Question for the anti Newbury / Diamandis hate mob

[Samdy Gray]

That so many fans are still loyal to them is an amazement to me. The club is in a continual recession, and theres no way we are going to get another Bill Power to help us out. Power wanted to see us succeed, Dunwoody can only see spreadsheets.

Don't forget it was this board who saved our club from extinction not so long ago, but that would probably be why so many show loyalty towards them.

I agree with Spencer though, since they saved the club they haven't exactly done anything of note.

It's time for a change, either SSW needs to get his wallett out or he can pack up, sell up and fuck off.

[Spencer_White]

I do remmember that. I do remmember that night after Brentford away 2002, I was there. Ive said before it was my worst moment supporting STFC. But that was 4 and a half years ago and we have to move on.

Their main remit seems to be to downgrade the club as much as possible. I want to see us go forward. I want something positive. I want someone competant and commited at the top of the club. I want people who wont forget to pay the tax. I want a chairman who goes to games. I want a chairman who likes football. I want someone who will talk to the fans (shock!) and has some (any) respect for us. I want someone who sees STFC as a football club and not a bargaining chip for housing.

We cant go back to being run by Dunwoody. They are an absolute joke.

[STFC Bart]

Reg and Spencer White never a truer word said

With even Banbury against them- that says something. They must go, they have no credit

[Simon Pieman]

But what you want as a fan Spencer, is a big money investor. None seem to be forthcoming so at the moment the club is being run like this. You can't ignore the debts and at least this board has seemingly not done this as previous boards had.

Until we get a new stadium (if ever), or someone with proper financial clout invests heavily in us we will have to keep running the club this way

[RobertT]

We did have one of those for a bit! (investor)

Right now I'd settle for being in competent hands even if it meant no great investment.

I'm not sure if Devlin will resign, but I'm fairly sure he's been hung out publicly for the sack on his return.

[Simon Pieman]

Power invested £1.1m, which is a lot of money for us, but in terms of a football investment (in the general industry) isn't. But the way people are going on you'd think we'd lost Abramovich ffs. If we want proper progression through financial investment people will want a Madejski type, which we don't have.

[RobertT]

Power invested £1.1m, which is a lot of money for us, but in terms of a football investment (in the general industry) isn't. But the way people are going on you'd think we'd lost Abramovich ffs. If we want proper progression through financial investment people will want a Madejski type, which we don't have.

I see a person like Power to be what we could expect at best as a club.

He invested £1m without even having the paper work in place first and had promised further investment down the line.

To lose him harms us right now and harms us ongoing, especially as we prepared our budgets etc on the basis he would be here.  To be stood peering over the cliff at the prospect of Devlin being shifted on as well would leave us back where we were 12 months ago but a league lower and with even less time to find the money for the CVA, and without the person who dealt with all the clubs admin (which has annoyed the players and Wise).

[pauld]

I think if you're going to make a proper assessment of what we've lost Si Pie, you have to consider that Power had made an initial investment of £1.1 million and was (by all accounts) happy to pick up the tab on football-related expenditure this season on top of that. How else do you think we could have afforded Wise, Poyet and even to have thought about talking to Ince? So, you've then got to think, well if that's for starters, we really could have been going places with careful cultivation of a decent working relationship with a man with money to invest and a fan's enthusiasm for football.

And instead, we're not. I think Spencer's pretty much on the money. Which is more than the club is (again).

[RobertT]

BTW, to go from happy clappy head of the face painters and wig wearers to being in a permanent state of rage since yesterday late in the evening is quite soul destroying.  I guess I'd personally be a happier person if I'd gone home after work yesterday and not read the internet all day.

[Simon Pieman]

I'm not saying it doesn't harm us, or it's not a bad thing or that I don't appreciate what Power did for us (because I do). But I think some people have perhaps put Power on a bigger pedestal than is perhaps warranted.

For people saying get your cheque book out SSW - he's invested more than anyone so in my view deserves the stake he has etc. That said if he has forced Power out then obviously he's a bastard for that reason.

[Simon Pieman]

I think if you're going to make a proper assessment of what we've lost Si Pie, you have to consider that Power had made an initial investment of £1.1 million and was (by all accounts) happy to pick up the tab on football-related expenditure this season on top of that. How else do you think we could have afforded Wise, Poyet and even to have thought about talking to Ince? So, you've then got to think, well if that's for starters, we really could have been going places with careful cultivation of a decent working relationship with a man with money to invest and a fan's enthusiasm for football.

And instead, we're not. I think Spencer's pretty much on the money. Which is more than the club is (again).

Again this I'm not denying. But we were hardly going to be a super club with Power on board, that was made clear. The point I'm making is that some people are giving the impression that they think we could have been a super club with Power involved but I personally think that is naive.

[Samdy Gray]

I think, and this is entirely based on my own opinion, SSW and Diamandis are trying to keep up their % stake in the club for the sole purpose of making a quick buck if (big if) the stadium redevelopment goes ahead.

[RobertT]

I don't see that SSW suddenly needs to massively invest, or that he has had any "real" role to play in anything.  He's a nice bloke if you ever meet him, but I just think he's not able to see some of the people around him for what they may be.  If SSW could be convinced we'd live in a much happier place right now.

[pauld]

It doesn't have to be a Power or SSW thing - it's not a black v white, good v evil thing. We all have good reason to be very grateful for the money the Wills family have put in over the years. That doesn't mean, tho, that Power is not a very great loss and the circumstances surrounding his departure of grave concern

[Simon Pieman]

[rubs chin]I wonder how much SSW would make out of a stadium redevolpment?[/rubs chin]

I thought Diamandis wasn't a director though? (that's a genuine question not a rhetorical one btw).