crap Babelfish translation but you get the gist.

http://oleseamoldavia.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/2005_06.html

The Estoril Connection (3) - the friends Today, left plus a pearl on all the novel around Estoril SAD and of all the intervening ones in this process. After that, excerpts of a notice published in the Game on-line: "the destination of Douala must be known until the o end of this week. The proposal of five million euros, advanced for the enterprise group Southern Cross - led for Jorge Rubenstein, the Portuguese consolidated in London that controls... the SAD of the Estoril - for the acquisition of the porting rights of the camaronês International, it pleased to the leonine SAD, being able the agreement enters the parts to stamp already in the next thursday (...) the first conversations had still happened before Carlos Freitas if to fire from the director-generality position of the green and white SAD, with the entrepreneur Luis of Sousa (folloied of the friend and director-generality of the Estoril, SAD, Vasco Casquilho) puting in charge if of the boarding on behalf of the Southern Cross. (...) the group Southern Cross, one remembers, has come to cement its position in the national soccer, having started to control the SAD of the Estoril in the sequência of the purchase of the capital that Jose Fertile valley (director-generality of the SAD of the Benfica) withheld in that society anónima." We go to believe that the world of the soccer is a virtue world, of good youngsters. We go to believe that Jose Fertile valley even alienated its participation in Estoril SAD and the Superfute, of right and fact - because, in the official list of agents FIFA, already the Fertile valley name does not consist, but continues of Alexander the Young chicken of the Coast, associated with the Superfute. We go to believe that the "company" (in the mouth of António Figueiredo)"Southern Cross" is same a "enterprise group" (as this notice of the Game) that she congregates the companies who had bought directamente about 41 % of the shares withheld for Jose Fertile valley (KCK Developments, Primera Management and Mexes Marketing). We go to believe that the fact of the KCK to have been constituted in February of 2004 (as research of our prezado reading Francisco, that can be consulted in the commentaries of n.º 2 of this heading), in eves of the public knowledge (public, I repeat) of the invitation of Luis Filipe Vieira Jose Fertile valley to integrate the pictures of the incarnate SAD, as director-generality, does not pass of a mere coincidence. We go to believe that the Southern Cross did not know nobody in Portugal much less the members of the SAD of the Estoril and that it decided reconduziz them (after these having been chosen for Jose Fertile valley, that withheld 80 % of the shares and the right to vote) for the excellent practised management. We go to believe this everything, but we go to make plus some questions. 1. How it is that the group Southern Cross started to control the capital of Estoril SAD, if it bought 41 % of the shares withheld for Fertile valley, only is happened again, through the three cited companies (believing that the 3 companies are part of the group)? 2. Because it is that Vasco Casquilho, director-generality of Estoril SAD, chosen for the members of the SAD of the Estoril - what had been chosen by Jose Fertile valley - folloied the agent chief executive of the Southern Cross, Sousa Luis, in the boarding to the Sporting for the acquisition of Douala? 3, Vasco Casquilho is employee of Estoril SAD - with the Fertile valley consent - or is employee of the Southern Cross? Or he is simply friend of the agent chief executive of the Southern Cross? After all they are all friends... This profusion of companies makes to remember other histories. Histories that we go to relembrar in the next edition to Estoril Connection.

[TalkTalk]

And:

Força Sporting  04 Jun 2005, 09:39 AM

A Bola is indicating that Douala's transfer rights have been sold to an English football players' investment fund for $5 million Euros. Though Sporting does not have his rights, he may still play another season at Sporting in order to increase his value to this fund in the hopes of selling him at a higher rate in the summer of 2006:

Douala rende cinco milhões

O Sporting encaixou cinco milhões de euros relativos à venda do passe de Douala a um fundo de jogadores liderado por Jorge Rubenstein, investidor português radicado em Londres.

O mistério está desfeito: o passe de Douala foi vendido pela Sporting, SAD a um fundo de jogadores sedeado em Inglaterra e liderado por Jorge Rubenstein , um investidor português radicado na capital do Reino Unido.
Ao que A BOLA apurou, o processo de venda do passe do camaronês entrou, nos últimos dias, na sua fase conclusiva. Ontem mesmo terão chegado ao edifício Visconde de Alvalade as necessárias garantias bancárias relativas aos cinco milhões de euros que o fundo inglês pagou pelo jogador.

Esta venda do passe de Douala não implica que o jogador abandone Alvalade de imediato. Ainda assim, segundo informações recolhidas pelo nosso jornal, Douala foi, nos últimos dois meses, oferecido a vários clubes ingleses, franceses e espanhóis e alguns deles mostraram-se receptivos a acolher o jogador.

O destino de Douala poderá ainda não estar definitivamente traçado, mas é intenção dos investidores colocar o número 17, ainda durante este defeso, numa liga mais competitiva do que a portuguesa, para que o jogador ganhe maior visibilidade e, assim, consiga rentabilizar os cinco milhões de euros agora investidos.

Por seu turno, Douala, encontra-se à margem deste processo, até porque está ao serviço da selecção camaronesa que hoje defronta a do Benim, em jogo da fase de qualificação para o Mundial-2006.

[RobertT]

none of that matters anymore really, we always knew BEST was an odd entity that would bring with a lot of baggage etc.

The big issue here is the revelation, not that we needed it, that Diamandis and his "boss" clearly want to shaft anyone who offers money for the club and are in it to make some dosh.

£18m + 50/50 on any future development profits = £30m+ if it's done well.  Piss off you fuckers

[TalkTalk]

none of that matters anymore really, we always knew BEST was an odd entity that would bring with a lot of baggage etc.

No, I know. But it means closure if we know who we were supposed to be dealing with.

The big issue here is the revelation, not that we needed it, that Diamandis and his "boss" clearly want to shaft anyone who offers money for the club and are in it to make some dosh.

£18m + 50/50 on any future development profits = £30m+ if it's done well.  Piss off you fuckers

Too right.

Any fans who have been influenced at all by yesterday's statement from the club must surely see how dire the situation really is now, surely?

[axs]

none of that matters anymore really, we always knew BEST was an odd entity that would bring with a lot of baggage etc.

The big issue here is the revelation, not that we needed it, that Diamandis and his "boss" clearly want to shaft anyone who offers money for the club and are in it to make some dosh.

£18m + 50/50 on any future development profits = £30m+ if it's done well.  Piss off you fuckers

I got the impression that the 8million was offered by BEST as a pay off for SW/MD/Board not getting the 50/50 split. Or at least that's what the statement from the club said, whether its bollocks is another matter.

[RobertT]

the 50/50 was a late addition as well, so BEST needn't have offered anything instead of the other.  they could sith there with their original offer and say fuck you.

It's bollocks from the club, hence their careful wording of the statement they put out.

So now £8m deals are written on a bit of note paper are they??

Not an angry reply by the way, my venom is directed at the owner and his advisor

[Sippo]

I just found this on a google search...

http://www.cra-nc.org/images/Tax_refund_IOU.jpg

   

[axs]

Town insist BEST offered the figure as a pay-off for any future development on a handwritten note and this was never agreed to by anyone at Swindon.

yes, sounds like they thought of a convenient excuse at the last minute. I'm not sure the truth of this will ever come out.

[RobertT]

Town insist BEST offered the figure as a pay-off for any future development on a handwritten note and this was never agreed to by anyone at Swindon.

yes, sounds like they thought of a convenient excuse at the last minute. I'm not sure the truth of this will ever come out.

I wonder if the contract itself was written on a single ply toilet roll with negotiations taking place in the toliet of a back road petrol station with a Ginsters Pasty for refreshment?

[axs]

Town insist BEST offered the figure as a pay-off for any future development on a handwritten note and this was never agreed to by anyone at Swindon.

yes, sounds like they thought of a convenient excuse at the last minute. I'm not sure the truth of this will ever come out.

I wonder if the contract itself was written on a single ply toilet roll with negotiations taking place in the toliet of a back road petrol station with a Gisters Pasty for refreshment?

I was going for the bogs at Heston services.

[ghanimah]

We'll never know for sure, but if yesterday's statement was released as a response to Monday's meeting and also trying to limit the scale of the protests it's backfired somewhat. The recriminations are now public.