What's fresh with these new plans?

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

why didnt we just have these plans in first place  :-))( good work Pauld

[dogs]

If it went down to 10,000 just to have 'a new stadium' i'd probably just say knock the whole lot down and don't bother rebuilding it. Absolute waste of time.

[DV]

If it went down to 10,000 just to have 'a new stadium' i'd probably just say knock the whole lot down and don't bother rebuilding it. Absolute waste of time.

the capacity will be increased....not decreased  :roll:

[dogs]

Not saying it wouldn't, just looking at what Reg posted and saying what I feel on that.

[reeves4england]

I would rather build a ground around the current size. We CAN get bigger crowds than 10,000 when going well as proven a couple of years ago. It would be ridiculous to assume that we would never fill a slightly smaller stadium

[Reg Smeeton]

Not saying it wouldn't, just looking at what Reg posted and saying what I feel on that.

 Surely if the idea is get income streams for other than match day....then having a space which is effectively dead makes no sense....it should be possible to build into it the possibility of expanding capacity should it be necessary, much the same way that Reading are going to 40,000, if they stay up next season

[dogs]

Well I agree, but having a capacity that low would be counter-productive. I think all teams who have built a new bigger stadium have gone on to get much higher average attendances and have achieved a degree of success -of course you could just argue that it's the success on the pitch not the stadium that draws in a crowd, though looking at Reading when they finished 2nd in 95 didn't always sell out and that was at shitty elm park, much lower than the madejski.

[Reg Smeeton]

Think the evidence is a new ground generates some new fans, but they drop off if the product isn't good.....we wouldn't be getting a new ground as such though.

[DV]

extra capacity doesnt mean dead space....means we would pack more people in for say a concert.....might attract better acts because its a bigger venue etc

[Reg Smeeton]

extra capacity doesnt mean dead space....means we would pack more people in for say a concert.....might attract better acts because its a bigger venue etc

 We have one concert a year....nobody uses the bank for it. Next.

[DV]

extra capacity doesnt mean dead space....means we would pack more people in for say a concert.....might attract better acts because its a bigger venue etc

 We have one concert a year....nobody uses the bank for it. Next.

currently we have one concert a year...currently nobody uses the bank for it.

[Reg Smeeton]

extra capacity doesnt mean dead space....means we would pack more people in for say a concert.....might attract better acts because its a bigger venue etc

 We have one concert a year....nobody uses the bank for it. Next.

currently we have one concert a year...currently nobody uses the bank for it.

 The only realistic way you could have more, than say another one, would be to build a concert hall into the ground...which I believe Coventry have done.

  Don't think there is the space at the CG site....without going outside the footprint.

[The Grim Reaper]

I'm not a designer by any means but if you look at our Nationwide Stand you can see how much 'space' is wasted underneath it. Surely its possible to knock down The Town End, The Arkell's Stand and The Bank and build three new stands similar to The Nationwide but utilize the space underneath to accomodate such requirements the club wishes to generate non-matchday income. When we say the crrent footprint of the County Ground does that include the car park and all the little buildings down by the County Ground Hotel?

[reeves4england]

I presume it means only the ground and the car park. The buildings by the CGH would need seperate planning surely?

[Reg Smeeton]

I'm not a designer by any means but if you look at our Nationwide Stand you can see how much 'space' is wasted underneath it. Surely its possible to knock down The Town End, The Arkell's Stand and The Bank and build three new stands similar to The Nationwide but utilize the space underneath to accomodate such requirements the club wishes to generate non-matchday income. When we say the crrent footprint of the County Ground does that include the car park and all the little buildings down by the County Ground Hotel?

 The problem is likely to be coming up against all the minor planning regs...which dictate the access and egress of emergency vehicles etc.

 The Nwide stand being a classic example of how the local situation dictated a thin structure within the trees which locals fought for planting probably about 30 years ago.

  So the space under the NWide isn't really of much use fir anything substantial, but could be by using the strip of grass in Shrivenham Road..

 I think its entirely possible to tart up the CG on its present site, but can't see how too much in the way of significant income generators could be built in...unless its something like Rikki's Casino.