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« on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 22:34:17 » |
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discuss...
I think not, you are were you deserve to be after 38 games, it's not the players fault or curbishleys they signed the 2 argies, nor the fans- and besides tevez is skill and i want to see him the premiership next yeat
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« Reply #1 on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 22:38:21 » |
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i agree, football shouldnt be sorted in a courtroom. from what i hear its only a slightly dodgy contract its not like he didnt have a work permit or something that id consider more serious
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« Reply #2 on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 22:43:04 » |
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i think neil warnock should be shot for being a total cunt.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 22:49:18 » |
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I think Warnock should chill out to Tévez's Cumbia villera band Piola Vago http://www.myspace.com/piolavago101 |
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« Reply #4 on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 22:49:25 » |
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I put no mainly because of what DMR mentioned.
Warnock has made so many silly errors and comments it's untrue.
Good riddance.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday, May 14, 2007, 23:03:26 » |
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At the end of the day, before the season starts all Premier League teams vote and chose an independent panel to arbitrate on such cases, and then agree to be bounded by the findings of said panel.
When something like the Tevez issue happens and the panel rules on it, the teams can't then turn around and say "i don't like the judgement, i'm going to sue" even though they signed a contract saying the agree to be binded by any result the panel finds!!
West Ham should defo stay up, just wish it was plastic Wigan and not Sheff Utd, a proper club!
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 06:17:03 » |
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i think neil warnock should be shot for being a total cunt. agreed many times over |
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 06:32:51 » |
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They should have been docked points for signing a player that may not have been signed had the full truth been disclosed at the time.
I don't like the idea of most of the legal action in football, but if the PL won't play by their own guidelines and with £30m at stake it's inevitable.
So I voted yes for these reasons. And of all the teams I wanted to stay up West Ham were the one (didn't really care much TBH). I quite like Curbs.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 08:28:44 » |
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Warnock is ace, you gays.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:02:48 » |
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Although I have no issues with West Ham, and am probably just playing devils advocate but.....
I'm sure you all remember when we were wronged by the Football Authorities, and although we probably wouldn't have been able to pay a massive fine, we were effectively demoted.
There really does need to be some sort of consistency. I've no idea of the severity of out crimes compared to West Hams, or Spurs', or Bury's, or Leeds.....But the outcomes have varied massively!
If teams are going to be fined for this sort of thing, then they should be fined a percentage of their yearly revenue or something.
And if they are going to deduct points, then they need to deduct points from every team that breaks these rules.
Consistency is the key.
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:19:00 » |
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Although I have no issues with West Ham, and am probably just playing devils advocate but.....
I'm sure you all remember when we were wronged by the Football Authorities, and although we probably wouldn't have been able to pay a massive fine, we were effectively demoted.
There really does need to be some sort of consistency. I've no idea of the severity of out crimes compared to West Hams, or Spurs', or Bury's, or Leeds.....But the outcomes have varied massively!
If teams are going to be fined for this sort of thing, then they should be fined a percentage of their yearly revenue or something.
And if they are going to deduct points, then they need to deduct points from every team that breaks these rules.
Consistency is the key. I agree to a certain extent - alas the FA and Premier League are two different ruling bodies - so can judge as they wish - and the PL discipline comitee rules seem to have been unilaterally agreed at the start of the season. In 1990 we couldn't have afforded a huge fine, so I guess we had to have a points deduction or similar - Bury and non-league teams are the same - tens of thousands would be more than Bury could afford. West Ham perhaps should have been docked points but the authorities had the choice - ie they could hit the club witha big fine knowing it could be paid - in 1900 if we'd have been fined £500k it could have bankrupted the club IMHO - not saying it was right just that there was a choice to be made. |
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:25:49 » |
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to be fair, 500k was a lot of money in 1900
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:32:20 » |
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I know but even £100k would have been a massive sum to a club who were skint. If did something similar to West Ham now and got a fine not points loss we'd be proper screwed about £50 would put us on the back foot.
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:33:48 » |
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No; West Ham shouldn't be relegated, they've been given their punishment and that's that as far as I'm concerned.
All this threatening of court action is pathetic and it's only because managers like Warnock are looking for an excuse for their teams' shite performances that couldn't keep them in the Premiership.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 09:35:02 » |
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I know but even £100k would have been a massive sum to a club who were skint. If did something similar to West Ham now and got a fine not points loss we'd be proper screwed about £50 would put us on the back foot. I think you missed the irony in Dave's post, Matt  |
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