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« Reply #165 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 20:21:31 » |
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Just ploughed through the thread, from page 6, so could well be the same thread i couldn't be fucked to post in, but so what.
There seems to be a lot of bollocks in this thread, and a shit load of stupid as fuck speculation.
Things said such as (non verbatim), "If MD is still involved we will be fucked and the money will disappear...", "If the new investors own the majority of shares they can stop diamandis calling the shots..."
It's all idle shit. The fact that Diamandis and SSW are still involved matters not. If what we hear is true and we'll be getting a large amount of money, SSW and MD will be fucked.
I think there is a tendency to tar people with the SSW brush and assume that all businessmen are a touch slow and perhaps lack the skills to control their money. Why?
I mean, does anyone honestly believe that someone who has made millions of pounds could be made to look stupid by people with little or no business acumen?
SSW has little business skills, as i understand it, and this is perhaps proven in using MD as an advisor. As many a rich person says, "I only listen to those with more money than myself, because i can learn from them." (or words to that effect).
The fact is, whether the new investor has shares or not, doesn't matter, MD and SSW will be playing with the big boys. They WILL be out smarted at every turn by someone who would certainly have more business sense than the entire board combined. Should anything below board be attempted, they would never get their filthy little mits and bank accounts on a rich man's money.
I know some very rich people, and one thing i know is, they are far from stupid and you won't get a single penny out of them without them having you by the bollocks first.
A self-made rich person sees every 'play' as motion towards reaching a goal. If they are getting nothing out of it, they don't play.
I think that any investment, whether SSW and MD are involved or not, will be their downfall. I'm convinced of it.
They may feel they've cunningly invited a rich man to play ball and to cheat to victory feeling it'll be a walk in the park. If they have they will be fucking steamrollered.
Think logically it's not always a dark future we face. I see where your coming from. Also if this new investor(s) is actually taking over the club (which seems to be the possible outcome at the moment) they he will be calling the shots. as you say MD and SSW will probably only be on the board. but the person who owns the club will have the final say on where their money goes (if they have any sense) which i'm sure they probably do.
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« Reply #166 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 20:22:04 » |
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Is a manatee a step up from man at C&A ?
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« Reply #167 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 20:31:58 » |
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i went to see a manatee at the cinema the other day.
turned out to be a morning showing of a stupid disney cartoon.
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« Reply #168 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 20:32:38 » |
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Just ploughed through the thread, from page 6, so could well be the same thread i couldn't be fucked to post in, but so what.
There seems to be a lot of bollocks in this thread, and a shit load of stupid as fuck speculation.
Things said such as (non verbatim), "If MD is still involved we will be fucked and the money will disappear...", "If the new investors own the majority of shares they can stop diamandis calling the shots..."
It's all idle shit. The fact that Diamandis and SSW are still involved matters not. If what we hear is true and we'll be getting a large amount of money, SSW and MD will be fucked.
I think there is a tendency to tar people with the SSW brush and assume that all businessmen are a touch slow and perhaps lack the skills to control their money. Why?
I mean, does anyone honestly believe that someone who has made millions of pounds could be made to look stupid by people with little or no business acumen?
SSW has little business skills, as i understand it, and this is perhaps proven in using MD as an advisor. As many a rich person says, "I only listen to those with more money than myself, because i can learn from them." (or words to that effect).
The fact is, whether the new investor has shares or not, doesn't matter, MD and SSW will be playing with the big boys. They WILL be out smarted at every turn by someone who would certainly have more business sense than the entire board combined. Should anything below board be attempted, they would never get their filthy little mits and bank accounts on a rich man's money.
I know some very rich people, and one thing i know is, they are far from stupid and you won't get a single penny out of them without them having you by the bollocks first.
A self-made rich person sees every 'play' as motion towards reaching a goal. If they are getting nothing out of it, they don't play.
I think that any investment, whether SSW and MD are involved or not, will be their downfall. I'm convinced of it.
They may feel they've cunningly invited a rich man to play ball and to cheat to victory feeling it'll be a walk in the park. If they have they will be fucking steamrollered.
Think logically it's not always a dark future we face. I agree 100% with this post :goodpost:
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« Reply #169 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 20:45:11 » |
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Is a manatee a step up from man at C&A ? i nominate this as the greatest ever post in tef history.
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« Reply #170 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 21:57:59 » |
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The board brought in Power in the first instance Actually Mark Devlin did. what happened there happened there - it's going to be a while before we find out I expect We know what happened - read the minutes of the meeting at the Railway Museum meeting in September, we laid it all out there. Rubbished by the board at the time and been proven correct piece by piece ever since. However, those points aside I do understand the weariness at "if the board say the "New Consortium" is good it must be bad". The fact is we don't know at this time whether there is a "New Consortium", if there is who it comprises of, whether they/he/she/it are actually capable in financial and business terms of digging the club out of the shit the current board have dumped us in or what their intentions are. Until we know all of the above, I'd suggest we're all best reserving judgement, either positive or negative until we actually know what we're looking at.
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« Reply #171 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 22:09:43 » |
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Bollocks Paul, I've just seen one of The Horsemen riding past on his way to pick up a few mates for a gallop.
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« Reply #172 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 22:44:37 » |
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« Reply #173 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 23:00:13 » |
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Maybe the new investor is a manatee ninja gymnast of great strength. I doubt it though, eb would have heard something.
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« Reply #174 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 23:18:39 » |
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Just ploughed through the thread, from page 6, so could well be the same thread i couldn't be fucked to post in, but so what.
There seems to be a lot of bollocks in this thread, and a shit load of stupid as fuck speculation.
Things said such as (non verbatim), "If MD is still involved we will be fucked and the money will disappear...", "If the new investors own the majority of shares they can stop diamandis calling the shots..."
It's all idle shit. The fact that Diamandis and SSW are still involved matters not. If what we hear is true and we'll be getting a large amount of money, SSW and MD will be fucked.
I think there is a tendency to tar people with the SSW brush and assume that all businessmen are a touch slow and perhaps lack the skills to control their money. Why?
I mean, does anyone honestly believe that someone who has made millions of pounds could be made to look stupid by people with little or no business acumen?
SSW has little business skills, as i understand it, and this is perhaps proven in using MD as an advisor. As many a rich person says, "I only listen to those with more money than myself, because i can learn from them." (or words to that effect).
The fact is, whether the new investor has shares or not, doesn't matter, MD and SSW will be playing with the big boys. They WILL be out smarted at every turn by someone who would certainly have more business sense than the entire board combined. Should anything below board be attempted, they would never get their filthy little mits and bank accounts on a rich man's money.
I know some very rich people, and one thing i know is, they are far from stupid and you won't get a single penny out of them without them having you by the bollocks first.
A self-made rich person sees every 'play' as motion towards reaching a goal. If they are getting nothing out of it, they don't play.
I think that any investment, whether SSW and MD are involved or not, will be their downfall. I'm convinced of it.
They may feel they've cunningly invited a rich man to play ball and to cheat to victory feeling it'll be a walk in the park. If they have they will be fucking steamrollered.
Think logically it's not always a dark future we face. Not sure I follow your 'self-made rich blokes will see through the likes of SSW or Diamandis' logic, Bazza :| I can see where you're comming from, but I wouldn't bet against a serial con man with previous, managing to 'hook' another investor into his way of thinking. Don't underestimate anyone 
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« Reply #175 on: Thursday, July 5, 2007, 23:23:19 » |
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Don't underestimate anyone  Especially if they're a manatee.
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« Reply #176 on: Friday, July 6, 2007, 07:37:05 » |
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Don't underestimate anyone  Especially if they're a manatee. I renounce your manatee religion. Beluga are the way forward. http://www.zen49395.zen.co.uk/pics/beluga.jpg
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« Reply #177 on: Friday, July 6, 2007, 08:27:39 » |
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I renounce your manatee religion.
Beluga are the way forward.
We are Narwhal, super Narwhal, no one likes us, we don't care.
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« Reply #178 on: Friday, July 6, 2007, 09:34:05 » |
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Is a manatee a step up from man at C&A ? i nominate this as the greatest ever post in tef history. Very kind, unless of course you're being ironic !
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« Reply #179 on: Friday, July 6, 2007, 12:40:53 » |
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Bollocks Paul, I've just seen one of The Horsemen riding past on his way to pick up a few mates for a gallop. Mr M Diamandis - Horseman of the Acropolis.
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