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« Reply #75 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:15:29 »

The truth will come out chaps
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« Reply #76 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:16:20 »

I'll give you credit, you are an excellent wind up merchant
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« Reply #77 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:16:30 »

and a cunt
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« Reply #78 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:18:13 »

I don't think that people are taking money out the club like that but I do have some points:

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Fuck you Bart, how do you know Diamandis pissed him off? You're a mindless delusional cunt who thinks we should be pushing for the premiership.


The club has said serveral attempts to contact Power by Diamandis were ignored. I think this was beofre the crash, wehich leads to questions and speculaton about why the calls weren't returned. It wasn't necessarly Diamandis that he fell out with. On the other hand it may have been unrelated to any fall out. We will have to hope for the other sides point of view, if it ever comes at all.

But if this was after the crash it is understandable.

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Think Bart. No one is pulling money out of the club, why would they? Where would they get it?

I think that people see that the club is effect being run by Mr Diamandis. He is in charge of Dunwoody. Dunwoody have contracts to supply STFC.

All of the above point may be totally irrelevant, but the conflict of interest and lack of transparency will always make some people suspicious.

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The fact is we have a fuck load of debt, to survive is an achievement. The boards objective is to ensure we survive, to allow us to amble along servicing our considerable debt until such time as we can aim higher.

Totally agree there. But the board seem to be running our of cash, or rather Sir Seaton Wills does. We need to somehow become self sufficient ASAP. I guess that comes down to the ground redevelopment

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Power's money would have done little, any injections of cash are short lived as they would fall into the black hole of our debt. His money would have allowed some small financial luxuries, but in the long term would have just kept us on a false even keel until the debt collectors come banging.

I think that is probably true, but the club may well have at least afforded a good team short term. Which is what a large % of fans want.  Who knows what contacts Power may or may not have head elsewhere to help move us forward?
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« Reply #79 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:18:26 »

As i said, thr truth will come out.

Remember we have only heard from the club. Nothing official from Power,Devlin or Linda.

And to be honest- how can you believe anything the club say when :

1) 1 week there wasnt a rift- the next they release a statement to say there was

2) 1 day they agree to work with the fans- 3 days later they totally contradict themselves
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« Reply #80 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:22:02 »

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All of the above point may be totally irrelevant, but the conflict of interest and lack of transparency will always make some people suspicious.


That I can 100% agree with ... and I would like to know what kind of behind-the-scenes involvement the man *really* has.
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« Reply #81 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:22:53 »

Chris read back to the club statements- James Wills said he signs off all decisions.
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« Reply #82 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:25:03 »

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As i said, thr truth will come out.

Remember we have only heard from the club. Nothing official from Power,Devlin or Linda.


No, that is true. But the point I keep making to you is that until we do hear we're all thinking the worst.

My issue with you is summed up in the first line there. "As I said ..."

You're making out you know more than you're saying on this forum. I'll say it again ... put up, or shut up. Either admit you know jack and you're just speculating or tell what you know.

I suspect the jack option myself.
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« Reply #83 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:26:23 »

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Chris read back to the club statements- James Wills said he signs off all decisions.


What's that got to do with the price of fish?
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« Reply #84 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:44:51 »

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Chris read back to the club statements- James Wills said he signs off all decisions.


What's that got to do with the price of fish?


Now who's acting stupid?

Bart is perfectly clear. He means the club should be pushing for the premiership and diamandis is milking this club for every penny. Why are we letting it happen?   Wink
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« Reply #85 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 11:52:16 »

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I don't think that people are taking money out the club like that but I do have some points:

Quote from: "Barry Scott"
Fuck you Bart, how do you know Diamandis pissed him off? You're a mindless delusional cunt who thinks we should be pushing for the premiership.


The club has said serveral attempts to contact Power by Diamandis were ignored. I think this was beofre the crash, wehich leads to questions and speculaton about why the calls weren't returned. It wasn't necessarly Diamandis that he fell out with. On the other hand it may have been unrelated to any fall out. We will have to hope for the other sides point of view, if it ever comes at all.

But if this was after the crash it is understandable.

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Think Bart. No one is pulling money out of the club, why would they? Where would they get it?

I think that people see that the club is effect being run by Mr Diamandis. He is in charge of Dunwoody. Dunwoody have contracts to supply STFC.

All of the above point may be totally irrelevant, but the conflict of interest and lack of transparency will always make some people suspicious.

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The fact is we have a fuck load of debt, to survive is an achievement. The boards objective is to ensure we survive, to allow us to amble along servicing our considerable debt until such time as we can aim higher.

Totally agree there. But the board seem to be running our of cash, or rather Sir Seaton Wills does. We need to somehow become self sufficient ASAP. I guess that comes down to the ground redevelopment

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Power's money would have done little, any injections of cash are short lived as they would fall into the black hole of our debt. His money would have allowed some small financial luxuries, but in the long term would have just kept us on a false even keel until the debt collectors come banging.

I think that is probably true, but the club may well have at least afforded a good team short term. Which is what a large % of fans want.  Who knows what contacts Power may or may not have head elsewhere to help move us forward?


Great post  Clap
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« Reply #86 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 12:20:58 »

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Chris read back to the club statements- James Wills said he signs off all decisions.


What's that got to do with the price of fish?


Now who's acting stupid?

Bart is perfectly clear. He means the club should be pushing for the premiership and diamandis is milking this club for every penny. Why are we letting it happen?   Wink


I feel such a dumb schumck now for not spotting that.  Oops

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« Reply #87 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 12:57:33 »

The one issue with Diamandis, and it doesn't matter whether he is a saint or a sinner, is the fact that he has final say on the major decisions at the football club but does not have the accountability of a Director or employee.

Whether the club like it or not, that does create a perception problem at the very least.

Imagine if some bloke was actually telling Blair what to do, and they publicly let us know that it was case.  I'd imagine a National outcry via the media would begin, about slease etc.

Now, that's not to say he does anything wrong at all, it's just a question of someone having a lot of responsibility without the accountability.
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« Reply #88 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 13:03:34 »

True, but surely he is accountable to SSW?

Anyway, i see what you say. It remind me of that dickhead who was helping that Blair arsehole, Alistair Campbell.
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« Reply #89 on: Thursday, October 19, 2006, 13:13:37 »

It's because it's not a legal accountability.  As a shareholder you can not hold his decisions to account, and there is the big problem which is impossible to get around regardless of the actual job he does.

It allows people to question Dunwoody contracts for example, even if Dunwoody provided the best quote.
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