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« Reply #15 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:00:26 » |
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Don't be so pessimistic. This is just a minor blip. We may not be back for a few years but a great club like this one will one day be challenging for the top flight once again even if it's not for some years. it's stuff like that which makes me think you're an oxford fan on a wind-up :? No, I believe it. We went right back down to division 4 back in the early 80's and then shot straight back up through the leagues, it's not easy but if you get on a roll it's possible, teams like Southend who were at the bottom of division 3/league 2 for years now look like getting successive promotions. If we go down this year, as long as we can survive on the financial tightrope then there's no reason why we can't come back up and then go up again at some point even if it's not for 10 years or more.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:02:51 » |
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Invariably you do need a big name manager to do that. If you look at all out success in the past 20 years we've had a name that attracts players. Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, McMahon, Todd, Evans all big names in football. Onuora sadly is not.
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:07:28 » |
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I think Reg has a valid point with regards to Iffy wanting to prove himself and I think he can do it.
Iffy has had poor circumstances to take over this club this season. Andy King leaving during the season was the main factor but considering King did not motivate the team, Iffy had not only to remotivate players but also bring in new players on virtually no budget. Players didn't get paid, stadium plans dissolved, not much has really gone right for him. If he is able to keep us up this season then he IMO is more than worthy of managing this club next season.
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:09:44 » |
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I also would keep Iffy. Can't see anyone else turning it around, though if somehow we could attract a big name player manager i think it would be worth considering.
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:11:57 » |
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Invariably you do need a big name manager to do that. If you look at all out success in the past 20 years we've had a name that attracts players. Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, McMahon, Todd, Evans all big names in football. Onuora sadly is not. What attracts players is a fat wage packet...very little to do with the name negotiating it. Back in the day we were known as a club that paid high wages....we're now known as a club that pays (not always on time) low wages.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:14:53 » |
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Perhaps, but a named manager raises the profile of the club immediately. For example Ardiles and the likes of Lorenzo, of course there is the argentine connection but just the name of Ardiles was a plus in attracting better players.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:27:36 » |
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Invariably you do need a big name manager to do that. If you look at all out success in the past 20 years we've had a name that attracts players. Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, McMahon, Todd, Evans all big names in football. Onuora sadly is not. Sorry, what exactly did Todd and/or Evans do for this club?
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 14:31:38 » |
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Not saying those two in particular did, just saying they were big names in football. Evans brought along Ruddock with him and was promised bigger things, however they never had enough time here anyway.
Though with the main 4 who did achieve some success they were all names in football.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:00:34 » |
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the only reason Hoddle did so well as a manager here was because he was still an awesome player and one of the most talented players to ever grace the Swindon shirt....
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:01:22 » |
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No, that's just one of the reasons why he did so well. He also signed quality players like Taylor and Moncur - that has nothing to do with being a player and everything to do with being a manager.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:03:52 » |
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Regm you sometimes speak sense, but you are extremely nagative in your comments. Whenever I read one of your posts, I feel like ending it all. 
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:05:24 » |
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Regm you sometimes speak sense, but you are extremely nagative in your comments. Whenever I read one of your posts, I feel like ending it all.  Don't let me stop you.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:07:11 » |
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No, that's just one of the reasons why he did so well. He also signed quality players like Taylor and Moncur - that has nothing to do with being a player and everything to do with being a manager. Sorry I must have slept through his large amouts of glory at Chelsea, England, Southampton and Spurs...
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 16:15:41 » |
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No, that's just one of the reasons why he did so well. He also signed quality players like Taylor and Moncur - that has nothing to do with being a player and everything to do with being a manager. Sorry I must have slept through his large amouts of glory at Chelsea, England, Southampton and Spurs... Must've done. Hoddle was a succesful England manager and this when the team didn't have half as many world class players as we do now, if it wasn't for Beckham's stupidity we could have done very well at the 98 world cup. He did well at Chelsea, signing players like Ruud Gullit and reaching the fa cup final and very well at Southampton. He was sacked much too early into the season at Spurs where he didn't have a lot of money to spend which was a shame but helped build the basis of what is now proving to be a great side by signing players like Robbie Keane.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, April 6, 2006, 21:41:16 » |
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By my reckoning Beckham has cost 2 tournaments and got us into one. As this will probably be his last he better fucking produce...
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