Jim Little's dream

[flammableBen]

Or just saying they won't listen to any crappy little community forest groups or something.

[TalkTalk]

I would've thought that it is a reference to St Mowden?

I was reading it as a follow on to the "level of bureaucracy" comment Steve.

With the Speedway stadium redevelopment about to get thrown out at SBC Planning Committee tonight I have the feeling that is what he was referring to.

[Ardiles]

That site was a complete non starter!  One of the most inaccessible areas in Swindon.  They might as well have planned a 5,000 room brothel for the site.  It was never going to happen there.

[herthab]

I would've thought that it is a reference to St Mowden?

I was reading it as a follow on to the "level of bureaucracy" comment Steve.

With the Speedway stadium redevelopment about to get thrown out at SBC Planning Committee tonight I have the feeling that is what he was referring to.

Fairy snuff

[TalkTalk]

TThey might as well have planned a 5,000 room brothel for the site.  It was never going to happen there.

I wouldn't have campaigned against that.

[flammableBen]

TThey might as well have planned a 5,000 room brothel for the site.  It was never going to happen there.

I wouldn't have campaigned against that.

I would have, the overheads on a place like that would have pushed prices way up.

[Simon Pieman]

It'll probably be somewhere like South Marston

[Phil_S]

FWIW, I think J17 only existed in someone's head.  No way will Chippenham Town stand for it, & I can't see North Wilts going for it either. They wouldn't even allow the cattle market to relocate there.
Personally, if I wanted to watch chippenham football I'd go to CTFC, & pay the £8 it costs to go there. I am however, an STYFC supporter so expect my club to be in Swindon. Where however, is not a real concern as long as it offers easy access.

[TalkTalk]

FWIW, I think J17 only existed in someone's head.  No way will Chippenham Town stand for it, & I can't see North Wilts going for it either. They wouldn't even allow the cattle market to relocate there.
Personally, if I wanted to watch chippenham football I'd go to CTFC, & pay the £8 it costs to go there. I am however, an STYFC supporter so expect my club to be in Swindon. Where however, is not a real concern as long as it offers easy access.

There aren't any large vacant areas in the Swindon Local Plan 2011 that have a leisure use classification. Or in fact many vacant areas of any description. They have all been snaffled by housing developers already.

You can't just buy a plot of land and build a stadium. It has to meet planning guidelines.

It may well be that the next LDF (Local Development Framework) may allocate some room to the east of the A419, but that is quite a few years away yet.

So when Jim Bob says he won't let any third parties interfere or bureaucracy to get in the way, that's when I start to think he doesn't know much about the UK or Swindon Borough Council.

[RobertT]

my money would be that the Coate site is being targetted and possibly tother side of M4 at the Bassett junction.  I can't see any other sites of interest around Swindon right now that haven't already got a clear way of developing.

Subject to working with the local communities I wouldn't be that concerned about those locations.  I suppose the biggest issue will arise when the nature of any development is announced (housing and how much if any)

[TalkTalk]

my money would be that the Coate site is being targetted

It won't be Coate, the council have committed to keep the land south of Day House Lane free of development if (and almost certainly when) the university proposals fall through. North of Day House is earmaked for GWH expansion and possibly some housing.

possibly tother side of M4 at the Bassett junction.

Not within SBC's area  it won't. All of the land between Swindon and Bassett is designated Natural Environment by NWDC and a buffer between the towns. Very unlikely.

[Ardiles]

South Marston would make a lot of sense from a developers point of view.  You have a dual carriageway trunk road and a railway line (you never know) in the vicinity.

[TalkTalk]

possibly tother side of M4 at the Bassett junction.

Not within SBC's area  it won't. All of the land between Swindon and Bassett is designated Natural Environment by NWDC and a buffer between the towns. Very unlikely.

"NE2 THE SWINDON RURAL BUFFER

In the Rural Buffers, as defined on the proposals map, new development will be strictly controlled. Approval will not be given for the construction of new buildings which, individually or cumulatively, would lead to the coalescence of settlements. Subject to the proviso, new buildings for the purposes of agriculture, forestry, or other uses appropriate to a rural area will be permitted.

6.4 The Wiltshire Structure Plan 2011 introduced a policy (DP13) for a series of Rural Buffers to be maintained to protect the separate identities of towns and villages and prevent their coalescence with Swindon. These settlements included Wootton Bassett, Lydiard Millicent, Purton and Cricklade. It states that Local Plans need to define an area for each settlement that is essential to maintaining its physical separate identity and distinctive character. The extent of the area is limited to only identifying land that is essential to protect the named settlements from the continued growth of Swindon The policy is intended to protect the buffer from new buildings, to prevent any coalescence from building development pending a decision on the long-term future of the town. The policy is intended not only to prevent coalescence of settlements, but also new building development which might cumulatively lead to such coalescence. Other policies of the Local Plan apply to the Rural Buffer, including policies relating to the conversion of suitable buildings in accordance with the specified criteria. Tree planting and the conservation of the ancient woodlands and unimproved meadows in the area will be encouraged with the help and assistance of the Braydon Forest Countryside Management Project.

6.5 The general countryside and landscape policies apply to the Rural Buffer. Essential facilities for outdoor sport may include small changing rooms, or unobtrusive spectator accommodation. The extension, alteration, or replacement of dwellings will normally be acceptable in the Rural Buffer, provided proposals do not result in disproportionate additions over and above the size of the original building. Similar considerations would also apply to existing employment buildings.

6.6 Other Uses Appropriate To A Rural Area: These are uses that comply with the general countryside policies of the Plan and can include outdoor sport, recreation and tourism facilities."

[flammableBen]

They should just ignore the council and build somewhere anyway. Hire some security guards to keep an eye on the place. What are the council going to do about it?

[Lumps]

[There aren't any large vacant areas in the Swindon Local Plan 2011 that have a leisure use classification. Or in fact many vacant areas of any description. They have all been snaffled by housing developers already.

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What ever happened to the New Swindon Company's Urban Regen Strategy? That had proposed:

"Opportunity for around 12,000 sq m of sports and leisure facilities to serve the residents and businesses in North Star and the town centre"

in the Campus area around North Star.

http://www.newswindon.co.uk/regenerationAreas/p/theCampus/key-components/