Sir Seton Wills

[TalkTalk]

Basically him and James were born into money.

NOt much business sense and it shows

 Not true......once upon a time there was plain old David Seton who came from Blunsdon....stood on the terraces at the CG watching the likes of Sammy Burton.

  He married a Wills family heiress, and rather than she becoming Mrs Seton, he became Mr Wills, dropped the David and became Seton.  Its often stated that the investment is from the Wills family, because its Lady Wills who is minted.  I suspect SSW has never had  or needed any great business acumen, being of an old school type, which includes property and such in the old African Empire.
 
 Which is why I believe, he relies on Diamandis, who has plenty of experience in dealing with companies who are technically bust and trying to salvage something from the dregs.

  James obviously was born into money, and his profile is lower than a snakes belly.....never shows at AGM's,  has never publically made any utterance about his involvement in the club.......SSW is a fan, James would seem not to be.

Blimey. Reg is actually wrong for once.

With respect Reg, SSW is indeed a direct peer and didn't marry into money. His family line is the Wills family of WD & HO tobacco fame.

Have a look at http://www.thepeerage.com/p3785.htm#i37849

David Seton Wills, 5th Bt.1 (M)
b. 29 December 1939, #37849
Pedigree

Father    Major George Seton Wills b. 18 May 1911
Mother    Lilah Mary Hare b. 26 August 1915

Last Edited    15 Oct 2005

     David Seton Wills, 5th Bt. was born on 29 December 1939. He is the son of Major George Seton Wills and Lilah Mary Hare.
     David Seton Wills, 5th Bt. succeeded to the title of 5th Baronet Wills.

Citations    

   1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 3, page 4199. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.

You can follow the links on that page all the way back to his grandfather, Sir Ernest Salter Wills. He is famous as the last family director of the tobacco company before they merged with Imperial Tobacco.

http://members.cox.net/ghgraham/ernestwills1869.html

[Simon Pieman]

* Even if one person is making the errors, they are employed by certain people; ergo, there is a level of accountability in that respect

surely thats my point as well, that wills is fucking stupid to allow dunwoody to mismanage his money so badly again and again.

* Others have made mistakes at this club which have proven costly. Sandy Gray's excellent job at VAT accounting the prime example.

Gray's a Diamandis and Dunwoody puppet though. So if you get rid of Diamandis she goes as well. Essentially take out the cancer at the source and the rest will go as well.

But, as you rightly point out, SSW does allow Dunwoody to mismanage his money then getting rid of Dunwoody would still only tackle half of the problem, because the initial mismanagement of money would come from the source of it. Who's to say that once Dunwoody are out that the new peoples broght in will do a better job, when the finances would be entirely managed by them?

I just think it's a little one dimensional to lay all the blame on the Diamandis - even if it is him that's making errors, then the real error is to keep letting him do it.

[Boeta]

agreed hence me calling ssw a fucking idiot (or words to that effect) at least twice in this thread

[Reg Smeeton]

Basically him and James were born into money.

NOt much business sense and it shows

 Not true......once upon a time there was plain old David Seton who came from Blunsdon....stood on the terraces at the CG watching the likes of Sammy Burton.

  He married a Wills family heiress, and rather than she becoming Mrs Seton, he became Mr Wills, dropped the David and became Seton.  Its often stated that the investment is from the Wills family, because its Lady Wills who is minted.  I suspect SSW has never had  or needed any great business acumen, being of an old school type, which includes property and such in the old African Empire.
 
 Which is why I believe, he relies on Diamandis, who has plenty of experience in dealing with companies who are technically bust and trying to salvage something from the dregs.

  James obviously was born into money, and his profile is lower than a snakes belly.....never shows at AGM's,  has never publically made any utterance about his involvement in the club.......SSW is a fan, James would seem not to be.

Blimey. Reg is actually wrong for once.

With respect Reg, SSW is indeed a direct peer and didn't marry into money. His family line is the Wills family of WD & HO tobacco fame.

Have a look at http://www.thepeerage.com/p3785.htm#i37849

David Seton Wills, 5th Bt.1 (M)
b. 29 December 1939, #37849
Pedigree

Father    Major George Seton Wills b. 18 May 1911
Mother    Lilah Mary Hare b. 26 August 1915

Last Edited    15 Oct 2005

     David Seton Wills, 5th Bt. was born on 29 December 1939. He is the son of Major George Seton Wills and Lilah Mary Hare.
     David Seton Wills, 5th Bt. succeeded to the title of 5th Baronet Wills.

Citations    

   1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 3, page 4199. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.

You can follow the links on that page all the way back to his grandfather, Sir Ernest Salter Wills. He is famous as the last family director of the tobacco company before they merged with Imperial Tobacco.

http://members.cox.net/ghgraham/ernestwills1869.html

 Interesting....I never made my story up, but read it somewhere, just can't remember where......so we've a contradiction.  Either way, SSW hasn't made money by himself as such, but gained through family connection.