The CVA balls up and this forums reaction to it

[Bedford Red]

The facts are this Lumps. Bill Power put in his first £500k in February, I believe, as the club needed finance at the time urgently. I was then asked to see if Bill would put in his second half million in July, because there were outstanding issues including the CVA. My understanding was that June's CVA installment was to be paid once BP's money was in the bank. As CEO the buck would normally stop with me, but the Finance Director was not taking her instructions from me, so frankly I can't tell you anymore about why it hasn't been paid, as, like most people, I was under the impression it had been paid until I read the websites.

That last sentence worries me the most  

[Bennett]

if mark is telling the truth what happened to the bp's money? are you willing to take a lie detector test mark?

[Reg Smeeton]

but we're not up to date with the cva payment as it hasn't been paid and nor has it been renegotiated yet.

either way it's a question of semantics and interpretation which is clearly going to be different depending on which side of the fence you sit.

Personally I'm trying to sit on the fence rather than standing on one side of it shouting insults and hurling rocks at the people on the other side.

Particularly when one of the people on the other side is SSW who's already threatened to just fuck off and leave us to it.

As my Euromillions ticket didn't do the business for me t'other week I don't feel in a position to scream "your family and friends are crooks that are bleeding the club dry" to the man that's managed to find a few hundred grand a year to keep us going for the last fucking decade.

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

   All throughout this, its always been pointed out the appreciation for the efforts of the Wills family, nevertheless nothing lasts for ever and on balance, their tenure has failed to further the club.....quite the opposite in fact.  

  It is now time for a change.....of course this strategy is not without its dangers,  but  the pressure needs to be ratcheted up.....

[Frigby Daser]

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

Good point. Fact is, we're all so angry we need to approach this with our heads not hearts. We  need to get round the table with the board and make an offer, if we're in a position to do so. I wouldnt be surprised at all if the Wills' and Diamandis are too proud to hand over to the fans - as thy've publically stated their disapproval for the figureheads (so to speak), Mike and Paul.

We need to move on from criticism to a constructive move forward.

[Mark D]

Mr B, why is a lie detector test necessary? It has been widely acknowledged and accepted (by the club in their various statements) that BP has put over £1M into the club.

[Bennett]

i was being light hearted, it's my downfall, as is my sunny disposition.

so if billy put in £1million then where has this money gone?

[Mark D]

Sorry, went over my head. Stop being so arse licky!

[Bennett]

i like coats  

[sonic youth]

i love you mark, i know you have a wife and all but can we elope?

[yeo]

Sorry, went over my head. Stop being so arse licky!

 

[Mark D]

Thanks Sonic

[Frigby Daser]

It'll be interesting to see if the Adver go to town tomorrow on this one or add it as a footnote of supporter anxiety...

After all, if they run the story they'll probably be denied access to the ground etc etc

I just want ot enjoy football. Had enough. Signing out...for a few days anyway.

[pauld]

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

The people being criticised, the Newbury crew, are precisely the last people we want to see around a negotiating table. The people we need to negotiate with are the Wills family - no-one has criticised them and we are on record as expressing admiration for them so often it's almost, well, "arse-lickey".

[Lumps]

The facts are this Lumps. Bill Power put in his first £500k in February, I believe, as the club needed finance at the time urgently. I was then asked to see if Bill would put in his second half million in July, because there were outstanding issues including the CVA. My understanding was that June's CVA installment was to be paid once BP's money was in the bank. As CEO the buck would normally stop with me, but the Finance Director was not taking her instructions from me, so frankly I can't tell you anymore about why it hasn't been paid, as, like most people, I was under the impression it had been paid until I read the websites.

Thanks for that. Nice to get something from the horses mouth rather than the other end.

Truth is I'm sat up in Yorkshire. Unlike others on this forum I've never met you and so,  although your posts on here score you big plus points, I've got no feeling for the personalities involved in the issues at the club.

So when I see statements that completely condemn some individuals, whilst elevating others, like yourself, to positions worthy of canonisation, I can't help but think, "hold on surely there's a bit of grey somewhere in this black and white picture of the world".

Clearly there are some real problems at the club, and most of the people that post on here, like me, know very little about the details. Unfortunately that doesn't stop others slagging people off as if they actually knew them.

It means that the small group of posters that might actually know something, for me just get lost in the sea of ranting Dunwoody marketing bashers.

You're the obvious exception to this being one of the parties involved. So thanks for being prepared to comment. I hope you haven't dropped yourself in it by doing so.

I wish I could say your contribution has made me feel happier but actually it's just very depressing.

Paul D has remarked elsewhere that my contributions are based on the club running as a normal business, and they are. Because that's all have to go on other than the sea of rumour and innuendo on this site, and club statements from the official one that I take with a big pinch of salt. But the idea that a CEO isn't kept up to date with the overall financial position of the organisation, that the FD doesn't report him is just ............. well shit....... what a mess.

Thanks again for being prepared to post. Hope you're back on your feet soon.

[Lumps]

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

The people being criticised, the Newbury crew, are precisely the last people we want to see around a negotiating table. The people we need to negotiate with are the Wills family - no-one has criticised them and we are on record as expressing admiration for them so often it's almost, well, "arse-lickey".

You should have worked out by now that this "We like, trust and respect you but your friends and the people you've appointed to run your affairs are a bunch of incompetent money grubbing crooks" line isn't going down to well with the Wills's.

The Newbury/Dunwoody lot are a fact that you're going to have to take account of. SSW keeps sticking by them no matter how much you slag them off. All it does is further entrench their position when you keeping questioning the families judgement in retaining them.

Unless you're hoping Gandalf will stride into the boardroom and smack SSW on the head with a big stick and get him to see "wormtongue" Diamandis in his true colours, you'd better think of a new approach.