Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 20:04:54 » |
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You need to beware the we're too big for this league crap....its what the scum have been doing for about 7 seasons now, living in a fantasy land where they're promoted by Christmas.
It tends to have an insidious effect, so, for example the manager who came closest for them Atkins was hounded out by fans who thought they were better than his hoofball style.
To turn us around may take a while firstly the CVA needs sorting and getting rid of, then some progress needs making on the CG front, to firstly get an agreement then see some substance....until then we've no hope of going anywhere quickly.
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 20:20:38 » |
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I agree with Reg, Things need to change at this club before we can get back up and solidify. Next season the aim should be top half and to get a ground sorted
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 22:47:20 » |
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Does anyone else think we're be the biggest club in that league?
I'm not saying football wise, i mean by history, ground, finance, support etc...
I can only think of Rovers and Notts County as maybe equal? no, no, no and no. we're a small club. face it. |
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 22:58:56 » |
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I also have to agree with reg. It's very easy to draw similarites to our current situation to that of when we got relegated down to div 2. Everyone was excited about the Brady investment and there was a general feeling we'd do pretty well. Of course we didn't.
Opening game of the season was a pretty uninspiring 0-0 draw with colchester with the only highlight watching a pretty lively lua-lua. Of course things didn't get much better.
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 23:14:30 » |
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we are the only former prem team to drop through the divisions Don't get too carried away with this "first prem. club to go all the way down" stuff. We only have that honour because we're the first to do it since the top division changed it's name to the Premiership. However, we are not the first club to go from the top division to the bottom. For example, Notts County used to be in the top division, as did Oxford, and I'm sure a certain club from Bristol managed to plummet down all four divisions long before we did!!!!! Chins up people!  |
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 08:33:09 » |
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we are the only former prem team to drop through the divisions Don't get too carried away with this "first prem. club to go all the way down" stuff. We only have that honour because we're the first to do it since the top division changed it's name to the Premiership. However, we are not the first club to go from the top division to the bottom. For example, Notts County used to be in the top division, as did Oxford, and I'm sure a certain club from Bristol managed to plummet down all four divisions long before we did!!!!! Chins up people! City did do that, in 3 seasons, straight down. That was very impressive! |
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 10:24:21 » |
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To be fair though Reg although it is history, the clubs you mentioned have been a lot lower than us in the last 30 40 years, like Bury's FA Cup wins in 1900 and 1903 :shock: over a 100 years ago before world war one ffs. But still I agree we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, but certainly should expect to at least play at our historical level, which is league one. But as shown in the last 20 years or so we should really aim for the championship.
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 12:55:16 » |
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Does anyone else think we're be the biggest club in that league?
I'm not saying football wise, i mean by history, ground, finance, support etc...
I can only think of Rovers and Notts County as maybe equal? no, no, no and no. we're a small club. face it. Not by league 2 standards. |
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 12:57:14 » |
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although I agree with Ralphus, certainly in my time we've always been alot high up the football ladder than the teams we now find ourselves surrounded by....but on that note....the size of club gets you nothing really
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 13:00:45 » |
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I agree size of club gets you nowhere, pitch success does.
What i meant was we're a big club for that league.
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 13:04:43 » |
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We are fairly big as far as potential fan base goes. If we are doing well we can get much bigger crowds than some.
However I don't think it will make a huge overall difference to the football next season
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 14:27:22 » |
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we've had an average home attendance of 5,000ish all season, dropping below average on a few occasions. we've not won anything since 96 and even oxford have been in the top division and won the league cup as well.
depending on how power invests his money, we may be one of the better bank-rolled sides in league 2 though.
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 14:31:29 » |
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If you look at the average attendances for the most recently completed season, when we still had an outside chance of L1 PO's, our 5800 average is less than at least four in L2 that season, and is about the same as Grimsby Lincoln and Notts County, none of whom had a decent season.
Historically relegation costs about 1000 fans ....so if we average about 4500 next season...that puts us in a bracket with the likes of Wycombe, Darlo, and Shrewsbury.
There are a number of traditionally non league clubs like O*ford, Macclesfield, Boston, Cheltnum etc who will get smaller crowds than us.
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« Reply #28 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 18:24:40 » |
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« Reply #29 on: Sunday, April 30, 2006, 23:31:42 » |
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big club? FFS :evil: A Big club BY LEAGUE 2 STANDARDS! Read my original post!!!!! |
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