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« Reply #15 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:08:42 »

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If this deal comes off then it will be well worth the wait........


Yes

every morning i wake up to check if we've signed ince, then go back to bed and wake up at lunchtime hoping we've signed him but it's ot happened yet. i feel like a kid at christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAY
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:12:05 »

ok, in my expirence people who mull over contract offers dont sign

Rhys Evans, Sean O'Hanlon, Rory Fallon etc....

the longer Ince takes to decide the less likely it is to happen in my opinion.

People know he is a free agent, so he should have had all the offers by now. I accept he has to look through them all...but again it seems like we've been in talks with him for weeks.

As for holidays, hes had since may to have a holiday....yet he chooses now.

Even if he signs after the Barnet game it will still take him a bit to get up to speed, when was the last time he even trained?
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:15:34 »

He hasn't had ages as he was in the running for the Wolves job.  

If he needs time, let's give him time.

I think it's a done deal and will be bitterly disappointed if this doesn't go ahead.
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:17:26 »

Also there's a difference between Rhys, Sean and Rory compared to Ince.  Money may not be the major factor here, more likely what role he is to have at the club will be the deciding factor.

Ince has got enough money after 4 or 5 high profile moves, I doubt a couple of grand is going to make that much difference in whether he comes to town or not.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:17:55 »

We have Evans for now ... Id play him instead of Pook just on the back of that match at Supermarine .. im sure some loans signings can be made if required ... surpried we havent actually
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:18:03 »

fair point, but i also remember the parkin deal took ages to complete did it not? don't really think length of time taken to make a decision is directly linked to them not signing for us, you just notice it more when they don't i suppose.

it's not just a case of looking at the small print, but deciding what he wants to do with his career and how he wants to end it and look to the future as well.

his kids wouldn't have finished school in may.

unless i'm mistaken, he was only told to leave wolves last week so would he not have had a full pre-season with them?
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:23:22 »

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fair point, but i also remember the parkin deal took ages to complete did it not? don't really think length of time taken to make a decision is directly linked to them not signing for us, you just notice it more when they don't i suppose.


Maybe, but remember when Dennis Wise came in....he all happened very very quickly. Same with most of the players this summer...off the top of my head I cant remember being linked with one, having the papers pick it up then said person signing a few weeks later. All the signings thus far have happened rather quickly, not stories of people stalling on contracts

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it's not just a case of looking at the small print, but deciding what he wants to do with his career and how he wants to end it and look to the future as well.


I think its rather obvious what he wants to do, after all he did just apply for the Wolves job, so his mind is defo on coaching/management

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his kids wouldn't have finished school in may.


I dont know the age of his kids...but you can take kids out of school....unless it was important years and they had exams

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unless i'm mistaken, he was only told to leave wolves last week so would he not have had a full pre-season with them?


Seems like weeks ago....and we keep getting news stories that all seem to be saying the same thing....'we've made contact and are in talks'
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:25:40 »

I think the coaching aspect is a serious carrot Wise can dangle which could be what pushes him to sign.

I wouldn't replace Pook with Evans so soon to be honest. Pook did well again Premiership Reading which is very hard to compare to Evans who played ok against a non league side.

Reading IMO was a biggest test of fitness and so far, Pook wins hands down for me.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:29:40 »

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Maybe, but remember when Dennis Wise came in....he all happened very very quickly. Same with most of the players this summer...off the top of my head I cant remember being linked with one, having the papers pick it up then said person signing a few weeks later. All the signings thus far have happened rather quickly, not stories of people stalling on contracts


again, there's no real way of proving whether there's a direct correlation between slow contract talks and not signing - unless reg wants to drag out some statistics Cool

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I think its rather obvious what he wants to do, after all he did just apply for the Wolves job, so his mind is defo on coaching/management


of course, but it's whether he wants to coach in the basement division, at a club with a good chance of regaining promotion to the premiership or just focusing on the possible role with england.

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I dont know the age of his kids...but you can take kids out of school....unless it was important years and they had exams


only if you're an irresponsible parent!

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Seems like weeks ago....and we keep getting news stories that all seem to be saying the same thing....'we've made contact and are in talks'


it was only confirmed on saturday was it not? that's less than a week.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:29:40 »

Fuck me your as obsessed as Sade !

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 16:31:46 »

Evans > Pook
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 17:03:57 »

TBH I see a move to Swindon as more high profile than moving to Brum or WBA...

The way I see it is if Ince comes to a small club with a reasonable chance of success this season then the world will be watching - if he has a big influence on training then people will take notice.  If he were at a bigger club amongst a greater number of coaches then he may stuggle to shine (in the eyes of the media/football world) as much as he may do here.

As a career choice I seriously have us down as favourites, plus he would be treated like an absolute hero here - at another Birmingham club he could end up just being the fella that used to play down the road - if that makes sense. :|
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 17:32:59 »

I’ve resisted the temptation to get my hopes up to much with Ince.  

What has always struck me as odd is that the rumours kicked of while he was still in the running for the Wolves job. He either knew early on that he was out of the running and or he had it lined up as his second option.

Reading into it a little and going from the press the offers from West Brom and Brum followed McCarthy’s appointment so realistically he’s faced with the decision to carry on as a player for another season or drops into that coaching role.  

The big difference being the wages, he was rumoured to be on about 12k a week with Wolves and presumably if he took the option to carry on playing he could probably earn something in the same region while moving to Town he’ll be taking a big drop in salary.  Plus it’s the decision to effectively draw a line under his playing career at the very top.  No doubt he’d be immense for us in the middle but putting the finances aside for a second it’s a decision on whether he wants to have one more crack at the whip before moving into coaching and management.

The reports of further talks next week are encouraging and probably the first time when something solid is put on the table.  Up until now it seems as if it’s been very much enquiries and testing the water but with so many positives to date it does look quite rosy indeed.
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 17:40:28 »

Bruce ruled out a move on Monday this week so it could be down to just West Brom who are rumoured to have offered a 2 year deal and ourselves...

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0200sport/globalsport/tm_objectid=17476580&method=full&siteid=50002&headline=bruce-goes-back-in-for-mcsheffrey-name_page.html

Not sure about the links to the England job but they seem to be just paper talk at the moment.

Fly in the ointment may be Brian Robson at West Brom who has strong connections with Ince from their United days.  But then again would Ince move to another midlands club after becoming a legend Wolves?

Hopefully the lure of a coaching role, provided West Brom don’t offer similar will be to good to refuse.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, August 3, 2006, 18:39:32 »

The Ince thing is a done deal. He will sign for us upon return from his family holiday. The fact Wise is one of his best mates in the game was a deciding factor.
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