|
Gazza's Fat Mate
|
 |
« on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 15:05:34 » |
|
I think it is. Nearly every major war that has ever been fought has been done to religion and I reckon it should be outlawed.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Iffy's Onion Bhaji
petulant
 Offline
Posts: 15863
|
|
« Reply #1 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 15:12:59 » |
|
i wouldn't go that far but i do believe religion is pointless
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
my-velocity
|
|
« Reply #2 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 15:14:55 » |
|
It has caused alot of wars over the years but then again lots of things have caused wars you can't just single that out.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Gazza's Fat Mate
|
|
« Reply #3 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 15:29:56 » |
|
Yeah you can world war two, the crusdaes the current "war on terrisom" are all to do with religion!
In fact I struggle to think of anything good that religion does. I know they do lots of work for the poor etc but their are plenty of charties out there that are not reliogion based. The cathiloic church has probably killed millions with it's anit condom stance which has only help increase the spread of HIV/Aids.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
rudeboydreas
|
|
« Reply #4 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 15:52:28 » |
|
Religion gives people something to believe in, just like sport, music etc does. We all have to believe in something.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
img]http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9228/diamandisal7.jpg[/img]
|
|
|
Barry Scott
Offline
Posts: 9134
|
|
« Reply #5 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:01:53 » |
|
I'm an atheist, so i'm biased, but i agree.
Religion gives some hope and a reson for living but personally i think it's a load of shit and the root of all evil.
For years it has been used as a method of control. Do this and go to hell etc...
The Church is the second largest owner of land in the UK, or was, yet they ask for money and dress it up as a kind of first class ticket to heaven. Bollocks. Grow up, it's a fucking book which reads like a fucking tabloid.
Seriously, how can rational people believe it?
It's just an early form of extortion and control used to manipulate the sheep like masses for personal gain. It's just like the media, marriage, education, law, etc, nowadays.
Teach 'em young, they'll conform for life.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ron dodgers
Offline
Posts: 2742
shaddap your face
|
|
« Reply #6 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:27:27 » |
|
no but it may be the root
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Stef Troll
Offline
Posts: 3161
|
|
« Reply #7 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:44:13 » |
|
I'm an atheist, so i'm biased, but i agree.
Religion gives some hope and a reson for living but personally i think it's a load of shit and the root of all evil.
For years it has been used as a method of control. Do this and go to hell etc...
The Church is the second largest owner of land in the UK, or was, yet they ask for money and dress it up as a kind of first class ticket to heaven. Bollocks. Grow up, it's a fucking book which reads like a fucking tabloid.
Seriously, how can rational people believe it?
It's just an early form of extortion and control used to manipulate the sheep like masses for personal gain. It's just like the media, marriage, education, law, etc, nowadays.
Teach 'em young, they'll conform for life. As a Catholic i have to disagree with all the shit you've mentioned above but... What pisses me of about Athiets are When they die, they still expect some kind of funeral or cermony usually performed by a priest. If they dont believe in an after life, then why should they be buried at all, or why not just get your best mate to perform a cermony in your name They usually get married in a Church with the blessing made by a priest. Again whats the point in being Married by a priest in a Church if you dont believe in the religious message behind a wedding. Again you may as well not get married at all, or get your local bar man to do it for yo They usually have their kids bapised in the name of God - just in case Heaven and Hell really do exist - meaning they child has a chance of going to Heaven i it does exist Religion isn't the root of all evil - people are FACT. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Northern Red
|
|
« Reply #8 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:47:28 » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Mexicano Rojo
Offline
Posts: 11954
Demasiado no es demasiado
|
|
« Reply #9 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:48:37 » |
|
in an answer to your question no. just dumb fucking ignorance leads to war, get educated world.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
dogs
Offline
Posts: 828
|
|
« Reply #10 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 16:48:49 » |
|
I agree with Barry Scott wholeheartedly.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
rudeboydreas
|
|
« Reply #11 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 18:09:21 » |
|
I'm an atheist, so i'm biased, but i agree.
Religion gives some hope and a reson for living but personally i think it's a load of shit and the root of all evil.
For years it has been used as a method of control. Do this and go to hell etc...
The Church is the second largest owner of land in the UK, or was, yet they ask for money and dress it up as a kind of first class ticket to heaven. Bollocks. Grow up, it's a fucking book which reads like a fucking tabloid.
Seriously, how can rational people believe it?
It's just an early form of extortion and control used to manipulate the sheep like masses for personal gain. It's just like the media, marriage, education, law, etc, nowadays.
Teach 'em young, they'll conform for life. As a Catholic i have to disagree with all the shit you've mentioned above but... What pisses me of about Athiets are When they die, they still expect some kind of funeral or cermony usually performed by a priest. If they dont believe in an after life, then why should they be buried at all, or why not just get your best mate to perform a cermony in your name They usually get married in a Church with the blessing made by a priest. Again whats the point in being Married by a priest in a Church if you dont believe in the religious message behind a wedding. Again you may as well not get married at all, or get your local bar man to do it for yo They usually have their kids bapised in the name of God - just in case Heaven and Hell really do exist - meaning they child has a chance of going to Heaven i it does exist Religion isn't the root of all evil - people are FACT. I agree (even with your signature  ), but the only thing to question is the marriage thing, you're right in terms of having a civil ceremony instead, but not disregarding marriage entirely. My boss had 2 children with her now husband, but for the first 10/8 years of the children's lives, if anything happened to the mother, the father had no right to the children. There are some legalities that marriage brings. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
img]http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9228/diamandisal7.jpg[/img]
|
|
|
Tails
Offline
Posts: 10198
Git facked
|
|
« Reply #12 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 18:20:56 » |
|
As a Catholic i have to disagree with all the shit you've mentioned above but...
What pisses me of about Athiets are
When they die, they still expect some kind of funeral or cermony usually performed by a priest. If they dont believe in an after life, then why should they be buried at all, or why not just get your best mate to perform a cermony in your name
They usually get married in a Church with the blessing made by a priest. Again whats the point in being Married by a priest in a Church if you dont believe in the religious message behind a wedding. Again you may as well not get married at all, or get your local bar man to do it for yo
They usually have their kids bapised in the name of God - just in case Heaven and Hell really do exist - meaning they child has a chance of going to Heaven i it does exist
Religion isn't the root of all evil - people are FACT.
How do you know this, do you know every atheist and what they get up to? Weddings and Funerals are held because it's the 'traditional' way to do things. I know plenty of people who have got married in a church but aren't particularly religious at all. People are yes, but I think you'll find a large majority of conflict in the world has come from some sort of religious hate. I personally think most religions are a load of bollocks. I'm not completely ignorant and do respect a person's right to believe in what they want to, I just find it hard to buy some of the crap that we are supposed to believe. There's so many faults with Christianity... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Barry Scott
Offline
Posts: 9134
|
|
« Reply #13 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 18:44:20 » |
|
As a Catholic i have to disagree with all the shit you've mentioned above but...
What pisses me of about Athiets are
When they die, they still expect some kind of funeral or cermony usually performed by a priest. If they dont believe in an after life, then why should they be buried at all, or why not just get your best mate to perform a cermony in your name
They usually get married in a Church with the blessing made by a priest. Again whats the point in being Married by a priest in a Church if you dont believe in the religious message behind a wedding. Again you may as well not get married at all, or get your local bar man to do it for yo
They usually have their kids bapised in the name of God - just in case Heaven and Hell really do exist - meaning they child has a chance of going to Heaven i it does exist
Hey, i'm a proper atheist, i depise the church. No chance of anything for me being done in a church or by any minister of religion. Ever. Any child of mine will not be baptised. Should they want to be baptised when they are old enough, fine, but i won't force that shit on them. People should be free to make their own decisions when they are old enough to make them and not have opinions forced upon them as truth, when, in my eyes, they are not. Religion isn't the root of all evil - people are FACT. I agree, religion is just a catalyst.
just in case Heaven and Hell really do exist - meaning they child has a chance of going to Heaven i it does exist
Just for the sake of the discussion, i would point out this is the kind of scare tactics used to induce people into following this dogma. For years these things have been said in both the name of war (early Christian crusades where massive numbers were slain in the name of god), and in order to install fear and create a delightfully malleable population. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
McLovin
|
|
« Reply #14 on: Monday, October 2, 2006, 19:55:20 » |
|
I was never christened. What does this mean for the future? Can i have a funeral or get married?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
