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« Reply #120 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:04:04 » |
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Why doesnt someone undertake a credit check on this Portugese company- directors would be listed
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« Reply #121 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:14:30 » |
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Unfortunately the only way anything is going to change is if large numbers start to protest outside the back of the Arkells when JL is at a game, only then will any realisation of the feeling of dislike towards the current incumbents be highlighted to the new people. The only problem is that there is such apathy from the non internet forum fans that we would struggle to get 100 their unless the Trust were to get right behind it and issue a statement of intent to do this at every home game until MD,BH and SG are all ousted which we all know will not happen. Unless this happens then all we can do is keep turning up and supporting PS and the team whether we like it or not.
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« Reply #122 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:22:15 » |
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And to be honest, whilst I am suspicous of the takeover, there is still a chance it is what they say it is. I don't think the Trust should burn its bridges iunless there is something concrete that is shown to be wrong.
added to that even if it was a dodgy Diamandis effort then I think most people are a) weary of the whole off field battle, b) generally happy enough as long as things look good on the pitch and we aren't going under as a club - which is how it should be really.
It could all end in tears of sorrow or triumph, but at this stage all anyone can do is ask the obvious questions really to Mr Little.
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« Reply #123 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:23:32 » |
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Do it Bart.
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« Reply #124 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:27:00 » |
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Thats the problem people are just reading the bits that they want to.Little has said that they MIGHT keep them on board but they will be working for the new owners.They will not be making the decisions and to be honest i will be amazed if they are here in 6 months.The takeover is not complete yet so little is very unlikely to come out and say "right he is going" he is a useless cunt etc.
Let the takeover be completed THEN see what happens Well said Dean
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« Reply #125 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:27:45 » |
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Thats the problem people are just reading the bits that they want to.Little has said that they MIGHT keep them on board but they will be working for the new owners.They will not be making the decisions and to be honest i will be amazed if they are here in 6 months.The takeover is not complete yet so little is very unlikely to come out and say "right he is going" he is a useless cunt etc.
Let the takeover be completed THEN see what happens Well said Dean Seconded.
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« Reply #126 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:30:19 » |
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as I posted before, doesn't the Board make decisions, not the shareholders. All the shareholders do it appoint the Board and remove them if they do a shit job. If the current lot stay on the Board they still have control and have to be voted off by Best. Jim Little will just hold the casting vote.
It must be this way because it's exactly how they got in a mess with Brady etc. SSW held more shares than Best will but he was still undermined by them over more than a year.
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« Reply #127 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:37:44 » |
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And to be honest, whilst I am suspicous of the takeover, there is still a chance it is what they say it is. I don't think the Trust should burn its bridges iunless there is something concrete that is shown to be wrong.
added to that even if it was a dodgy Diamandis effort then I think most people are a) weary of the whole off field battle, b) generally happy enough as long as things look good on the pitch and we aren't going under as a club - which is how it should be really.
It could all end in tears of sorrow or triumph, but at this stage all anyone can do is ask the obvious questions really to Mr Little. Spot on ,as red macca said we need to give it 3 to 6 months at least unless of course some other watershed happens like PS leaving or the CVA not being paid and a points deduction but they are all pure speculation at the moment.
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« Reply #128 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:38:34 » |
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Thats the problem people are just reading the bits that they want to.Little has said that they MIGHT keep them on board but they will be working for the new owners.They will not be making the decisions and to be honest i will be amazed if they are here in 6 months.The takeover is not complete yet so little is very unlikely to come out and say "right he is going" he is a useless cunt etc.
Let the takeover be completed THEN see what happens Well said Dean Disagree. This is a forum. By that logic we shouldn't comment on football matters until the end of the season and we know exactly where we've finished. hmmm... 
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« Reply #129 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:41:25 » |
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Apologies for the Babel Fish translation of this Portuguese article in Diario de Noticias The English adepts already had been become accustomed to see Russians, Icelandic, Americans, Israelis and until Egyptians and tailandeses in the presidential armchairs of its stadiums. Now they will have to become accustomed themselves, perhaps, to the presence of Portuguese in the administration of one of the clubs oldest of the country. In the morning of Wednesday, the Swindon Town FC emitted a brief official notice, of two paragraphs, confirming that the club had been vendido to Best Holdings SGPS, SA, a society of predominantly Portuguese investment. The notice, however, was received with immense diffidence on the part from the press and the local adepts had to the secretismo that has involved the "mysterious Portuguese". The Swindon, that in 1993/94 passed esporadicamente for the Premiership, disputes the League One, the third step of the English soccer currently. Established in 1879, the Swindon crossed some periods of financial difficulties, including two processes of bankruptcy and others two of tax foreclosure for debts. Sir Seton Wills, proprietor of the club in last the 16 years, embedded part of the personal richness in the Swindon Town FC, but in the last times it seems to have lost the patience and the enchantment for the club of this city the 130 quilómetros of London. In the scope of the last process of bankruptcy, initiate in 2002, the Swindon committed itself to pay a million to it of pounds (1,49 million euros) to the diverse creditors in the stated period five year. The club continues to have it 900 a thousand pounds (1,34 M) In the passed year, a trust of adepts of the Swindon tried to buy, without success, the club. The proposal of takeover now presented for the Best Holdings, for the visas, had luck better. The club, however, did not advance any details on the business, promising to clarify the adepts during the next week. "Inside of days they will know more things", explained the lawyer of the club, Trevor Watkins, of the society Clarke Willmott, specialized in takeovers of soccer clubs. "This is plus an example of a British club that is to attract foreign money. Each time has more clubs, of all the divisions, to awake it covets it of foreign investors ", added. In fóruns of quarrel on to the club, however, the adepts have revealed its desperation before the information lack on the new owners. The local press advanced that the "trust of investors, maioritariamente Portuguese", bought the Swindon for 10 million (14,9 million euros) - a notice that nobody confirms. The Best Holdings, by the way, does not consist of the registers in Portugal. An administrator of the club explained solely that the new investors have "experience of management of clubs in Portugal" - an affirmation that soon gave origin to a series of rumors, in this city of 180 a thousand inhabitants, on the eventual entrance of the Benfica in the capital of the English club. The presence of some players represented for Castro Brothers, on the other hand, launched a speculation wave on the envolvement of this company of Portuguese agents Dionísio and Sundays I castrate. Here, at least, it seems to have some truth: "I do not go to it to hide that we are involved [ in the operation of takeover ] in the Swindon. But for already I cannot say more nothing ", explained an enigmatic Dionísio Castro to the DN sport in the afternoon of ontem. http://dn.sapo.pt/2007/08/18/dnsport/o_misterioso_takeover_fala_portugues.html
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« Reply #130 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:44:50 » |
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the plot thickens...
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« Reply #131 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:45:06 » |
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Toddy the Mushroom  Ok. Can we deal in facts, not rumour. What FACTUAL basis is there for stating any of the old board are crooks? (I know they're crap at their jobs, but it's not the same thing). What FACTUAL basis has anyone got that the new owners are the same people that were in charge before? Why do so many of you desperately try to find the negatives and harp on constantly about the worst possible scenario? Isn't it logical to assume that the new investors require some continuity in the club until they are up to speed? :goodpost: Some good points there, amongst the fevered speculation. I don't profess to know a lot of the background goings on (apart from what you read here), but I am prepared to wait and see and support my team!
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« Reply #132 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 12:54:29 » |
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Re Talk Talk's post. This backs up my speculation that Diamond Mike and Wills junior have got into bed with agents. Presumably its against some sort of rules for agents to "own" clubs, but maybe not to have some investment, as long as they remain anonymous. Of course we can only wait and see.....but the conspiracy theorists seem closer to the facts than the 
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« Reply #133 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 13:00:46 » |
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Toddy the Mushroom  Ok. Can we deal in facts, not rumour. What FACTUAL basis is there for stating any of the old board are crooks? (I know they're crap at their jobs, but it's not the same thing). What FACTUAL basis has anyone got that the new owners are the same people that were in charge before? Why do so many of you desperately try to find the negatives and harp on constantly about the worst possible scenario? Isn't it logical to assume that the new investors require some continuity in the club until they are up to speed? :goodpost: Some good points there, amongst the fevered speculation. I don't profess to know a lot of the background goings on (apart from what you read here), but I am prepared to wait and see and support my team! Thanks Bob, you can put the stick down now. 
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« Reply #134 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 13:03:41 » |
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Apologies for the Babel Fish translation of this Portuguese article in Diario de Noticias The English adepts already had been become accustomed to see Russians, Icelandic, Americans, Israelis and until Egyptians and tailandeses in the presidential armchairs of its stadiums. Now they will have to become accustomed themselves, perhaps, to the presence of Portuguese in the administration of one of the clubs oldest of the country. In the morning of Wednesday, the Swindon Town FC emitted a brief official notice, of two paragraphs, confirming that the club had been vendido to Best Holdings SGPS, SA, a society of predominantly Portuguese investment. The notice, however, was received with immense diffidence on the part from the press and the local adepts had to the secretismo that has involved the "mysterious Portuguese". The Swindon, that in 1993/94 passed esporadicamente for the Premiership, disputes the League One, the third step of the English soccer currently. Established in 1879, the Swindon crossed some periods of financial difficulties, including two processes of bankruptcy and others two of tax foreclosure for debts. Sir Seton Wills, proprietor of the club in last the 16 years, embedded part of the personal richness in the Swindon Town FC, but in the last times it seems to have lost the patience and the enchantment for the club of this city the 130 quilómetros of London. In the scope of the last process of bankruptcy, initiate in 2002, the Swindon committed itself to pay a million to it of pounds (1,49 million euros) to the diverse creditors in the stated period five year. The club continues to have it 900 a thousand pounds (1,34 M€) In the passed year, a trust of adepts of the Swindon tried to buy, without success, the club. The proposal of takeover now presented for the Best Holdings, for the visas, had luck better. The club, however, did not advance any details on the business, promising to clarify the adepts during the next week. "Inside of days they will know more things", explained the lawyer of the club, Trevor Watkins, of the society Clarke Willmott, specialized in takeovers of soccer clubs. "This is plus an example of a British club that is to attract foreign money. Each time has more clubs, of all the divisions, to awake it covets it of foreign investors ", added. In fóruns of quarrel on to the club, however, the adepts have revealed its desperation before the information lack on the new owners. The local press advanced that the "trust of investors, maioritariamente Portuguese", bought the Swindon for 10 million (14,9 million euros) - a notice that nobody confirms. The Best Holdings, by the way, does not consist of the registers in Portugal. An administrator of the club explained solely that the new investors have "experience of management of clubs in Portugal" - an affirmation that soon gave origin to a series of rumors, in this city of 180 a thousand inhabitants, on the eventual entrance of the Benfica in the capital of the English club. The presence of some players represented for Castro Brothers, on the other hand, launched a speculation wave on the envolvement of this company of Portuguese agents Dionísio and Sundays I castrate. Here, at least, it seems to have some truth: "I do not go to it to hide that we are involved [ in the operation of takeover ] in the Swindon. But for already I cannot say more nothing ", explained an enigmatic Dionísio Castro to the DN sport in the afternoon of ontem. http://dn.sapo.pt/2007/08/18/dnsport/o_misterioso_takeover_fala_portugues.htmlInteresting that that is posted on the portuguese equivilent of BTinternet.com. Emailed it to my mother who lives near Lisbon to see if she can shed any light on the matter 
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