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danny121

« Reply #45 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 14:47:21 »

His finish against West Ham on Saturday was superb, far from "shite". Hes been unfortunate due to the form of Keane this season who has been on fire and Jol prefers the big man little man combo with Mido
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 14:48:32 »

Darren Bent should be in instead of Theo Walcott. The bloke has scored 22 goals this season in a 4-5-1 formation for an average team. Says it all really. Walcott should be back up instead of Johnson.
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« Reply #47 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 14:55:31 »

Wayne Rooney
Michael Owen
Peter Crouch
Theo Walcott

So Crouch and Walcott up front then :-))(
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my-velocity

« Reply #48 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 14:57:11 »

Paul Robinson

Gary Neville
Rio Ferdinand
John Terry
Ashley Cole

David Beckham
Frank Lampard
Steven Gerrard
Joe Cole or Aaaron Lennon

Michael Owen (If fit)
Peter Crouch
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« Reply #49 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:01:50 »

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Darren Bent should be in instead of Theo Walcott. The bloke has scored 22 goals this season in a 4-5-1 formation for an average team. Says it all really. Walcott should be back up instead of Johnson.


Didnt see the friendly he played in then?, "what am i doing here!" must have gone through his head for the entire time he was on the pitch.
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« Reply #50 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:01:56 »

I believe downing will be more down to maclaren.
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danny121

« Reply #51 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:15:39 »

No i disagree, theres is a lack of players on the left, the only other options would have been richardson, neville or poss bridge, Downings been the only natural left wingers we have whos been on form
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McLovin

« Reply #52 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:21:10 »

I don't get it. A few of my grumblings include:

 - Campbell is way past his best, and is a mental and physical wreck
 - Walcott. Oh dear. Defoe and Bent should have been streets ahead of him in the pecking order
 - Hargreaves. Spent most of the season injured, and never turns it on for England
 - Jenas. Yeah, he's been okay this season, but is he really England material?
 - 4 strikers only, regardless of their fitness, isn't enough, IMO.

Gotta find some positives, i guess, so:

 - Glad SWP isn't going (and pleased Lennon is instead)
 - Glad Carrick is going too
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« Reply #53 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:27:10 »

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How the fuck can anyone be happy that Walcott is in the squad! Hes never played a fucking premiership game! Hes never even played for U21! Bents scored 20prem goals! So if Rooney and Owen dont make first game were left with Crouch and Walcott!! Its fucking stupit
If Rooney is definitely injured Defoe will go. I'd happily start with Crouch and have Walcott as a sub. Hopefully Owen will be fit.
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danny121

« Reply #54 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:36:55 »

If media reports are anything to go by, it sounds as if rooney will be fit but not for the first game, possibly not even second, however i think hel stil go.  Owen as well is stuggling to be fit for first game but will stil go. This will mean theres a possibilty of only having Crouch and Walcott fit for opening game
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« Reply #55 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:38:56 »

Personally I would have liked to see Darren Bent in the squad as he's played as a lone striker with good results for Charlton. Could be an option for 4-5-1 if Rooney + Owen aren't fit. Maybe even a case for putting Defoe in the squad, although his form over the season hasn't been too great. I would have stuck King in also, as he's looked good when he's played for England.

Walcott could be an amazing decision or an amazingly stupid one. My guess is Sven intends for him to be a super-sub of the Vassel variety, bit of pace thrown up front when everyone is knackered. Could work a treat. If Owen/Rooney aren't fit then Sven will play 4-5-1 with Petey C as a lone attacker. That's my guess anyway.

Next rant: Owen fucking Hargreaves. Seriously, what is the point in this cunt being in the squad. He has hardly played in one position for more than 5 minutes and hasn't shown anything close to International quality. He may have potential, or he may not. That's Sven's fault for not trialing him properly. Should be kept out for this reason.

Downing is a good choice as he's shown a bit of form on his return but has been slow getting there. We need a left footed midfielder though. SWP hasn't been playing too well, whereas Lennon has been, so I agree with that choice. Carrick is a must as well.

So all in all, I don't think it's too bad. The midfield is class and apart from Hargreaves is probably what I would have picked. Defence is fine from a selection point of view but this attacking crisis has magnified Sven's genius/madness.
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« Reply #56 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:40:50 »

I'll stand by Owen Hargreaves - He can play in various positions. He starts for Bayern Munich which cannot be ignored and has been there/done that qualities.

YES, I agree he's been poor but Sven has fielded him at the wrong times ie Norn Irn when chasing the game.

Hargreaves has got...

World Club Cup 2001
Champions League 2001 (scored in the penalty shoot-out)
German championship 2001, 2003, 2005, 2006
German Cup 2003, 2005
League Cup 2004
appeared at 2002 World Cup and Euro 2004

This is a brilliant day for England fans in a way because the conversations will not end now... He could have picked a boring squad, but didn't!
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danny121

« Reply #57 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:41:52 »

The reasoning behind kings obmission is his injury, dont think Sven would of wanted to have another player with no match fitness, shame though as hes always looked good for England and can play that vital holding role when needed
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« Reply #58 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:43:31 »

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If media reports are anything to go by, it sounds as if rooney will be fit but not for the first game, possibly not even second, however i think hel stil go.  Owen as well is stuggling to be fit for first game but will stil go. This will mean theres a possibilty of only having Crouch and Walcott fit for opening game
In which case play Crouch up front with Gerrard, Lampard or Joe Cole behind him and Walcott as a sub.

That would be still be a great team, Walcott was very impressive in the championship and could prove to be a good gamble.
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« Reply #59 on: Monday, May 8, 2006, 15:43:32 »

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I'll stand by Owen Hargreaves - He can play in various positions. He starts for Bayern Munich which cannot be ignored and has been there/done that qualities.

YES, I agree he's been poor but Sven has fielded him at the wrong times ie Norn Irn when chasing the game.

Hargreaves has got...

World Club Cup 2001
Champions League 2001 (scored in the penalty shoot-out)
German championship 2001, 2003, 2005, 2006
German Cup 2003, 2005
League Cup 2004
appeared at 2002 World Cup and Euro 2004


For that reason I wouldn't put him in there. I mean will Sven do anything different to what he's already done?
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