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« on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 18:21:06 » |
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Keep to his pledge of withdrawing from Iraq when he wins the election(looks certain now).
Got me thinking what a joke it is that one person winning or losing an election could change the situation in Iraq so radicly.
Without going into the rights and wrongs of us and the USA being there it seems ridiculous to me that the next regime can be totaly different to the last.If they pull out will Iraq fall back into turmoil....the U.N wont keep the peace so at the end of the day thousands of lives have been lost for nothing if this happens,US,UK and Iraqi people most of whom were innocent.
Obviously Obama will win many votes for pledging this and only time will tell i spose what kind of president he makes but surely hes playing russian roulette with the people of Iraq who want a free nation.
Apologies for a depresing subject on a Friday but its a topic that gets people yakkin.
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« Reply #1 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 18:22:25 » |
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Finish the job now they've gone there. Can't just abandon the people.
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« Reply #2 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 18:41:31 » |
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I dont think its as clear cut an Obama win as the polls suggest.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 18:55:59 » |
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Paddy Power are already paying out on Obama.
*cough* publicity stunt *cough.
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« Reply #4 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 19:00:10 » |
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Still a long why to go in the elections, in regards to the point you make leefer i believe he would be wrong to withdraw.After watching a few documentarys our troops think they have 10 years at least out there still. On a seperate note i think the newly opened debate regarding immigration will ultimatly decide who wins it. I dont think its as clear cut an Obama win as the polls suggest. |
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« Reply #5 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 19:23:07 » |
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Paddy Power are already paying out on Obama.
*cough* publicity stunt *cough.
PP are the kings of the publicty stunt |
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« Reply #6 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 20:08:50 » |
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if he wins he will be dead by inaugaration, sad but true.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 20:14:19 » |
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So you threaten coxy if he leaves have you got a bet on mccain mex?
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« Reply #8 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 20:15:32 » |
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So you threaten coxy if he leaves have you got a bet on mccain mex?
I'm too scared to go anywhere with that gringo after me....... |
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« Reply #9 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 21:39:29 » |
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Keep to his pledge of withdrawing from Iraq when he wins the election(looks certain now).
Got me thinking what a joke it is that one person winning or losing an election could change the situation in Iraq so radicly.
Without going into the rights and wrongs of us and the USA being there it seems ridiculous to me that the next regime can be totaly different to the last.
Erm, isn't that the whole point of democracy? That you can change the regime and with it policies you disagree with? FWIW, yeovil's point re this being tighter than it looks from the polls is probably sound. There was an interesting piece in The Times about Obama's poll support as against his real support being skewed by the "Bradley effect" - the tendency of white voters to claim they will vote for a black candidate rather than a white candidate for fear of being thought racist (or, more interestingly, because they don't want the poll analysis to show 75% of whites will vote against the black candidate) then actually voting for his opponent. For once, Wikipedia actually has a reasonable article on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect |
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« Reply #10 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 21:48:15 » |
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There was an interesting piece in The Times about Obama's poll support as against his real support being skewed by the "Bradley effect" I don't believe for a second that you read The Times  |
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« Reply #11 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 23:04:23 » |
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I don't believe for a second that you read The Times Did too. It was in the kitchen at work - well, a colleague read it out to me, and I followed the words with my finger  |
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« Reply #12 on: Friday, October 17, 2008, 23:24:03 » |
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You are all mad, it all depends on steve the plumber, not on policies, parties, or personalities.
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 07:58:48 » |
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Im with Mex, if he gets elected i think he'll be dead within a year. Again Sad, but true
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 09:42:21 » |
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Erm, isn't that the whole point of democracy? That you can change the regime and with it policies you disagree with?
Sort of. Isn't it more about choosing the party with the best lies*? I mean, manifestos are for entertainment purposes only aren't they. They never really get actioned. * Except the mayor of London, clearly chosen on who has the stupidest hair. |
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