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« on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:02:29 »

Who do you want?

I personally think it has to be someone English: thus I have Curbishley, McLaren, Allardyce and Pearce.

Secondly, I want a character, a bit of an inspiration; in my book ruling out boring Curbs and McLaren.

So I'm thinking Allardyce or Pearce, and I'd go for Pearce because the thought of a physical, tough England with Kevin Davies up front is a bit depressing.

Pearce for me then, ignore the inexperience, you'd want to play for this bloke I reckon.
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« Reply #1 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:05:40 »

Guus Hiddinck would do.

 None of the English candidates are realistic....but if we have to have one then Pearce at least has played international football.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:06:49 »

I'd like to see Pearce develop himself as a manager at club level first. I can imagine him going to the England job and if it doesn't work out stuffing up his career for some time. I'd prefer him as England manager, just don't think it's for the best at this time.

Don't want Curbishley or McLaren.

I keep thinking no way to Allardyce but then change my mind every now and again. If he makes England play like Bolton I don't want him. But I don't think he will given the resources available. He has obviously worked out that a team on Bolton's budget will fair well in the league if they play that physical (and very dull football).
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« Reply #3 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:08:16 »

Do you reckon it's that harder job?

I mean that all the techincal staff deal with the training, medical staff with fitness etc. and the team pretty much picks itself, there's 8 or 9 players in this squad who could pretty much walk into any side in the world.

Or am I being a bit naive?
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« Reply #4 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:10:03 »

That's where tactics and motivation come into play. Which is why I wouldn't pick AC or SM
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« Reply #5 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:11:47 »

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Do you reckon it's that harder job?

I mean that all the techincal staff deal with the training, medical staff with fitness etc. and the team pretty much picks itself, there's 8 or 9 players in this squad who could pretty much walk into any side in the world.

Or am I being a bit naive?
The problem with Allerdyce is he isn't much of a coach. He does not bring players up, he buys in experience. This is why I think he is not the best candidate for the job.

Pearce sounds appealing but he is relatively inexperienced and may want to build up a career at club level before going onto the international stage. A tough one
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:12:20 »

i think you're being hugely naive  Cheesy

an englishman would be preferable but let's face it, none of the top managers in the premiership or anywhere else in the world are english and if success is neccesary, then you choose the best that's available regardless of nationality.

guus hiddinck's done well at international level, took south korea to the semi's(?) last time round. scolari's a quality bloke and wouldn't look out of place in my local to be fair.

i'd love to see pearce in charge but the fact is that he's not experienced enough. maybe in time for the next world cup.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:13:15 »

Again, I might be being naive but I think an England side should pretty much be able to work out tactics for themselves. I'd get someone in who really gets them going and fired up... look no further than Pearce.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:14:07 »

Clearly the tactics haven't been sorting themselves out for ages  :-))(
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« Reply #9 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:16:26 »

Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
Do you reckon it's that harder job?

I mean that all the techincal staff deal with the training, medical staff with fitness etc. and the team pretty much picks itself, there's 8 or 9 players in this squad who could pretty much walk into any side in the world.

Or am I being a bit naive?


  Its an almost impossible job...we have some useful players, but they don't have a winnning mentality as a collective group.

 In order to get that given the circumstances of availabilty and fitness etc is very difficult.

 Managers like Curbishley Allardyce etc don't have it and don't really understand it.

 That's why we should pick the best for the job...Scoalri would be a viable candidate, apart from his English is poorish.

 Fabio Cappello would be another.....but Hiddinck is available and has a good track record of success, including WC experience.
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« Reply #10 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:21:04 »

A couldn't care less where the new man comes from.

But I hope it's not  Curbishley, McLaren or Allardyce. They just haven't achieved enough in management for me. I'd be as underwhelmed as the day we appointed Turnip. I think the job is at least 4 years too early for Pearce. He just needs a bit more experience.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:22:07 »

So, you'd want someone who has already managed at international level? That's fair enough, I can see why that's an advantage.

Interestingly no-ones mentioned O'Neill.
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« Reply #12 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:22:37 »

Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
Again, I might be being naive but I think an England side should pretty much be able to work out tactics for themselves. I'd get someone in who really gets them going and fired up... look no further than Pearce.


these people are premiership footballers, of course they can't work out the tactics themselves. i'd be surprised if any of them how to use a fucking tin opener.

motivation is definitely an issue and was probably one of the biggest problems under sven. the only thing he could motivate me to do is fall into a coma.

perhaps a scolari/pearce combination would be good, doubt it'd work though.

i think o'neill is out of the equation due to his wife. the fact he's northern irish doesn't help either.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:23:40 »

I think we should go for hiddink with pearce as assistant to fire people up and learn on the job.can't write a long explanation as my boss has just walked in
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« Reply #14 on: Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:26:11 »

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i think o'neill is out of the equation due to his wife. the fact he's northern irish doesn't help either.


Hasn't he already declared himself available again?
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