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Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:35:52
I'd kind of hoped that the club would be prepared to pay and invest in young talent. We have bought other players for 'undisclosed fees', not sure why UGM couldn't have been another. Unless they are keen to move Lavs on i guess.

Because we have lost the pot and are pissing on the floor now.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:39:56
Do you mean Cowley that the management team are not happy they have not got who they wanted in due to restrictions or you referring to just overall morale at the club?

Are there transfer restrictions in place (imposed on the club) or are you referring to the lack of funds?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Cowley38 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:40:21
Hasn't been since day1 unfortunately has it :no:

First season under Morfuni all was good at the club..

Since then a downward spiral

Moral, financial , on the pitch

Can see how much lower it will get


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:43:49
First season under Morfuni all was good at the club..

Since then a downward spiral

Moral, financial , on the pitch

Can see how much lower it will get

And why is that?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:50:46
The only rumbling I have heard is that Clem will not put any more money into the club and is enforcing that we work within our budgets.

It definitely looks like he is getting his people in to take charge now.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:51:38
Double edged sword.
A couple of us were talking about this on Saturday, massive town with poor support in comparison. I'm not saying everyone should attend the games but why can we only get 9k? The more support we had the better the coffers the better the budget. We often laugh at teams with 2-3000 gates but those sides are local to many more sides in and around Manchester there are plenty to choose from in the NW. Poor from the towns folk too.
If the town back the club the owner(s) will too

Too many plastic glory hunters judging by the amount of Prem shirts I see around town. Been like that for years though.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:52:07
The only rumbling I have heard is that Clem will not put any more money into the club and is enforcing that we work within our budgets.

It definitely looks like he is getting his people in to take charge now.

Nothing wrong with that.

I imagine the whole Sandro, Morris and Brand sackings have cost a few quid too.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 14:55:20
The only rumbling I have heard is that Clem will not put any more money into the club and is enforcing that we work within our budgets.

It definitely looks like he is getting his people in to take charge now.

Seems fair and has always been the aim.

However unless the clubs ups their income stream somehow that basically condemns us to league 2 for some time, which is just grim.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:03:20

As someone who has first hand dealings with people at the club and dealings in the transfer world...

All is not a bed of roses within....


Tell us more,    If you dare ÖÖ..


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:04:52
Quote from: Quagmire

I imagine the whole Sandro, Morris and Brand sackings have cost a few quid too.

which dickhead employed them in the first place? (I've no idea, I assume Angus but I've no idea)

moot anyway, has seemed like Clem has reached his limit or beyond since January.

Worrying imo.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:06:39
Too many plastic glory hunters judging by the amount of Prem shirts I see around town. Been like that for years though.

They're the ones you need to turn into Town fans, and believe me, they will turn if there is a half decent proposition available within the town.

I live in Swansea, grew up with Man U, Liverpool, Arse supporters because Swansea were shit - lower attendances than us. Fast forward to now and they all support Swansea, getting 17500 in the Championship. I know they have a new stadium, but they didn't splash the cash by any means to get to where they are now. Some clever management and running of the club would see those plastics turn for sure.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:08:39
Too many plastic glory hunters judging by the amount of Prem shirts I see around town. Been like that for yearsr though.

You're lucky to see plastic glory hunters whenever I go near Town its certainly not football supporters of any club that I see loitering around!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:23:06
Cowley BS as per


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:25:10
I'd been told Godwin-Malife and Edwards were done, and they were waiting on Young to announce them all together. Who the hell knows at this point.


So it's 4.40pm What are you being told now Riddick?
The Edwards mentions on here go from hot to cold. No smoke without fire.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:27:37
Nothing wrong with that.

I imagine the whole Sandro, Morris and Brand sackings have cost a few quid too.

My (probably wrong) reading of the situation is that our budget has been affected by a number of (unforseen) factors.

* 'Tarting' up the CG to get the safety certificate. I think this was in the region of 200k?
* Pitch relay/work. From the bits and pieces shared on Twitter when it was being done there were quite a lot of things they were finding broken. (sprinklers etc) No idea how much relaying a pitch costs but it ain't cheap I imagine, even before having to fix other stuff pitch related.
* Compensation of management staff - Sandro, Morris and Brand. Other staff members compensation costs (a reasonable amount of staff movements have happened, not sure if mutual or done via redundancy)

These are probably the main ones and whilst there is also the saving of the rent (was it 500k?) You would think that the above costs would probably be more than the saving?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:28:05
Cowley BS as per

Have we signed someone or is it being announced today?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:29:21
So it's 4.40pm What are you being told now Riddick?
The Edwards mentions on here go from hot to cold. No smoke without fire.

I've had no updated news on this. I was told this by a reasonably reliable source.

I was there on Sat and saw Godwin-Malife and was told everything had been sorted so that one i was really expecting to be done. I have no insight to the Lavinier complication though.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:29:35
My (probably wrong) reading of the situation is that our budget has been affected by a number of (unforseen) factors.

* 'Tarting' up the CG to get the safety certificate. I think this was in the region of 200k?
* Pitch relay/work. From the bits and pieces shared on Twitter when it was being done there were quite a lot of things they were finding broken. (sprinklers etc) No idea how much relaying a pitch costs but it ain't cheap I imagine, even before having to fix other stuff pitch related.
* Compensation of management staff - Sandro, Morris and Brand. Other staff members compensation costs (a reasonable amount of staff movements have happened, not sure if mutual or done via redundancy)

These are probably the main ones and whilst there is also the saving of the rent (was it 500k?) You would think that the above costs would probably be more than the saving?

And the bits and bobs you have mentioned is the money that fans donít see being spent, so they just assume itís not there.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:30:55
My (probably wrong) reading of the situation is that our budget has been affected by a number of (unforseen) factors.

* 'Tarting' up the CG to get the safety certificate. I think this was in the region of 200k?
* Pitch relay/work. From the bits and pieces shared on Twitter when it was being done there were quite a lot of things they were finding broken. (sprinklers etc) No idea how much relaying a pitch costs but it ain't cheap I imagine, even before having to fix other stuff pitch related.
* Compensation of management staff - Sandro, Morris and Brand. Other staff members compensation costs (a reasonable amount of staff movements have happened, not sure if mutual or done via redundancy)

These are probably the main ones and whilst there is also the saving of the rent (was it 500k?) You would think that the above costs would probably be more than the saving?

Wasn't it quoted somewhere that Morris and Brand were gone before they hit a specific time frame, meaning it was a termination before a triggered clause?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:32:58
The rent saving was closer to 50k than it was to 500k mind.

I have no doubt the unexpected costs of running a football club have hit the pocket hard - hence my reasoning we were trying to run tight now as we probably burned more than Clem had hoped to by now.  That said, anyone expecting to run a football club at this level and not have to burn about a million every year is a little deluded, even if that can be done creatively (like using Axis as a loan provider or sponsor).  That is how much short we are of the top 7 budgets (based on reviewing a bunch of accounts - and within those, a million is sometimes a good year).


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:34:14
How can they keep getting so close to signing a player only for it to fall apart at the last moment. Surely by then all parties know whatís being offered.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:35:42
How can they keep getting so close to signing a player only for it to fall apart at the last moment. Surely by then all parties know whatís being offered.

Thats why i'm really interested in what gets said this evening.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Cowley38 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:35:58
Cowley BS as per

Believe what you like...its a forum its up to you..

Bury your head in the sand and keep believing every is rosy....that's your perogative..

Me, as a fan since 1970 I'm worried about the future

We simply cannot afford another Power situation ....




Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:36:51
Wasn't it quoted somewhere that Morris and Brand were gone before they hit a specific time frame, meaning it was a termination before a triggered clause?

There very well could have been something like that. Alternatively given their frankly pathetic performance, we might have been able to get rid of them for way less than market value given they can't have hit many targets (like Adeloye - arf)

The rent saving was closer to 50k than it was to 500k mind.

I have no doubt the unexpected costs of running a football club have hit the pocket hard - hence my reasoning we were trying to run tight now as we probably burned more than Clem had hoped to by now.  That said, anyone expecting to run a football club at this level and not have to burn about a million every year is a little deluded, even if that can be done creatively (like using Axis as a loan provider or sponsor).  That is how much short we are of the top 7 budgets (based on reviewing a bunch of accounts - and within those, a million is sometimes a good year).

No idea where I got 500k from, must be wishful thinking on my part!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:38:24
15 minutes till 5. Any chance we get some good fucking news at 5pm for once rather than just more tumbleweed?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:38:50
Believe what you like...its a forum its up to you..

Bury your head in the sand and keep believing every is rosy....that's your perogative..

Me, as a fan since 1970 I'm worried about the future

We simply cannot afford another Power situation ....



I think we are fortunate that we have a few people at the club that will not allow that and have invested their own money to make sure that is not happening. It isnot perfect and they probably feel like they are pissing in the wind at times and when fans are calling them all sorts i would imagine it;s easier to say fuck this i am off you can owe me the money


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:41:11
Edwards is done.

I also remember this one on Edwards. it's all quite bizarre. Of course, not bizarre at all if they announce it.

Thanks for the reply Riddick.



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:42:29
Believe what you like...its a forum its up to you..

Bury your head in the sand and keep believing every is rosy....that's your perogative..

Me, as a fan since 1970 I'm worried about the future

We simply cannot afford another Power situation ....


If you expanded on what you keep hinting at then people might find your posts easier to believe.

At the moment, all we get is cryptic ITK stuff with no substance.

If the information is too sensitive to put out there, stop hinting at it and winding people up for no gain.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:55:44
I think we are fortunate that we have a few people at the club that will not allow that and have invested their own money to make sure that is not happening. It isnot perfect and they probably feel like they are pissing in the wind at times and when fans are calling them all sorts i would imagine it;s easier to say fuck this i am off you can owe me the money

Who is that other than Clem?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:56:13
15 minutes till 5. Any chance we get some good fucking news at 5pm for once rather than just more tumbleweed?

Nah. More radio silence.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:58:52
Tongihts meeting


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 15:59:05
Who is that other than Clem?
Yeah not worded great, money and their time is what I meant. Mainly Clem and Rob


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:01:57
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
How can they keep getting so close to signing a player only for it to fall apart at the last moment. Surely by then all parties know whatís being offered.
Has it fallen apart?

I mean it's not going smoothly or it would be announced. But it could still be on.

Back to a much earlier RobT post about having budget left, I really am beginning to think 1 out 1 in is the only definite way of funding. Anything else is hard work to achieve.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:02:23
Yeah not worded great, money and their time is what I meant. Mainly Clem and Rob

Rob is a presumably well salaried staff member. He isn't 'investing' anything. He might be staying because he feels a degree of responsibility for bringing in the "messiah" but that's up to him.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:06:04
Quote from: DMC
I think we are fortunate that we have a few people at the club that will not allow that and have invested their own money to make sure that is not happening. It isnot perfect and they probably feel like they are pissing in the wind at times and when fans are calling them all sorts i would imagine it;s easier to say fuck this i am off you can owe me the money

What if Clem is out of disposable money?

That is in no way a criticism, he simply can't put his business and his families future at risk for some club on the other side of the world

For the avoidance of doubt this is *what if* not *he is*.

The point is the club were losing 500k somehow, they'd have to stop that immediately


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:07:17
I think we need to remember that Rob Angus although CEO is also a fan and has been for many years so if there was ever anything untoward going on then I'm sure he would not be happy and would probably resign and look to do something about it, but I don't believe that would happen on his watch.

Those ITK types that like to hint at this need to remember that.

I'm also sure that the repairs to the stadium the costs would not have impacted the playing budget, there is rent going into an account that I'm sure will be used to pay the costs off as the rent money goes in I'm sure it will be used to pay it off, you would guess they loaned the money short term (maybe from Clem's pocket) to pay the repairs, and rent reduction will pay this off.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:08:46
Has it fallen apart?

I mean it's not going smoothly or it would be announced. But it could still be on.

Back to a much earlier RobT post about having budget left, I really am beginning to think 1 out 1 in is the only definite way of funding. Anything else is hard work to achieve.

Totally get 1 out 1 in. But we have stepped out right back to almost the bare bones. Since January, Reed, Gladwin, Williams, Iandolo, Darcy, Adeloye, Aguiar, MacDonald, Parsons, Roberts, plus the loans gone back and others I can remember, we've brought what in? 4, 3 of which are loans and 1 permanent. That's not 1 in 1 out. I so wish I could go tonight to ask what they meant by a competitive budget


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:10:47
Quote from: skiptotheLouMacari
Totally get 1 out 1 in. But we have stepped out right back to almost the bare bones. Since January, Reed, Gladwin, Williams, Iandolo, Darcy, Adeloye, Aguiar, MacDonald, Parsons, Roberts, plus the loans gone back and others I can remember, we've brought what in? 4, 3 of which are loans and 1 permanent. That's not 1 in 1 out. I so wish I could go tonight to ask what they meant by a competitive budget

which lead me to my second post about Clem, money and budget deficits


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:13:03
Rob is a presumably well salaried staff member. He isn't 'investing' anything. He might be staying because he feels a degree of responsibility for bringing in the "messiah" but that's up to him.
We disagree mate but interesting weíve got well salaried staff when it fits an argument

I merely said heís invested time, if you disagree itís fine not everything has to be a fucking argument on this forum. Personally if you or anyone think they havenít invested either their own time or money then I think you are wrong, doesnít mean Iím right


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Cowley38 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:14:10
If you expanded on what you keep hinting at then people might find your posts easier to believe.

At the moment, all we get is cryptic ITK stuff with no substance.

If the information is too sensitive to put out there, stop hinting at it and winding people up for no gain.

Think I've been clear in what I've said

Does not take a rocket scientist to work it out..


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:14:21
I dont think clem is running out of dollar purely because he was in it to buy the ground. Circa £1m of his money. That was covered by the Eadie trust so he hasnt used that money. If he was running low he wouldnt have progressed with the purchase of he was paying. Too many caveats on the purchase to stop him selling to a rogue and making a quick buck on the ground.
Unless of course the restructure of Axis was due to finances or lack of.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:14:43
What if Clem is out of disposable money?

That is in no way a criticism, he simply can't put his business and his families future at risk for some club on the other side of the world

For the avoidance of doubt this is *what if* not *he is*.

The point is the club were losing 500k somehow, they'd have to stop that immediately
I donít think he is but thatís just my opinion, Iíve said elsewhere though if the window shuts and weíve done fuck all Iíll even start doubting it myself


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:16:23
I dont think clem is running out of dollar purely because he was in it to buy the ground. Circa £1m of his money. That was covered by the Eadie trust so he hasnt used that money. If he was running low he wouldnt have progressed with the purchase of he was paying. Too many caveats on the purchase to stop him selling to a rogue and making a quick buck on the ground.
Unless of course the restructure of Axis was due to finances or lack of.
He did have to clear the debenture I believe though that was a bit unexpected


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:16:30
We disagree mate but interesting weíve got well salaried staff when it fits an argument

I merely said heís invested time, if you disagree itís fine not everything has to be a fucking argument on this forum. Personally if you or anyone think they havenít invested either their own time or money then I think you are wrong, doesnít mean Iím right

Certainly not arguing, so sorry if it came across that way. I was interested in your initial wording as I thought you were ITK about some silent investors!

And I'm not one of the "wE DoNT pAy ANyOne" crew. Assume as CEO Rob is as well renumerated as we can manage given he must have been on a decent whack at Nationwide.



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:16:49
I donít think he is but thatís just my opinion, Iíve said elsewhere though if the window shuts and weíve done fuck all Iíll even start doubting it myself

That's where I'm at, but all the too-ing and fro-ing does plant a seed of doubt


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: UTR on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:17:03
This is all important stuff but can we get back to whether anyone has seen UGM/Edwards/any competent CB with a STFC scarf above their head recently please


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:17:29
Anyway PV is going to stab someone if we donít add a rumour quickly


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:17:43
He did have to clear the debenture I believe though that was a bit unexpected

Oh yes he did, but he would have known about that wouldn't he?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:17:54
Heíll, rightfully, get pelters this evening


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:18:39
This is all important stuff but can we get back to whether anyone has seen UGM/Edwards/any competent CB with a STFC scarf above their head recently please

Yep totally.
2 to be unveiled tonight at the meeting to put fans minds at rest


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:18:47
I think we need to remember that Rob Angus although CEO is also a fan and has been for many years so if there was ever anything untoward going on then I'm sure he would not be happy and would probably resign and look to do something about it, but I don't believe that would happen on his watch.

Those ITK types that like to hint at this need to remember that.

I'm also sure that the repairs to the stadium the costs would not have impacted the playing budget, there is rent going into an account that I'm sure will be used to pay the costs off as the rent money goes in I'm sure it will be used to pay it off, you would guess they loaned the money short term (maybe from Clem's pocket) to pay the repairs, and rent reduction will pay this off.

Certainly the playing budget and stadium work is very separate, remember the club owns 50% of the ground.. not 100%.
The JV is responsible for the transformation work which is all separate and has separate accounts, budgets etc
Yes there are some work that is needed on the CG immediately which the club is paying for and has done (CCTV, Roof repairs, electrics etc) and yes that is circa 200k as defined in the AB minutes.
In essence stadium development and playing budget are not linked, very separate and certainly the playing budget has not been impacted or changed based on the short term CG costs.
Clem isn't looking to sell, far from it, he is in it for the long haul. Yes no one (unless your a billionaire) has a bottomless pit of money to invest and yes Clem wants the club to run sustainably and ongoing savings,and being more efficient with where the income is spent will help with this, ultimately that's Robs domain to manage.

Thought it worth sharing that to respond on a few points raised on this thread


Rent was 200k PA


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:20:52
Certainly the playing budget and stadium work is very separate, remember the club owns 50% of the ground.. not 100%.
The JV is responsible for the transformation work which is all separate and has separate accounts, budgets etc
Yes there are some work that is needed on the CG immediately which the club is paying for and has done (CCTV, Roof repairs, electrics etc) and yes that is circa 200k as defined in the AB minutes.
In essence stadium development and playing budget are not linked, very separate and certainly the playing budget has not been impacted or changed based on the short term CG costs.
Clem isn't looking to sell, far from it, he is in it for the long haul. Yes no one (unless your a billionaire) has a bottomless pit of money to invest and yes Clem wants the club to run sustainably and ongoing savings,and being more efficient with where the income is spent will help with this, ultimately that's Robs domain to manage.

Thought it worth sharing that to respond on a few points raised on this thread


Rent was 200k PA

Rent was £200k that's the immediate ground improvements covered then so not out of pocket from that.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:25:10
Heíll, rightfully, get pelters this evening

No he wont, people wont say anything. Then pay for a photo with him


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:34:55
No he wont, people wont say anything. Then pay for a photo with him
And that's half the problem isn't it sometimes


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:36:01
Perhaps a new player will be announced/be there?!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Briggany on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:37:18
Think I've been clear in what I've said

Does not take a rocket scientist to work it out..


About as clear as f'in mud. Cryptic and nonsensical.

If you have been clear why the hell do you think everyone keeps asking for you to clarify your cryptic posts.



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:40:51
It's Ellipsis Man and his sidekick Vague Bollocks


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:41:16
Transfer rumours or thoughts of incoming players during this time?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:48:27
Transfer rumours or thoughts of incoming players during this time?

It wouldn't surprise me, you just never know with STFC


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: UTR on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 16:59:14
Is tonightís Flynn thing being streamed/on the radio anywhere?

Or have I completely misunderstood what type of event it is


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:05:05
Is tonightís Flynn thing being streamed/on the radio anywhere?

Or have I completely misunderstood what type of event it is
Not being streamed as far as I know. 


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:32:17
As they are charging people to attend there is no way they would then stream it


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:34:54
Perhaps a new player will be announced/be there?!

I actually think that would be a cool thing to do. Announce it first to those there, post online soon afterwards. A little bonus for those that paid.

Will the club do that....


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:36:57
I actually think that would be a cool thing to do. Announce it first to those there, post online soon afterwards. A little bonus for those that paid.

Will the club do that....

Hyabb has called things in the past, is this his ITK on show??


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:42:41
Every evening I wake up and hope to see 2-3 announcements regarding players in.

This is getting ridiculously close to the season now.


Just going back to whatís Cowley was saying about loans & us not likely to get any PL loans in due to the PL wanting high % of the wages - where as L2 donít.

Iíd have thought it would be the opposite tbh. If Bradford donít want Young then youíd think theyíd want as much of his wages off the books so they could reuse them. Even as a modest squad player he probably takes up a decent % of their budget. Compare that with a PL youngster who may earn more but will be a much, much lower % of their teams total wage budget - I dare say such an insignificant amount that saving those wages would be absolutely no difference to themÖ


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:42:47
Hyabb has called things in the past, is this his ITK on show??

Not at all, just wouldnít surprise me


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:45:45
Every evening I wake up and hope to see 2-3 announcements regarding players in.

This is getting ridiculously close to the season now.


Just going back to whatís Cowley was saying about loans & us not likely to get any PL loans in due to the PL wanting high % of the wages - where as L2 donít.

Iíd have thought it would be the opposite tbh. If Bradford donít want Young then youíd think theyíd want as much of his wages off the books so they could reuse them. Even as a modest squad player he probably takes up a decent % of their budget. Compare that with a PL youngster who may earn more but will be a much, much lower % of their teams total wage budget - I dare say such an insignificant amount that saving those wages would be absolutely no difference to themÖ

The starting wage of both players will be very different, but the likely issue for the PL club is wanting some skin in the game for the lower league club.  They do not want the player to be left on the sidelines, so these deals come with a high financial penalty for not using them, which I presume Cowley is suggesting is too high a financial risk.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:46:16
Not at all, just wouldnít surprise me

Oh OK that was me hoping again


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 17:56:59
The starting wage of both players will be very different, but the likely issue for the PL club is wanting some skin in the game for the lower league club.  They do not want the player to be left on the sidelines, so these deals come with a high financial penalty for not using them, which I presume Cowley is suggesting is too high a financial risk.

That I can understand & a lot of us said that was why we suspected Kadji got a cameo every week

Covering wages wise - makes no sense to me. What for example a Spurs youngster earns a week is probably the equivalent of 10% of Harry Kaneís goal bonus. Spurs arenít going to need that cost saving.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:16:30
Third hand from someone on Twitter who's talking to someone there tonight:


-1 of the 3 mentioned on Sat has fallen through due to a player not wanting to go the opposite way

-Remain in talks with another (got the impression itís a trialist)

Now I am concerned.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:18:00
Very poor and exactly why you donít leave it until the last week to get your business done.



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:19:48
And you have to presume Lavinier will not be in the best mood right now, having been touted as a makeweight.  It's just all wreaking of not being able to afford the right type of players right now.  This was my concern when Flynn was mentioning about "inflated" markets - the market may be higher, but that may just be the market, you know, like Eggs in the past year.  If you want to make Eggs Benedict you need the eggs, you can't replace them with Tofu, not without taking a hit on quality, or if you still hold on for the eggs you may never get the breakfast/brunch you were after at all.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:20:56
If that is the case then i apologise to Cowley who appears to right if we can only bring in 1 player based on 1 leaving. Absolutely disgraceful from the club  


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:21:39
Oh wow


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:22:21
And you have to presume Lavinier will not be in the best mood right now, having been touted as a makeweight.  It's just all wreaking of not being able to afford the right type of players right now.  This was my concern when Flynn was mentioning about "inflated" markets - the market may be higher, but that may just be the market, you know, like Eggs in past year.

Yeah, feel for Lavinier here, sounds like heís almost being forced out.

Why did we even begin discussions with a player we knew there would be a fee involved for if we didnít want to pay it?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:22:47
But then this also.
Who the hell knows


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:23:34
Yeah, feel for Lavinier here, sounds like heís almost being forced out.

Why did we even begin discussions with a player we knew there would be a fee involved for if we didnít want to pay it?

This!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:23:56
I love this club


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:24:39
Would have been perfect for that RCB role. Looks like we're heading to Colchester with a skeleton defence.

Think a lot of people believe in building a squad from the back - and this 3 CB wing back system absolutely requires the right kind of defenders and wing backs carrying out instructions properly.

First time this pre season I have been gotten too - very pissed off this evening.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:25:36
Shambles.

So much for Ďdone dealí wtf we had him at the club & doing a medical before the makeweight had agreed to go the other way. What a waste of everyoneís time.

I was warming to the idea of Lavinier as RCB & as a make shift LWB (once Devine got injured) as I think heís a decent player but heís likely to be mightily pissed off right now.

If itís any help, Iím 38, still in decent shape and play football once a week. So with enough notice to book Friday night off work - Iíll play on Saturday, for freeÖ.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:26:27
Poverty football club


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:27:00
Still, we signed a 4th choice striker who doesnít score goals - so there is thatÖ


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:27:16
Someone else now saying Flynn hasn't even addressed the room


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:28:47
Someone else now saying Flynn hasn't even addressed the room

Heard the room is pissed off.
Fixtures, fittings & furniture were offer to FGR but donít want to move so talks broke down.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:28:57
It does feel as if the club is in disarray. We've not heard a word from Austin in pre-season and he could/should be out there pushing "the message" and getting season tickets shifted.

This pre-season has been an absolute omnishambles.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:32:13
Slightly annoyed at myself for always believing this club is on the right track, despite evidence to the contrary since i started following it.

We should absolutely be able to build a squad capable of competing at the top of League 2 yet get served a squad way off on the eve of the season.

Not good enough at all.

Rant over.

 :suicide:



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:34:06
Shambles.

This club is a joke at times.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:35:27
Any other sources for this info other than s1nsider?
Not believing it until verified.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:35:36
Someone else has just said on twitter they have not even spoke yet i may be wrong but think he may be on te wind up


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:36:41
Someone else has just said on twitter they have not even spoke yet i may be wrong but think he may be on te wind up

That sn1insider account has took the piss previously


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:37:00
Someone else has just said on twitter they have not even spoke yet i may be wrong but think he may be on te wind up

Hope so and i look like a cunt. Was due to start at 7...its now nearly 8...

When are we ever slow at things?  :)


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:37:07
Its a wind up by that guy on twitter, we have been had i think.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:37:49
Its a wind up by that guy on twitter, we have been had i think.

And this is how quickly negativity can spread, pathetic really.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:40:45
Just dont believe it until there is a second source


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:41:08
And this is how quickly negativity can spread, pathetic really.
Yep and i even bit this time. I need a break from this shit i tell you  :D


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:41:22
soapy tit wank that's some brilliant trolling if so


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:41:39
Flynn Event - question re. replacement for Gunning as first team coach:

ďNo imminent plans. Karl Robinson has been supporting on a consultancy basis but heís keen to get back in to management, so only short term. Will be extra pair of eyes in the standĒ

#stfc

😂😂


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:41:53
Ah man!
Iím so gullible and I fucking hate, hate twitter!
Apologies. Was only trying to share.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:42:30
Just mentioned Karl Robinson potentially joining. Defintely a wind up. And breathe.

Sorry all for the melodramatics.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:42:57
Yep and i even bit this time. I need a break from this shit i tell you  :D

Have some Eggs Benedict, turns out the Eggs are still available.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:43:29
At least I gave out the other info that OGM was training with the club.
FFS  :suicide:


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:44:54
Have some Eggs Benedict, turns out the Eggs are still available.
Only on loan


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:46:13
So is anyone from the TEF in attendance who can give us some insight?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:46:22
Only on loan

And we still have to send the Hollandaise sauce the other way, which rather spoils the overall impact of a good Eggs Benedict.  Don't get me wrong, Poached Egg on a Muffin is nice, but's not the best brunch you can have.

Fuck, where am I going.

Sir, I'm ready for my pills now.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:48:27
And we still have to send the Hollandaise sauce the other way, which rather spoils the overall impact of a good Eggs Benedict.  Don't get me wrong, Poached Egg on a Muffin is nice, but's not the best brunch you can have.

Fuck, where am I going.

Sir, I'm ready for my pills now.
Funny you say that just came off some and feeling really shit myself. Anyway eggs


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:49:52
Grade A windup in fairness. I need make sure i have them blocked on twitter.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:50:30
Masterful trolling job if it is one, but I guess the issue is that it's believable. I'm pretty sure Lavinier to FGR isn't definitely off yet though, just negotiations ongoing.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:53:18
This the clubís 3rd season under Clem, surely there must be somebody who has picked up the basics of getting a transfer sorted.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:53:27
Masterful trolling job if it is one, but I guess the issue is that it's believable. I'm pretty sure Lavinier to FGR isn't definitely off yet though, just negotiations ongoing.

Could it be because heís still injured ?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:54:05
This clubs fans- pathetic


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:54:33
I suspect he was not "injured" in the usual sense.  Didn't Flynn say something like "how do I respond to that one" when asked about the injury.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:54:33
Could it be because heís still injured ?

What I've heard has been contractual rather than medical but that doesn't mean there aren't additional medical issues I suppose.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:56:09
This the clubís 3rd season under Clem, surely there must be somebody who has picked up the basics of getting a transfer sorted.

Let's be absolutely fair, Sandro Di Michele got transfers in and out sorted quickly and in volume. They were just the wrong players at the wrong times, which is no small issue. Ben Chorley had a better record on both. Neither lasted more than 12 months at the club. This season we have a first team manager and a former academy director doing recruitment.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:56:53
I still think needing to use Lavinier as a makeweight is an issue - creates yet another gap that needs filling in our squad.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:57:40
I still think needing to use Lavinier as a makeweight is an issue - creates yet another gap that needs filling in our squad.

What gap? We have a right back in Hutton and are signing another one who can play left back too.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 18:58:53
What gap? We have a right back in Hutton and are signing another one who can play left back too.

We haven't yet signed a LWB as far as I can read.

Lavinier is a good prospect for supporting either of those roles, a good bench player or even challenging one of them as the season progresses.  He now won't be here, so we have no back-up of quality.  We will not get through a season by relying on just 11 players.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: kirky69 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:01:06
Terrific trolling,  just hope it doesn't actually end up near the truth. Wouldn't that be hilarious - not. Goes to show how fragile, pessimistic and beaten up we all feel.

Please STFC deliver a successful season, otherwise I fear for the mental health of our fanbase.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:01:28
Look, my hope, and belief for a top 7 challenge, is we are short of four or so first team quality players right this second and we don't have the required back-up quality on deck either.  To keep signing but then letting go at the same time is not creating the squad required to be top 7.  Not yet.  If you read my posts, broadly I am not one who is expressing huge panic, just immediate concern and assessing what we know to be true.  Things can, and hopefully will, change.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:04:06
Look, my hope, and belief for a top 7 challenge, is we are short of four or so first team quality players right this second and we don't have the required back-up quality on deck either.  To keep signing but then letting go at the same time is not creating the squad required to be top 7.  Not yet.  If you read my posts, broadly I am not one who is expressing huge panic, just immediate concern and assessing what we know to be true.  Things can, and hopefully will, change.

Yep and it all comes from wanting the best for the club. Agree 100% with this.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:08:50
Look, my hope, and belief for a top 7 challenge, is we are short of four or so first team quality players right this second and we don't have the required back-up quality on deck either.  To keep signing but then letting go at the same time is not creating the squad required to be top 7.  Not yet.  If you read my posts, broadly I am not one who is expressing huge panic, just immediate concern and assessing what we know to be true.  Things can, and hopefully will, change.

Fair enough. My view is the current first XI is capable of top 7. The lack of depth causes concern for me over the course of the season but this will be fixed by the end of August. No major panic alarms for me 


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:11:07
Thatís OGM then



 :crash:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0ogAAOSwuXNiJ2Co/s-l1200.webp)


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:12:35
Fair enough. My view is the current first XI is capable of top 7. The lack of depth causes concern for me over the course of the season but this will be fixed by the end of August. No major panic alarms for me  

That's fine, we disagree on the first team, so we won't have the same view on current business, such is life.

I want a top three first XI with the back-ups to ensure it remains at least in the top 7 for the season.  That is my expectation for our club at this level.  Right now there are too many players who can be good, but showed they can be very average last season as well.  Too much inconsistency for a top three group.  The depth is non existent, almost.  Lavinier is one of those I think could be a good depth player, but losing him clearly diminishes that in my world view.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:14:44
:crash:



I was just trying to share.
WONíT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE BACK 3?!?!?!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:18:54
Who is this troll account so I can block them, what is the handle?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:19:04
Skimmed reading back after a cracking day at the GBBF.

So, the benchmark for bottom feeding budgets making good would be Accrington in 2017-18 when they got promoted as champions.
Prior to start of that season they had signed 3 on free transfers & 2 for undisclosed fees.

To my relatively simple mind a "competitive"  L2 budget that has funded 3 loans thus far should be able to sustain a 200k (or so) bid for a key target with 3 or 4 days left until start of the season.

Circumstances can of course change over 3 or 4 months since we were reassured by senior management & a club admitting to being brassic isn't likely to encourage a flood of interest from the market.

My, somewhat forlorn, hope now is that the 2 or 3 bodies desperately needed to shore up the defence can still be brought in before the window swings gently to at the end of August.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:25:28
Who is this troll account so I can block them, what is the handle?

@Official_STFC


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:27:17
@Official_STFC

Very good.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:28:30
Says it in the bloody screenshot. I'm not with it today, much like our transfer activity.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:51:52
So is there no word from the event this evening? Canít believe not one of you useless kents didnít go.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Cowley38 on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:52:56
Fair enough. My view is the current first XI is capable of top 7. The lack of depth causes concern for me over the course of the season but this will be fixed by the end of August. No major panic alarms for me 

Head buried firmly in the sand!!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 19:54:07
So is there no word from the event this evening? Canít believe not one of you useless kents didnít go.

All people who are there have been asked to sign an NDA unless they pay £50


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:12:02
My view is the current first XI is capable of top 7.

I think John McEnroe said it best.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:40:41
Ok so Pippa has a picture of a cat so Iím gonna believe her words.
Sounds like the OGM deal to me.



Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:46:10
Still doesn't track with update from Sat where it was 2 or 3 basically done. So still sounds like something has gone wrong somewhere sadly.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:49:37
Iíll take that considering what I fell for about an hour or so ago.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:52:41
Just get someone down to beaversbrook tomorrow and let's get to the bottom of this.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 20:59:28
Surely captain and Vice will be Austin and FBT, just depends which way around he goes for.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:07:53
Surely captain and Vice will be Austin and FBT, just depends which way around he goes for.

Well the (nearly dead) hopeful side of me, would suggest that perhaps that points to him planning on securing more experience and captain material, and therefore a decision will be made after that recruitment.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:10:15
Still doesn't track with update from Sat where it was 2 or 3 basically done. So still sounds like something has gone wrong somewhere sadly.

I do wonder if the Bournemouth fella (Genesini?) is a Lavinier replacement, so theyíre not going for him until that transfer has gone through.
Which would make it 3.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:15:47
Quote from: ChalkyWhiteIsGod
Surely captain and Vice will be Austin and FBT, just depends which way around he goes for.

"Style of play against Plymouth is what heís aiming for. Another transfer 99% done, waiting on the other team to finish their part. Captain and vice captain not decided yet."

https://twitter.com/PippaSundquist/status/1686830329980497920?t=yZ9F-3Hyg4EI7tAdfGWJsA&s=19


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:26:26
"Style of play against Plymouth is what heís aiming for. Another transfer 99% done, waiting on the other team to finish their part. Captain and vice captain not decided yet."

https://twitter.com/PippaSundquist/status/1686830329980497920?t=yZ9F-3Hyg4EI7tAdfGWJsA&s=19
"Style of play against Plymouth is what heís aiming for. Another transfer 99% done, waiting on the other team to finish their part. Captain and vice captain not decided yet."

https://twitter.com/PippaSundquist/status/1686830329980497920?t=yZ9F-3Hyg4EI7tAdfGWJsA&s=19

That was legitimate from tonight I am aware.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:34:11
Just get someone down to beaversbrook tomorrow and let's get to the bottom of this.

What time?
Beaversbrook is a public facility right?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:34:37
Still doesn't track with update from Sat where it was 2 or 3 basically done. So still sounds like something has gone wrong somewhere sadly.

I think you need to go back and read the quotes from the manager. Hopeful was in there somewhere. Not exactly handing out a guarantee of done deals.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:47:05
I was there tonight and ultimately alot of what I have read was incorrect.

From what I can remember.

- Power tried to get Flynn in 4 times when he owned the club, Flynn was aware of Power and wasnt keen at that time.
- How we played on sat was like we will largely play but he has 2 formations , plan A and B he will largely use
- On transfers, The 3 that were said to join monday, 1 player decided Tues morning to join a League 1 club, the other is 99% done and waiting on other club (FGR ) to sort things their end, Flynn frustrated it hasnt happened sooner.
-Flynn has a Plan B for player that decided tues to goto a league 1 club, he was waiting for a call this evening on that one.
-Flynn will bring in 2 CBs and a LWB ideally by end of week
-He wants a squad of 23-24 players
- The reason players have not come in as soon as he hoped is simple, 5 clubs in lg 2 are paying high end lg 1 wages and some players have been holding out for one of them to buy them and so would not commit to any lower offers from other clubs. We also lost out on a striker he used to manage going elsewhere for that reason (The guy that went to Walsall i think)
- Our budget is good, but he wont pay silly money for players that are not worth it
- I asked who will be captain and vice captain , he said he had not decided both yet, but he suggested one of the players coming in will be one of those 2 , suggest that is Edward's
- Flynn has been surprised at some players being better than he thought they were and our league position last season suggested, a couple haven't been as good as he had hoped they were (suggest those are the ones that have left)
- He wants full commitment from our players and wont accept anything less..
- He said we have a great bunch of players and he is very happy with their commitment, effort and attitude

If i remember anything else i will add it in later. Flynn came across very well and wants to build something strong here, he sat on our table and we had a good chat with him and Wayne.. Both were great.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:55:22
Which of our rumoured targets has signed for a L1 club this week?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 21:57:46
I know it's just a thing that people say, but I would be amused if at some point a manager suggested that half hearted commitment was fine from their players!

Thanks for the summary Jan. Let's hope for a positive Thursday outcome.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:03:29
I was there tonight and ultimately alot of what I have read was incorrect.

From what I can remember.

- Power tried to get Flynn in 4 times when he owned the club, Flynn was aware of Power and wasnt keen at that time.
- How we played on sat was like we will largely play but he has 2 formations , plan A and B he will largely use
- On transfers, The 3 that were said to join monday, 1 player decided Tues morning to join a League 1 club, the other is 99% done and waiting on other club (FGR ) to sort things their end, Flynn frustrated it hasnt happened sooner.
-Flynn has a Plan B for player that decided tues to goto a league 1 club, he was waiting for a call this evening on that one.
-Flynn will bring in 2 CBs and a LWB ideally by end of week
-He wants a squad of 23-24 players
- The reason players have not come in as soon as he hoped is simple, 5 clubs in lg 2 are paying high end lg 1 wages and some players have been holding out for one of them to buy them and so would not commit to any lower offers from other clubs. We also lost out on a striker he used to manage going elsewhere for that reason (The guy that went to Walsall i think)
- Our budget is good, but he wont pay silly money for players that are not worth it
- I asked who will be captain and vice captain , he said he had not decided both yet, but he suggested one of the players coming in will be one of those 2 , suggest that is Edward's
- Flynn has been surprised at some players being better than he thought they were and our league position last season suggested, a couple haven't been as good as he had hoped they were (suggest those are the ones that have left)
- He wants full commitment from our players and wont accept anything less..
- He said we have a great bunch of players and he is very happy with their commitment, effort and attitude

If i remember anything else i will add it in later. Flynn came across very well and wants to build something strong here, he sat on our table and we had a good chat with him and Wayne.. Both were great.


Are you suggesting Edwards is signing then?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:05:54
Which of our rumoured targets has signed for a L1 club this week?

I don't see any, or any signings that would match our needs that would seem obvious either:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/league-one?page=1

Presume  not completed then?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:06:03
A helpful summary, so thanks Jan.

You suggest the UGM is still a go then and that the third of the ones mentioned on Sat is now off.

Later you ref Edwards regarding captain? So edwards wasn't one of the three, and could still be done?

As we all have said getting the 2 cb and lwb before Sat will be a real boost. Lets hope they are in soon.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:08:12
LWB would be more than a boost, we probably don't have one right now.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:09:06
I know it's just a thing that people say, but I would be amused if at some point a manager suggested that half hearted commitment was fine from their players!

Thanks for the summary Jan. Let's hope for a positive Thursday outcome.

Itís probably ok if youíre Dimitar Berbatov.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:11:20
LWB would be more than a boost, we probably don't have one right now.

Agreed. And the position we have heard least rumours about.

Getting a left footed player of the ilk of Hutton would be absolutely huge.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:16:27
Agreed. And the position we have heard least rumours about.

Getting a left footed player of the ilk of Hutton would be absolutely huge.

Dimitar Velkovski


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:29:06
This clubs fans- pathetic

100%


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 22:36:19
Iíd say it was Brooklyn Genesini thatís going to the league one club


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, August 2, 2023, 23:46:04
I think Kinsella will be made captain

Some fantastic pantomime whilst reading back nigh on 30 pages of this fred  :D


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Kaufman on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 04:49:21
A helpful summary, so thanks Jan.

You suggest the UGM is still a go then and that the third of the ones mentioned on Sat is now off.

Later you ref Edwards regarding captain? So edwards wasn't one of the three, and could still be done?

As we all have said getting the 2 cb and lwb before Sat will be a real boost. Lets hope they are in soon.

Yep very helpful Jan. thanks.
Iím with you Riddick. I just assumed Edwards would have been the one that went to the L1 club given OGM and FGR need to sort stuff. Young was obvious the other one of the 3.

Hopefully Jan can make this clearer this morning. Really appreciated


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Laddy in Red on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 06:40:45
The windup and meltdown was good, I got angry too.

Thanks for the summary Jan. Sounds difficult for Flynn in the transfer market because our budget isn't as competitive as others.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 06:58:30
I was there tonight and ultimately alot of what I have read was incorrect.

From what I can remember.
-Flynn will bring in 2 CBs and a LWB ideally by end of week
-He wants a squad of 23-24 players
- The reason players have not come in as soon as he hoped is simple, 5 clubs in lg 2 are paying high end lg 1 wages and some players have been holding out for one of them to buy them and so would not commit to any lower offers from other clubs. We also lost out on a striker he used to manage going elsewhere for that reason (The guy that went to Walsall i think)
- Our budget is good, but he wont pay silly money for players that are not worth it.



Basically what I've been saying on here for weeks


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 06:58:40
Iíd say it was Brooklyn Genesini thatís going to the league one club
That was my assumption too.

I saw Points West last night, who did a little article on the new season. They were at the training ground with Town and I could see that Rashawn Scott was there as was Ward and I *think* the tall, thin, blonde defender that was mentioned a few pages back from Portsmouth/Plymouth (or something like that) who had a horrific injury record.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob1978 on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:13:28
The windup and meltdown was good, I got angry too.

Thanks for the summary Jan. Sounds difficult for Flynn in the transfer market because our budget isn't as competitive as others.

Well itís a bit more subtle than that - we are fishing in the same pond as some as the clubs who are paying over the odds. Obv they canít sign all the players so we need to be patient. We could have fished in other ponds and sign lots of players but long term not the best option.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:18:04
still not impressed with the recruitment. I get what he's saying but is he also saying clubs not in the top 5 spenders have bought in at over the odds/bought shit?

at least he's said 2xCB  and LWB required, just like us "pathetic" fans have


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:18:39
That was my assumption too.

I saw Points West last night, who did a little article on the new season. They were at the training ground with Town and I could see that Rashawn Scott was there as was Ward and I *think* the tall, thin, blonde defender that was mentioned a few pages back from Portsmouth/Plymouth (or something like that) who had a horrific injury record.

I dont think it was filmed recently, Ronan Darcy was in it too


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:23:12
This clubs fans- pathetic

As this seems to have got to a few people, just to clarify - this comment was directed at the troll rather than people getting frustrated at a lack of signings. We're all entitled to an opinion of course, but the shit stirring is pathetic.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:39:25
A new day, new positivity!

We have until midday to register players for the weekend.

Flynn wants 2CBs and a LWB this week. A busy 36 hours ahead!!

(i am prepared)


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:40:49
A new day, new positivity!

We have until midday to register players for the weekend.

Flynn wants 2CBs and a LWB this week. A busy 36 hours ahead!!

(i am prepared)

Midday tomorrow isnít it?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:42:19
I dont think it was filmed recently, Ronan Darcy was in it too
Ah!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:51:45
Midday tomorrow isnít it?

Midday Friday yeah, sorry, fingers type slower than the brain thinks.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 07:52:45
As this seems to have got to a few people, just to clarify - this comment was directed at the troll rather than people getting frustrated at a lack of signings. We're all entitled to an opinion of course, but the shit stirring is pathetic.

Is it any wonder nobody knows what's fact from fiction anymore when nonsense that that narcissist on twitter did last night caught so many out?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:06:13
Is it any wonder nobody knows what's fact from fiction anymore when nonsense that that narcissist on twitter did last night caught so many out?
There is that, but it really isn't helped by there being a pretty hefty chunk of the fan base who will believe and perpetuate any rumour if it supports their already ingrained negative opinion of the club and heirarcy in its present state, one could post on twitter that we had a L1 LWB ready to sign, who then instead went to North Leigh as they were offering better wages and it would shorty be circulating everywhere as FACT.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:10:12
Oh great, so now we're missing out on players to North Leigh?

CLEM OUT


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:11:44
There is that, but it really isn't helped by there being a pretty hefty chunk of the fan base who will believe and perpetuate any rumour if it supports their already ingrained negative opinion of the club and heirarcy in its present state, one could post on twitter that we had a L1 LWB ready to sign, who then instead went to North Leigh as they were offering better wages and it would shorty be circulating everywhere as FACT.

Yeah that is a pretty real problem these days. The constant desire for information outpaces anything shared by semi-reliable sources. Though there are fewer and fewer of those these days as well.

Its also propogated by the shit state out squad is in right now. If we were sat here with an eleven most of us are comfortable with, and just 1 or 2 gaps then the constant hunger for news would also be reduced.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:11:49
Oh great, so now we're missing out on players to North Leigh?

CLEM OUT

 :D


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DMC on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:16:25
Yesterday i had over 15 direct messages on twitter either telling me Clem had gone bankrupt,was looking to sell or that we are not signing anyone else whatsoever based on the rumours  they have heard. Others say tell Clem he is a tight cunt and to sell, he's a crook blah blah

It is madness how a rumour spreads about and in the end even start doubting things yourself. I suppose it is like the old saying throw enough shit at the wall and some will stick


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:31:23
Anyway PV is going to stab someone if we donít add a rumour quickly
Not wrong there :)


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:31:59
There is that, but it really isn't helped by there being a pretty hefty chunk of the fan base who will believe and perpetuate any rumour if it supports their already ingrained negative opinion of the club and heirarcy in its present state, one could post on twitter that we had a L1 LWB ready to sign, who then instead went to North Leigh as they were offering better wages and it would shorty be circulating everywhere as FACT.


Speaking of North Leigh, one of their players has just signed for Crystal Palace!


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:34:21
Not wrong there :)

Is there a posts per rumout limit we need to maintain?


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:38:27
Yesterday i had over 15 direct messages on twitter either telling me Clem had gone bankrupt,was looking to sell or that we are not signing anyone else whatsoever based on the rumours  they have heard. Others say tell Clem he is a tight cunt and to sell, he's a crook blah blah

It is madness how a rumour spreads about and in the end even start doubting things yourself. I suppose it is like the old saying throw enough shit at the wall and some will stick
The weird thing is, when the rumours are disproven (e.g. more players are signed) people don't learn and they believe the crazy rumours then next time around too.


Title: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:44:28
Speaking of North Leigh, one of their players has just signed for Crystal Palace!

https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/announcement/crystal-palace-sign-chris-francis/

This kid? We released him.


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:50:17
Yeah thats the one


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 08:54:58
Yeah thats the one

Maybe we'll get him on loan!


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: adje on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 09:08:06
Oh great, so now we're missing out on players to North Leigh?

CLEM OUT
😂


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: UTR on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 10:30:30
A little confused at the player we missed out on. From reading I got the impression that the player we missed out on who wanted LGE1 football was Edwards (as UGM and Young were the other 2 from the 3) but then later on in that post it mentioned Edwards as a potential captain/vice captain.


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 11:41:03
A little confused at the player we missed out on. From reading I got the impression that the player we missed out on who wanted LGE1 football was Edwards (as UGM and Young were the other 2 from the 3) but then later on in that post it mentioned Edwards as a potential captain/vice captain.

Yeah same. Not very clear.

Possible Edwards wasn't one of the original 3, who knows. Wait and see i guess.



Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 11:55:13
I think Jan was adding his own thoughts when mentioning Edwards, I very much doubt that Flynn used any names.  Either way, he hadn't had a L1 clubs scarf above his head anytime yesterday, at least not a released photograph.


Title: Re: Another non transfer rumours with maybe a rumour
Post by: DiV on Thursday, August 3, 2023, 12:22:47
I think Jan was adding his own thoughts when mentioning Edwards, I very much doubt that Flynn used any names.  Either way, he hadn't had a L1 clubs scarf above his head anytime yesterday, at least not a released photograph.

This.

We can speculate who we lost out on - but the obvious clue is - itís someone whose signed for a L1 this week.