May 5th - The day Britain goes to the Polls

[Dazzza]

Howard knows full well especially as an immigrant himself that his policy claims are unworkable, and from the prospect of the macro ecomomy downright undesirable.....but he's always been economic with the actualite.

What I love about that is that under his current policy he would have been sent packing years ago.

 In fact back in the day had it not been for a Labour MP's intervention his old man would have been back on that Banana boat faster than Harold Shipman up a pensioner’s leg.

[Titch]

Surely most people appreciate that Reeves?!  I think for anyone to think otherwise shows incredible narrow-mindedness!

[reeves4england]

This has gone from "Who will you vote for" to "Should foreigners be allowed in to the UK"

How strange when all politicias go on about is education and the NHS! (mostly)

[Marie]

Lookin at it from another angle, walkin through town you see foreigner sat on the benches watchin the girls go buy every so often hissing (yes hissing) at them. what do they do during the day just sit about causing trouble?

Because a British person has never done that, obviously.

Of all the ridiculous generalisation and stereotyping I've ever seen, that's by far the strangest.

Im probably biased because of my own personal experiences. Your right english lads do do it and shout and whistle etc. but we have paid for these people to come into our country just to sit about the streets???

[sonicyouth]

Well, immigration is a political subject and one that the majority of people seem to care about most these days.

[sonicyouth]

Because a British person has never done that, obviously.

Of all the ridiculous generalisation and stereotyping I've ever seen, that's by far the strangest.

Im probably biased because of my own personal experiences. Your right english lads do do it and shout and whistle etc. but we have paid for these people to come into our country just to sit about the streets???[/quote]

Fair enough, but there's loads of white British people on the dole and/or sitting around on the streets as well, sponging off the government and living off the taxes people pay but people don't seem to care so much because they're white Brits, or at least that's how it looks to me. The Lib Dems are proposing to help immigrants find work so they don't have to rely on benefits. Whilst this won't make people who are too lazy to work do anything, it's a step in the right direction.

Personally I think a multi-cutural society can only be a positive thing.

[Marie]

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Fair enough, but there's loads of white British people on the dole and/or sitting around on the streets as well, sponging off the government and living off the taxes people pay but people don't seem to care so much because they're white Brits, or at least that's how it looks to me. The Lib Dems are proposing to help immigrants find work so they don't have to rely on benefits. Whilst this won't make people who are too lazy to work do anything, it's a step in the right direction.

Personally I think a multi-cutural society can only be a positive thing.[/quote]

Okay thats fair enough but when we bring them to our country to help them out....they re pay us by rising crime levels? seems very un just and in my opinion its declining our society.

[sonicyouth]

But it's not only immigrants that are responsible for crime.

[Amir]

I'll vote lib dem because they are the party I agree with most, and because they are the only ones here who can get the tories out.  On the whole though I hate all political parties.

I believe in 50% tax for those earning over £100,000 pounds a year(if you're earning that much you do have a very good accountant, Titch )  Those on lower incomes propotionally pay more tax than those on high incomes, and the only reason our highest rate is 40% is because of a fear in this country of the the time when you could pay 90p in the pound.  Most other European countries have 50% tax.

Also, I think the main problem with asylum in this country is to do with the system in place to deal with it.  People know they can come here and wait 4 years before being told they have to go back, and generally get away without going back even when they do.  How there are so many young Kosovan men in this country, I don't know.

[Dazzza]

There is a massive difference between immigration and what most people see as the spongers.  

Immigrants do not have any recourse to public funds and as a result don't really cost any of us a great deal and that's part of the conditions to be met before they are granted a visa / settlement in the first place.  

Your spongers come for the best part under the asylum seekers category.  By claiming false asylum they are not allowed to work (legally) and then get public funds to maintain and accomodate themselves.  

The main problem exists not in the immigration system but in the asylum system, which needs to get tougher and quicker Ozzie style.

[sonicyouth]

Also, I think the main problem with asylum in this country is to do with the system in place to deal with it.  People know they can come here and wait 4 years before being told they have to go back, and generally get away without going back even when they do.  How there are so many young Kosovan men in this country, I don't know.

Totally agreed. As far as I'm concerned there's nothing wrong with people coming to live in this country either as asylum seekers or just to work, but the system needs to work properly first.

[Amir]

The media only ever shows the negative side of immigration as well.  My personal pet hate comment is 'what would our grandfathers who fought in the war think if they could see our country now!'  Well my grandad worked on the underground with the West Indians who keep it going after the war, and I know what he thought.  He liked reggae too   The NHS also only exists today because of immigration.

[BrightonRed]

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[Asher]

Shouldnt get a penny from us! They should speak my language and work! I hate layabouts, white or black/asian!

[Boeta]

There is the BBC Asian radio station. What would people have said if they set up a station specifically aimed at whites?

We do. We have several radio statitions that are in general aimed at whites, and also, black people. The Asian culture and music is very different to the mainstream music scene. You never hear Asian music Radio 1 etc., so why can't they a station that does play it?

There is NO way I'm voting for that Blair cunt or that Howard cunt or that Ginger cunt.  Assuming they stand round my way, I will vote GREEN.  End of.

I bet the leader of the Greens is a cunt as well, or would be if he were in Blair's position.