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« Reply #75 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 14:43:59 » |
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I don't buy the Arkaga Fund/multiple investor line.
If that was the case then there wouldn't need to be another holding company, Arkaga could do it directly as it appears that they have done with Cork.
Best Holdings looks as though it has been set up as a vehicle especially for this. Either Arkaga have a stake in it or they have been hired to run and manage it for Best.
Therefore I tend to think that there is a small number of investors behind it and they don't want to be made public. Agreed, it is very suspicious.
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« Reply #76 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 14:49:36 » |
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But there is obviously big players in this investment company, probably with other people putting small amounts in, why can't they say who they are ? (we all assume it is the portugeezers)
But what get's me, now maybe I'm wrong, is how can they say people put money in and take it out all the time, how will they know if there will ever be enough money in there to cover transfers for example if that is viewed over and above the initial investment and for the CG tarting up excercise he talks about. I wonder how long before they expect to start seeing a return on their investment, let's face it nobody put's money in not expecting to get anything in return even if it is over x amount of years.
The problem is with stfc you cannot help but be suspicious, we have had years of being treated like idiots and mere turnstile fodder.
If they told us we would probably just shrug our sholders and say oh ok then that's fine we understand how it works now.
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« Reply #77 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 15:19:12 » |
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I don't buy the Arkaga Fund/multiple investor line.
If that was the case then there wouldn't need to be another holding company, Arkaga could do it directly as it appears that they have done with Cork.
Best Holdings looks as though it has been set up as a vehicle especially for this. Either Arkaga have a stake in it or they have been hired to run and manage it for Best.
Therefore I tend to think that there is a small number of investors behind it and they don't want to be made public. Agreed, it is very suspicious. Spot on. Given the reported sums of money involved I don’t buy for one minute the story that Best Holdings cannot produce a definitive list of shareholders as there's a constant fluctuating number of investors adding and removing their stake. Depending on which media source you read someone has invested a significant amount of money up to the tune of 10 million. Can anyone honestly believe that that sort of money has been funded by a large list of Portuguese stakeholders that are so diverse and varying that their identities cannot definitively be revealed? Something doesn’t sit right here and as you mention the only certainty is that the owners wish to remain anonymous. Is there a company business check that can be run on Portuguese companies? |
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« Reply #78 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 15:33:58 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. I wouldn't invest in it. I wonder how Standard & Poor rate us?  |
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« Reply #79 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 15:41:16 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. I wouldn't invest in it. I wonder how Standard & Poor rate us? Probably poor  |
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« Reply #80 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 15:43:53 » |
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I reckon the original line, of 3 main investors being diadamdis, Wills & the other investor has more than a grain of truth in it!
Lets face it Diadamdis loves holding companies etc.
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« Reply #81 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 20:48:42 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. I wouldn't invest in it. I wonder how Standard & Poor rate us? ZZZ- at the moment although it could get worse (if we use the chinese alphabet) |
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« Reply #82 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:03:43 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. If Little is claiming that people are constantly putting money into Best Holdings, and others are taking money out, on an adhoc basis, he's talking out of his arse. An investment fund relies on the growth of it's invested capital over varying fixed periods of time. For obvious reasons, you can't run an investment fund where contributing investors can just take their money back whenever it suits them. Once again, we seem to be being taken for a bunch of country bumpkin cunts who'll believe whatever shit is fed to us. A plastic septic is now lording it over us, he wont say who his paymasters are or what they want with OUR club, and he wants Dia-fucking-mandis to have a seat on the new board??  This is a wind-up, right? |
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« Reply #83 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:12:11 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. If Little is claiming that people are constantly putting money into Best Holdings, and others are taking money out, on an adhoc basis, he's talking out of his arse. An investment fund relies on the growth of it's invested capital over varying fixed periods of time. For obvious reasons, you can't run an investment fund where contributing investors can just take their money back whenever it suits them. Once again, we seem to be being taken for a bunch of country bumpkin cunts who'll believe whatever shit is fed to us. A plastic septic is now lording it over us, he wont say who his paymasters are or what they want with OUR club, and he wants Dia-fucking-mandis to have a seat on the new board?? This is a wind-up, right? Sadly it seems not...... |
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« Reply #84 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:13:03 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. If Little is claiming that people are constantly putting money into Best Holdings, and others are taking money out, on an adhoc basis, he's talking out of his arse. An investment fund relies on the growth of it's invested capital over varying fixed periods of time. For obvious reasons, you can't run an investment fund where contributing investors can just take their money back whenever it suits them. Unless you're talking about money laundering! |
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« Reply #85 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:18:23 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. If Little is claiming that people are constantly putting money into Best Holdings, and others are taking money out, on an adhoc basis, he's talking out of his arse. An investment fund relies on the growth of it's invested capital over varying fixed periods of time. For obvious reasons, you can't run an investment fund where contributing investors can just take their money back whenever it suits them. Unless you're talking about money laundering! Why do you mention 'money laundering' ?? :? |
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« Reply #86 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:20:12 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. If Little is claiming that people are constantly putting money into Best Holdings, and others are taking money out, on an adhoc basis, he's talking out of his arse. An investment fund relies on the growth of it's invested capital over varying fixed periods of time. For obvious reasons, you can't run an investment fund where contributing investors can just take their money back whenever it suits them. Unless you're talking about money laundering! Why do you mention 'money laundering' ?? :? Coz Mr Flemming is a crime writer |
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« Reply #87 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 22:22:05 » |
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« Reply #88 on: Monday, August 20, 2007, 23:31:43 » |
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Now it's a ghost story and a crime thriller :shock:. Makes a change from being a badly written farce I suppose
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 06:47:28 » |
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With Little suggesting people are taking money out and putting money into Best Holdings all the time, it seems to me that we've just become Swindon Town Football Club (Really Badly) Managed Fund. I wouldn't invest in it. I wonder how Standard & Poor rate us? Probably poor As Mr Little would be the fund manager I would be more interested in Jim Little's Citywire ratings. |
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