Was it a WISE decision?

[The Grim Reaper]

Ok excuse the pun. But after all the excitement and euphoria of Town appointing two big names as their new management team it got me thinking a little. First of all i'm sure the pair are going to be on a fairly large wedge of money between, more than Iffy and King combined I bet. I'm not really worried so much of that because its a sure bet thats being taken care of by Bill Power. Having really thought about it though, if it was me that was putting money into the club I might want to choose a manager who has a proven track record. Look at all the available managers we could have appointed instead. This is not supposed to be a negative post but I cant help feel we have been here before with messrs Evans and Ruddock. Hope i'm wrong and we have a blinding season but something inside tells me Wise and Poyet will QUIT before Christmas once the going gets to tough for them. You heard it here first.

[STFC Village]

if it was me that was putting money into the club I might want to choose a manager who has a proven track record. Look at all the available managers we could have appointed instead.

Care to name the alternatives (within reason)?

I'm not sure Bill Power even considered that we could get a manager of the calabre of Wise in the first place, hence it initially looking likely that Iffy would hold onto his job. Not that i'm saying that Wise is some kind of God-like managerial figure, but he's certainly the kind of manager that most people wouldn't have given us a chance of getting, despite the investment from BP, having been relegated to the lowest tier of League football.

[The Grim Reaper]

Wow a thread about Dennis Wise.... :shock:

Well he is the manager and this thread is in 'the management' part of the forum. What was you expecting gimp?

[Stef Troll]

At the end of the day, any appointment of any manager will be a gamble.  I personally thought it was time for Onoura to move on.  He was in charge of around 36 games, which was plenty enough games to keep us up, yet when the pressure was on,  Iffy crumbled.
         Granted people will suggest that Iffy inherited a crap team which was low on morale (etc).  However it seems as if Iffy is keen to offer contracts to the majority of players who got us relegated (Nicho, Jenkins, Ifil, etc) and keep a large majority of players who got us relegated.  Therefore, i struggle to find how Iffy will stamp his authority and noticeably improve team performances from last seasons display.

      Wise has a good track record with Millwall (FA Cup finalists as well as top half finishes with the club i think)  (Look at Millwalls demise since Wise has left).  I think Wise has the greater ability to work with average players, and turn then into good players.  I reckon for example, if Shakes and Ifil are in Wise's plans to play in the first team,  then they could really shine under Dennis Wise management and coaching abilities

[The Grim Reaper]

Iffy should never have been put in charge. That was an absolute scandal of a decision by the board. Your bottom of the table, you've just sacked your manager and there is just over half the season left what do you do? Well 99% of clubs get an experianced manager in to try and salvage whats left of the season and fight against the odds in the hope that you might just stay up. We, at Swindon on the other hand think along the lines: Hmmm, if we put that nice bloke who runs with the youth team around the park in charge we might save a few bob and if we go down we can blame him and no-one will question us.

[DV]

Dennis Wise' track record is fairly decent, but again has only been in management a short time.

As I've said before if you looked at Steve McMahons tracks record after 18 months, he would have looked like the best Brian Clough....now he is no where to be seen!

Purely on Wise' track record im not convinced, however you cant judge how he will do untill he is given a chance....judge him at Christmas....

[DMR]

Can't do any worse than Iffy.

[sonic youth]

you cant judge how he will do untill he is given a chance....judge him at Christmas....

to be honest, given the situation at the club i'd say hat unless we're in the bottom 4 by christmas, we've got to give him an entire season. we need stability.

[DV]

you cant judge how he will do untill he is given a chance....judge him at Christmas....

to be honest, given the situation at the club i'd say hat unless we're in the bottom 4 by christmas, we've got to give him an entire season. we need stability.

true, I agree of course we need to give him an entire season...infact probably about 3 of 'em....doesnt mean, we as fans cant attempt to judge him at Christmas though

[sonic youth]

agreed, you can make assumptions and judgements of his ability after about half a dozen games really.

i was just saying that peole shouldn't get on his back if he hasn't worked a miracle by xmas.

[Bedford Red]

Iffy should never have been put in charge. That was an absolute scandal of a decision by the board. Your bottom of the table, you've just sacked your manager and there is just over half the season left what do you do? Well 99% of clubs get an experianced manager in to try and salvage whats left of the season and fight against the odds in the hope that you might just stay up. We, at Swindon on the other hand think along the lines: Hmmm, if we put that nice bloke who runs with the youth team around the park in charge we might save a few bob and if we go down we can blame him and no-one will question us.

But that was done purely because we were still paying King so couldn't afford to take on anyone else. That's why Iffy was put into the manager's job. if Reeves hadn't broken his leg it would probably have been him.

And to all the people who say Wise hasn't got much experience, people have to start somewhere. We gambled on Macari, Ardiles and Hoddle for their first managerial posts and you could say they worked out pretty well.

[DV]

agreed, you can make assumptions and judgements of his ability after about half a dozen games really.

i was just saying that peole shouldn't get on his back if he hasn't worked a miracle by xmas.

which in all truth, was what I actually meant...just didnt make myself clear enough....actually I didnt even mention it...oh well....lack of sleep I think....whatever....

[DV]

We gambled on Macari, Ardiles and Hoddle for their first managerial posts and you could say they worked out pretty well.

Yup, but we also gambled on Iffy & Steve McMahon

[Bedford Red]

We gambled on Macari, Ardiles and Hoddle for their first managerial posts and you could say they worked out pretty well.

Yup, but we also gambled on Iffy & Steve McMahon

So 3 out of 5 worked then. Or 3 1/2 as McMahon was ok at the start, not bad odds.

[manc red]

As I've said before if you looked at Steve McMahons tracks record after 18 months, he would have looked like the best Brian Clough....now he is no where to be seen!

My mate at uni in Cardiff spotted him entering a strip club in Cardiff the week before the cup final