Fucking crazy..what's this place coming to?

[janaage]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6142416.stm

Absolute joke.

[Batch]

Fucking gay bit of the human rights act.  They shouldn't have rights, they are in prison not fucking Butlins.

I'm all for bare minimum sustenance and slopping out in prison. Don't like it. Don break the fucking law in the first place.

[sonic youth]

the junkie waster cunts should be thankful!

[Piemonte]

I think they deserve the compasion that any human being deserves. They should be given proper rehab and treatment.

[sonic youth]

fair enough giving them proper rehab, but it's a waste of time and resources if they're just gonna get back on it when they get released. of course,  some will stay clean but there's always going to be those who won't.

and compensating them for it is a fucking joke.

[yeo]

Shouldnt have settled out of Court surely if it went to Court any Judge in their right mind would have awarded nominal compensation i.e expenses and a penny.

[cavpete]

Shouldnt have settled out of Court surely if it went to Court any Judge in their right mind would have awarded nominal compensation i.e expenses and a penny.

what got me is that the prison handbook states "that all prisoners should expect the same treatment and care as if they was outside". no wonder this country is a laughing stock. what next, cleaners inside prisons and tea ladies just in case they get parched playing there fecking ps2s'... :evil:  :evil:

[red macca]

makes me fucking mad this does.getting paid to get clean??? the rewards for getting clean are your health,your life ,family, future and respect from society again

if thats not enough to get yourself clean then fuck treatment stay in prison wher you cant do anyone else any damage

[herthab]

Fuck em. I think we should get ALL prisoners hooked on heroin, then make them ALL go cold turkey!

That would be a real punishment.

Theiving, murdering, conning, paedo scum.

[stfc_carver]

why should they be given proper rehab? someone please explain. its illeagal to do it in the first place. if they do it to the point where they're physically addicted, theyre fuckin idiots and dont deserve to have taxpayers money spent on 'proper' rehab. its their problem, not ours.

[red macca]

why should they be given proper rehab? someone please explain. its illeagal to do it in the first place. if they do it to the point where they're physically addicted, theyre fuckin idiots and dont deserve to have taxpayers money spent on 'proper' rehab. its their problem, not ours.

it becomes societys problem though doesnt it.

[sonic youth]

why should they be given proper rehab? someone please explain. its illeagal to do it in the first place. if they do it to the point where they're physically addicted, theyre fuckin idiots and dont deserve to have taxpayers money spent on 'proper' rehab. its their problem, not ours.

because it's better off for society that they're clean when they get out.

chances are if they don't stay clean, they'll end up going straight back in anyway.

at least if you try and get them clean and sober, they might lead a worthwhile life.

macca's bang on.

[herthab]

why should they be given proper rehab? someone please explain. its illeagal to do it in the first place. if they do it to the point where they're physically addicted, theyre fuckin idiots and dont deserve to have taxpayers money spent on 'proper' rehab. its their problem, not ours.

because it's better off for society that they're clean when they get out.

chances are if they don't stay clean, they'll end up going straight back in anyway.

at least if you try and get them clean and sober, they might lead a worthwhile life.

macca's bang on.

Surely you're less likely to go back to drugs if you suffered during withdrawl?
If they went cold turkey in prison, they'd still be clean when they came out.

But they would've have suffered a bit.

Good..............

[Spencer_White]

This countries drug policy is a complete failure and an utter shambles.

What a joke.

[lumpimynci]

It's worth bearing a few things in mind:

1. A proportion of the prisoners that brought this case were on remand, so hadn't been tried and convicted of anything

2. If cold turkey was an effective route to coming off smack, don't you think a few drug treatment programmes would use it?

3. The self rightous codemnation of anyone that's ever committed a criminal offence is a bit rich coming from a forum where I'd guess about 80-85% of us have admitted to some sort of criminal act at some time over the last year or two. Drug references abound, drink driving, criminal damage, reckless driving, assault, histories of football hooliganism etc. etc. etc. It's all in these threads if you go back a bit, (most of them in the last one posted by Walrus!).

4. All the law says is that prisoners are entitled to the same medical treatment as the rest of the population. It's hardly wooly liberalism it's one of the bare minimum standards you'd expect from a civilised country with a reasonable human rights record. Drug treatment falls into the area of medical treatment and so legally these fellahs are entitled to get the same kind of methadone programme as someone voluntarily entering treatment on the outside.  The governments coughed the cash because they knew they'd lose if it went to court.

5. By coincidence I watched the first of a new series of 30 days last night, with that Morgan Unspellable bloke that did Supersize me. If anyone else saw it, think about the two prisons he was in and which one was more likely release people onto the street that you wouldn't want to bump into on a dark night