Typical FIFA

[janaage]

Great quote from a bloke up the pub last night, talking of the french (he make have stolen this), we were talking about the monarchy, whether we should get rid of them or not, his wise words were

"Without the monarchy, we'd just be french"

[Devon Red]

Zidane has got off very lightly there. An insult about someones mum (not even a racist remark in this case) happens in playgrounds all over the world, and although not right, it also happens in every game as alan shearer said after the game. Also dint the original press comment from zz's agent say that the comments had been racist? Zidane is a cunt and should have got a much heftier fine due to him retiring.

[reeves4england]

The comments were not racist, both players confirmed that!!!

I think Zidane is entirely to blame. Headbutting somebody over a "your mum" joke?!

[Simon Pieman]

R4E - Your mum's so fat when she swims in the sea all the whales sing to her "we are family"

[wokinghamred]

So whats going to happen now ?

Everytime someone gets sent off for violent conduct, they're going to say , "but he insulted my mother", and there will have to be a FIFA enquiry ?

What a load of bollox !

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

I think they should have a foul football world cup. It would be ace.

I've thought for a long time that they should allow steroids and all the other illegal substances at the Olympics. Imagine the Olympic games with every fucker on drugs - the 100 metres in 5 seconds - high jumping over double decker buses.  I would pay to watch that :shock:

Any way - back the the subject in hand.......

[oxford_fan]

A bit of verbal is all part of the game, everyone knows that.

by the same logic, diving has always been around too so lets keep that in the game too

[janaage]

How is saying something to someone comparible with cheating to win free kicks/penalties?

Your arguement is seriously flawed.

Maybe FIFA should introduce a rule where players aren't allowed to speak during games in fear of upsetting someone.

[oxford_fan]

How is saying something to someone comparible with cheating to win free kicks/penalties?

Your arguement is seriously flawed.

if you point out the flaws i'll be glad to correct you.

personally insulting another player is against the rules of football just like cheating and both a completely unnecessary part of the game. just becuase 'its always been around' (which seems to be your only argument so far) is no reason for it to be acceptable or non-non-acceptable.

[Piemonte]

Its such a gay arguement OF.

Grown men should be able to take a bit of stick without nutting the perpatrator

Grown men should not fall over with no contact and writhe in fake agaony

[Amir]

I think this argument is getting away from the fact that it was a great headbutt.

If you're going to be that mouthy in any walk of life, then you should expect to get hit.  It's not as if he really hurt him is it ?

[janaage]

If you follow your arguement OF the world would be in chaos.  If everyone reacting to the slightest provocation every man woman and child on the planet would be headbutting/attacking everyone else.  

Winding someone up is not against the rules, as long as the abuse does not contravene the ungentlemanly conduct rule, in which case the offending player should be cautioned.  Repeat offenders should be sent off.  However in this case the referee heard nothing, the other officials heard nothing and TV evidence could not prove what Materazzi said.

All we know is Zidane used his head to attack Materazzi and was dismissed, in keeping with the rules.  Materazzi's ban is FIFA's pathetic way of trying to save Zidane's blushes.

If there was evidence of Materazzi racially abusing Zidane I'd agree that a ban was needed, however as far as I can see FIFA have banned him on a whim.

[oxford_fan]

Its such a gay arguement OF.

Grown men should be able to take a bit of stick without nutting the perpatrator

Grown men should not fall over with no contact and writhe in fake agaony

the perpatrators shouldnt be so pussy and gay as to resort to personal insults. just get on with the bloody game.

[janaage]

the perpatrators shouldnt be so pussy and gay as to resort to personal insults. just get on with the bloody game.

Is that an official FIFA statement?  

[oxford_fan]

If you follow your arguement OF the world would be in chaos.  If everyone reacting to the slightest provocation every man woman and child on the planet would be headbutting/attacking everyone else.

you've extrapolated from my words here, i'm not saying that everyone should take retribution for every little thing said, i'm saying that if you do start mouthing off then you can't complain if someone does something about it. then if the matter goes to a disciplinary hearing you don't have much of a comeback because you instigated the physical retribution. you can't fine and ban the man who took action but let the mouthy one off with nothing - if he'd not said what he did then zidanes actions wouldn' have followed. punish the one who knocked him one and the one who caused him to, as both are against the rules.

All we know is Zidane used his head to attack Materazzi and was dismissed, in keeping with the rules.  Materazzi's ban is FIFA's pathetic way of trying to save Zidane's blushes.

i'm certainly not disputing that zidanes dismissal was not "in keeping with the rules". it was obviously a red card.

no, what we know from the replays is that materazzi grabbed zidane and his shirt, zidane says something then materazzi says 3 things which eventually piss off a player enough to end his last ever football match and the world cup final early.

materazzis ban is fifas was of pointing out that you should just play football, keep your mouth shut and not antagonise other players.

the perpatrators shouldnt be so pussy and gay as to resort to personal insults. just get on with the bloody game.

Is that an official FIFA statement?  

more or less, yep. thats the message they're sending out by punishing materazzi too.