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I have full respect for the NHS, and agree that whilst Doctors earn huge sums nurses don't earn a fortune. However they do earn a decent wedge, or at least my Brother in law does alright. Teachers are a major shortage and unlike nurses it is harder to bring them in from abroad IHMO. I do think they do alright money wise - perhaps not for the skills they have but anyone who gets into that job knows the conditions before they start- it's not like nures 20 years ago earned a fortune and worked short hours - there might be slight drop in conditions but young teachers and nurses are fully aware of this when they do the job. It's not part and parcel of there job to get abused by patients at work, and I don't think many are aware of this aspect of the job before they start, whereas those that become teachers have all been to school and are therefore aware of what to expect. In my opinion teachers, police atc have been given greater benefits of their jobs over the last few years, compared to nurses. As you said, it's not like nurses earned a fortune and worked short hours 20 years ago, but thats the problem, that these conditions aren't changing for the better Fine sentiments. Now you've finished your degree, perhaps you'd like to start helping to pay for some of your suggested improvements ?. And, as you have no recollection of a period of time after your exams, are you sure you didn't abuse any hard working people of any kind ? I take it you're not a fan of students then. The average graduate pays more tax over their lifetime than those that don't go to university so that argument is swings and roundabouts. I'm not just talking about drunks abuising NHS staff, even sober people can get violent if they think they've been waiting too long or feel their patient isn't getting the correct treatment etc They are there to help people and i'm saying that I don't think they get the respect they deserve. |
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« Reply #46 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 15:45:12 » |
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I have full respect for the NHS, and agree that whilst Doctors earn huge sums nurses don't earn a fortune. However they do earn a decent wedge, or at least my Brother in law does alright. Teachers are a major shortage and unlike nurses it is harder to bring them in from abroad IHMO. I do think they do alright money wise - perhaps not for the skills they have but anyone who gets into that job knows the conditions before they start- it's not like nures 20 years ago earned a fortune and worked short hours - there might be slight drop in conditions but young teachers and nurses are fully aware of this when they do the job. It's not part and parcel of there job to get abused by patients at work, and I don't think many are aware of this aspect of the job before they start, whereas those that become teachers have all been to school and are therefore aware of what to expect. In my opinion teachers, police atc have been given greater benefits of their jobs over the last few years, compared to nurses. As you said, it's not like nurses earned a fortune and worked short hours 20 years ago, but thats the problem, that these conditions aren't changing for the better I would be interested to know what benefits the police have been given over the last few years? My lady now works longer hours gets more grief and more abuse to deal with than she did 5 years ago.If you want to talk about an emergency service that gets more benefits then try fireman for starters,how many other of the ES can play volleyball whilst on duty?sleep on night shift?get a 9% pay increase and go on strike! |
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« Reply #47 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 15:57:01 » |
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I have full respect for the NHS, and agree that whilst Doctors earn huge sums nurses don't earn a fortune. However they do earn a decent wedge, or at least my Brother in law does alright. Teachers are a major shortage and unlike nurses it is harder to bring them in from abroad IHMO. I do think they do alright money wise - perhaps not for the skills they have but anyone who gets into that job knows the conditions before they start- it's not like nures 20 years ago earned a fortune and worked short hours - there might be slight drop in conditions but young teachers and nurses are fully aware of this when they do the job. It's not part and parcel of there job to get abused by patients at work, and I don't think many are aware of this aspect of the job before they start, whereas those that become teachers have all been to school and are therefore aware of what to expect. In my opinion teachers, police atc have been given greater benefits of their jobs over the last few years, compared to nurses. As you said, it's not like nurses earned a fortune and worked short hours 20 years ago, but thats the problem, that these conditions aren't changing for the better I would be interested to know what benefits the police have been given over the last few years? My lady now works longer hours gets more grief and more abuse to deal with than she did 5 years ago.If you want to talk about an emergency service that gets more benefits then try fireman for starters,how many other of the ES can play volleyball whilst on duty?sleep on night shift?get a 9% pay increase and go on strike! Fireman have had big benefits compared to the rest i agree. With police, they have had pay rises in line with what they should, but I can't comment on their work conditions. I'm not underestimating the job any of the emergency services do, I just feel that the NHS hasn't been brought into line with modern times with pay and working conditions whereas the others seem to have been. |
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« Reply #48 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 15:59:42 » |
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Totally agree mate,i work for the NHS and have been offered 1.9% split over the year,whoopy doo.
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« Reply #49 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 16:16:57 » |
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Danger wanking is ace foggy.
Outside a primary school is premiership class.
In the back row of choir practice is championship level.
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« Reply #50 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 17:12:59 » |
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« Reply #51 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 18:11:58 » |
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Danger wanking is ace foggy.
Outside a primary school is premiership class.
In the back row of choir practice is championship level. I was going to ask how you got your jaw broken.......... |
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« Reply #52 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 20:55:13 » |
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Danger wanking is ace foggy.
Outside a primary school is premiership class.
In the back row of choir practice is championship level. I was going to ask how you got your jaw broken.......... Pilled up youth. |
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« Reply #53 on: Friday, June 1, 2007, 22:01:05 » |
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i didn't do it!
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