Racism

[Sussex]

It's just the same as describing someone as tall, fat, ginger, pasty...

But you're not tall

Grrrrrrr :x

Sorry Dave :gay:

[McLovin]

That's okay honey.

[Bennett]

white is a bad term, you've offended me

Nice try, but I was only using the terminology of the original message. Personally I think white is useless as a descriptor.

Many Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Canadians, U.S.Citizens, English, Scots, Irish, Norwegians, Swedes, Finns, Danes, Germans, Poles, Czechs, Austrians, Hungarians, Slovaks, Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Russians, Kosovars, Greeks, Moldovans, Turks, Cypriots, Maltese, Italians, French, Spanish, Potuguese etc etc etc ...
...are white

Are they all the same?

doesn't make it right though does it? i think as you're trying to educate you should have set an example and only posted the correct term.

to be fair leggett is german and they're atleast 12 years behind us

[Bushey Boy]

The word racist is used far to much.

[Dorset Red]

...as you're trying to educate you should have set an example and only posted the correct term...

to be fair leggett is german and they're atleast 12 years behind us

So what would be the correct term? :?

As for Leggett being German, it shouldn't really make any difference but I do accept there are certain problems and attitudes in Germany that leave a bit to be desired.

Truth is, racism is still rife in most, if not all communities. Occasionally over the last three decades it did look like we were starting to beat it, but it's on the rise again. Sometimes I despair (and I don't claim to be perfect) but I will always try to challenge it whenever I see it.

[Bennett]

i was under the impression caucasian was the term to describe us glorious proud "whitey's"

leggett is not only german but very special bless him. he thinks he's a POW

[magicroundabout]

sorry to state the obvious here but we all live in England and therefore should be allowed to fly our countries flag.

for those people who don't like it then fuck off back to your own country, whether they be Welsh, Scotish, Asian or German.

they either like it or fucking lump it

[Dorset Red]

i was under the impression caucasian was the term to describe us glorious proud "whitey's"

leggett is not only german but very special bless him. he thinks he's a POW

I did think of using the term Caucasian but decided against it as it does include ethnic groups that some people on this forum might not consider to be "white" (such as Kurds for example). Thaught it might cause even more confusion.

[Dorset Red]

sorry to state the obvious here but we all live in England and therefore should be allowed to fly our countries flag.

I agree to a certain extent and I would reinforce my opinion that the manager concerned in this incident had acted like a tosser!

Can I just ask two questions though?
1. Do you think "English" people have the right to fly the St George's cross flag abroad without fear of repercussions?
2. Do you think foreign nationals and people descended from foreign settlers should have the right to fly THEIR national flags in this country withou fear of repercussions?

I hope your answer to both questions is YES.

[Bushey Boy]

sorry to state the obvious here but we all live in England and therefore should be allowed to fly our countries flag.

for those people who don't like it then fuck off back to your own country, whether they be Welsh, Scotish, Asian or German.

they either like it or fucking lump it

spot on there magic, this is political correctness gone mad.

[magicroundabout]

sorry to state the obvious here but we all live in England and therefore should be allowed to fly our countries flag.

I agree to a certain extent and I would reinforce my opinion that the manager concerned in this incident had acted like a tosser!

Can I just ask two questions though?
1. Do you think "English" people have the right to fly the St George's cross flag abroad without fear of repercussions?
2. Do you think foreign nationals and people descended from foreign settlers should have the right to fly THEIR national flags in this country withou fear of repercussions?

I hope your answer to both questions is YES.

of course my answer is yes as i feel it only right that people support there home country. That was never my point.
My point was those people who are not of English origin getting offended by us flying our national flag in OUR OWN COUNTRY.

if i was living in France (for PC stake) and they all started flying there flags for there country i wouldn't even dream about complaining.

As Bushey said it's PC gone mad.

[Dorset Red]

spot on there magic, this is political correctness gone mad.

So, would you rather we were all politically incorrect? :old:

[Bushey Boy]

Damn right I would.  Didnt hurt our parents or grandparents back in the day.

[Dorset Red]

My point was those people who are not of English origin getting offended by us flying our national flag in OUR OWN COUNTRY.

OK. I don't know any of the people involved in this incident but how certain are you that the manager in question was NOT English? I know he was described as being Asian, but does that mean he is not English?

I'd be interested to hear your definition of English and how far back you think it is necessary to go to be able to consider somebody English?

Consider this example...
I am able to trace my family tree back over six hundred years. Every single one of the people I have researched have lived in England and were born here.... except the very earliest generation. I have discovered that in the 13th and 14th Centuries some came from Ireland, and the others from France. For that reason I would have to ask the question, AM I ENGLISH?

IF the 'Asian' manager does not count as being English, does that mean that I have to consider myself to be Franco-Irish?

Does it also mean that I lose any right to call this country my own and does it mean I should take down my England flag and replace it with the Irish and French Triclours?

This might seem an extreme example but my point is this. People need to think long and hard before they start making pronouncements about other people's national and ethnic identities!

[Dorset Red]

Didnt hurt our parents or grandparents back in the day.

YES it did. If you read your history books I think you'll find we fought wars to liberate and protect  people who were subject to discrimination and oppression (ie political INcorrectness). My grandfather was wounded twice in one of these wars. My uncle was wounded. My wife's uncle died!
I would say that means it DID hurt our parents and grandparents "back in the day".

Would YOU be happy to see Jewish people beaten up and murdered in the East End of London like they were in the 1930s? (Just before we fought a war we later justified because of what the Germans were doing to the Jews!)

Would you be happy to see people discriminated against simply because they have a different colour skin or speak a different language?

Would you be happy to accept that the "white Englsihman" is a superior 'master race'?

THAT'S what political incorrectness means. If people can't see that, they are falling into the hands of people like the BNP!