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I don't even think we'll beat this lot  :doh:
Still, gonna go to this one and try and get some anti board songs going  ;)

Swindon 1-3 Morecambe att: 6,101 (65 away)

Town enter the bottom 2.

They were unlucky against Port Vale Saturday.

If we can have more of the last 20 minutes and less of the previous 70 from Saturday then I think we should win this.

Amongst all the jibberish I think Holloway was fairly spot on in his assessment from the Accrington game so I'd hope they would work to rectify it.

This.

It's odd isn't it, it's like he hides one minute of reasonable football analysis inside ten minutes of mixed quality open mic standup in an attempt to go viral. He's not an idiot, but he almost deliberately seems to play one.

I've got a bad feeling about Saturday. Not sure why. Probably making up for the good feeling for the good feeling v Accrington.

There is a long way to go, but sure this is a must win if we want to pull out the mire. A must not lose if we want to stay up?

Anyone know what type of football they play? Hopefully a team full of technical midgets and not a direct style.


As demonstrated by the end of the interview Saturday. "that'll be a belter" or whatever.

I have no idea what formation we’ll play…

If it was me - I’d look to very much going back to basics with a 442

Barden in goal. Tried to support Bycroft but he hasn’t looked good and quite frankly if we aren’t going to play Barden what is the point?

Sobowale at right back
Wright as one of the CBs don’t really care who we partner him with because this far all the options have been liabilities so far this season.
Cox at left back

McGregor wide right
Ofoborh & Kilkenny in the middle
Wide left is kinda open. You could put Butterworth or Cotterill or McGurk or Longelo there.

Smith up front with well any one of Drinan, Glatzel or Tshimanga; all been equally wasteful or non existent in front of goal.

4231 for me

                Barden

Sobo - Wright - Delaney - Cox

         Kilkenny - Ofoborh

McGregor - Butterworth - Glatzel

                  Smith

I'm going to this. So far I've seen a defeat and a draw, so surely I can complete the set? Not beating these would be a bit of a disaster.

Been advocating that a lot all season. Wouldn’t be against it at all but also don’t think it’s a formation Holloway would go anywhere near…

It’s probably the best formation to suit the players we have imo

He can call it 433 if he likes :D

I would go with this line up too but maybe give McGurk another go wide left as Glatz was very wasteful on Saturday.

Personally I think its either Butterworth or Mcgurk as they are too similar (small technical almost luxury players) to play in the same team. I prefer Mcgurk but after Butterworths wonder goal it will be difficult to drop him. Glatzel was wasteful but at least he is getting in to positions to score and was involved in the build up to Butterworths goal with a sublime flick.

Exactly the same side i would go with too.

Yes Butterworth and McGurk did seem to try and take up the same positions on Saturday during the game, I just like the little extra that McGurk brings to the game.

Admittedly he didnt get much chance to do that on Saturday though as in the first half we were over run, partly due to Kilkenny being dropped for the useless Cotterill (IMO).

I'd go same 'cept Minturn for Delaney

Probably not the right thread but our illustrious manager is going to be on talk sport at 9.45 this morning talking about ghosts and our haunted training ground !!

Oh good.

Load of fucking shite.

I mean it would explain a few things.
Training ground is haunted. Our players are ghosts.
Would explain why the can’t see each other to pass to & can’t stop the opposition going straight through them….

I know someone they can call..... :) lets get the old crew back together 1 last time...again.

🤣

Dunno about a field on the outskirts of Calne but im haunted by the majority of our performances this season!

Just have to win this one and i dont give a shit how we do it! OGs and balls off arses are willingly accepted! Just get the win...

Play like the last 25 on Saturday and im sure a victory is on the cards. Need some steel in Midfield to START on Saturday.

The David Squires cartoon in the Guardian today features West Country Exorcist Ian Holloway.https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2024/nov/19/david-squires-on-his-favourite-characters-after-10-years-at-the-guardian-drawing-board

Excellent!

:)

Really is must win.

The Mystery Machine?  ;)

Also, I think Town will lose. And it'll be by the arse cheek fluke of a goal or the lurpak lathered gloves of Mssr Bycroft.  A scenario that only we would be hopeful to pick up 3pts by.

I want to be spectacularly wrong and I hope I am. This probably will give an indicator of where the season ends up going.


NB: I know there are outliers but often, when a team is in the bottom four after 15 games, they never tend to get any higher than about 16th place. The other day I predicted 17th but I just can't see 7 teams that are worse than Town and have actually played 16 games. Possibly 3 worse teams than Town at a stretch...so the trapdoor looms - maybe not this season but that's if we're lucky as we're on track to score just 37pts...I don't want to think about it but if not this, then next season could be our ''confirmation'' of being granted access to the National League...finally affirming what we have long tried to avoid and not see as a distinct reality.

Pulls a mask off Morfuni.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

And if it weren't for them pesky fans.......

Ollie on Talksport Breakfast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCIohNAZlf4

To reveal...

Lee Power  :cry:

Biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard.

Still, the distraction appointment seems to be working, taking heat off the shit results

Well maybe that’s his exact aim

I am sure that is the reason. The Clemites lap up things like that

Clemmings, surely?

I quite like Morphoney

Zoiks!!

Distraction will only last a little while if the results don't change.

Got my doubts big time. But I'm not sure even this lot would think being shit but having funny interviews would appease the masses for long

Let’s be honest - if he’s getting positive results he can say whatever the fuck he wants.

I honestly think if we lose Saturday then we are doomed.

https://youtu.be/h7ArUgxtlJs?si=6q3YB4a-95KLAcw4

I've jokingly said for years we are cursed.

Turns out it was no joke.

Exorcist IN

Well we moved to Beversbrook in 2015 our record since then has been.

L1 15th
L1 22nd
L2 9th
L2 13th
L2 1st (covid season)
L1 23rd
L2 6th
L2 10th
L2 19th

Since we have been training there we have had 4 of the clubs 5 lowest ever league finishes recorded and thats in just 9 years.

So there may be something in the curse thing ;)

I used to live near Beversbrook and never had any bad luck......erm  :hmmm:

How many time have you been to a game and we have lost and you state I am never going again? :D just saying!

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The Curse of Clemente

Hot dinners  :D

Have you seen some of supporters? They even clapped the owner the other week

Chances of this game being off? Freezing overnight for the next 2 nights. A lot warmer on Sat, but that may be too late.

.  Would have thought they’ve already thought of that and kept the pitch covered overnight.  Wouldn’t think they’d want this postponed with Morecambe’s current form.

Minimal I'd say, only down to -2 last night - so fine unless they "forgot" the covers again.

The weather for Saturday currently looks atrocious. May change of course but looks like a wet and scrappy battle is coming.

Yes keep the mini momentum going that we currently have.

Our recent form last 11 (most recent 1st)
A 2-2 D Accrington
A 1-3 L MKD
H 2-1 W Spurs EFLC
H 2-1 W Colchester FAC
H 1-1 D Gillingham
A 1-2 L Salford
H 1-2 L Doncaster
A 3-2 W Cheltenham
H 4-1 W B Rovers EFLC
H 0-0 D Harrogate
A 1-1 D Tranmere

So its 3 defeats in our last 11 games in all comps with 4 wins.

A realearly season (comparatively) 6 pointer already on Saturday.

Morecambe are easily beatable and if we win there will be a 6 point gap between us and them at the bottom of the table.

Thier recent run of form last 7 (Most recent 1st)
H 0-1 L Port Vale
H 1-2 L Carlisle EFLC
A 2-1 W Harrogate
A 2-0 W Worthing FAC
H 2-5 L Chesterfield
A 0-3 L Wimbledon
H 1-3 L MKD

So its 2 wins in the last 7 in all comps and 5 defeats.

In the league both teams are struggling badly though and on the day anything can happen.

They too are suffering with shit ownership too and have had protests themselves recently, fair play to them for having the balls to protest unlike our fans who seem to have just settled for shit.

https://www.beyondradio.co.uk/news/local-sport/morecambe-fc-thank-fans-for-inspirational-support-after-ownership-protest/

They have ex Town player Hallam Hope on their books, a striker/winger that never really won over many Swindon fans in his year with us.

They are managed by the Derek Adams who was linked very heavily with us in the Summer.

I expect Clem sold the covers to Cash Generators in March to aid cashflow and then buys them back in November when they are needed before going into hock again in March.

People cheered the last fans forum when he said he wasn't selling.

Morecambe protesting and we're not. Fuck me.

That was probably the matchday guests

So a picture from Matt Povey on Twitter with the covers on the pitch, so hopefully they are on it

People they selected..

So the number of home fans has basically been falling since the opening day, with the one notable exception (following the big home win against Newport).

Will be interesting to see if that trend continues on Saturday

7,179   Walsall
6,427   Notts County
5,991   Newport County
6,395   Carlisle United
6,256   Harrogate Town
6,388   Doncaster R
6,220   Gillingham

How many season tickets did we sell this year compared to last year?

I don't think there was ever a confirmed number but the club claimed the numbers were basically the same once they took out all the freebies.

Which seemed to indicate over 1k in free season tickets were handed out the year before.  :hmmm:

By freebies they mean a lot of the concession prices changing i expect.

You know, the extra freeloaders.

So the 2k less fans this year are walk ups, even at a cheaper price than last season. Fantastic club promotion that  ::)

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https://youtu.be/MCIohNAZlf4?si=vfswejdQWLWPuKid

Oh he wasn't joking then. Jesus fucking christ

I did roll my eyes when he started going into his 'haunted training ground' spiel in his post match interview and again when I saw he'd done the inevitable interview above with Talk Sport. But whilst I'm sure he enjoys cultivating this quirky image he's developed in the media over the years, I honestly think it's just a light hearted attempt to lift the spirits of the squad (sorry for the pun), to bring in a bit of humour (whether you think it's funny or not is another matter) and to relieve a little bit of pressure on the players which must be surely starting to build up. Hopefully it works, anything has to be worth a try...

Yeah - it’s this isn’t it.

All the ‘comedic’ bullshit only becomes a problem if the results are shit. Get positive results & our fanbase will take no notice of this nonsense

True to a point but the results are already shit (largely not Holloway's fault) so there's so little lee way. If we lose to Morecambe after spending a week on national radio talking about ghosts, I will absolutely be fuming. Probably not fair, I'm sure it is in at least part an attempt to take the pressure off players, but it just makes us look stupid. And we're quite capable of doing that without the manager helping.

He really doesn't have ten games like a new manager in the summer does. We need results yesterday.

Well there's going to be some howling winds on Saturday, will it be off?

No, I agree.

If we don’t win Saturday we’ll be (even more of) a laughing stock.
Win & everyone over looks all this ghost stuff.

Draw & it’ll probably be split!

Only if the Arkells roof blows away.

How many puns can they get in the match report.

Ghosted in at the far post
Spirited performance
Exorcised the loss daemons

Scary Move 1,2 & 3 for the two ghouls scored today.

Will Swindon be haunted by this result come the end of the season? :o

Who’s put the willies up Holloway?

The spectre of another defeat would lower everybody’s spirits.

Can’t make up my mind whether to go or not.

They ought to be selling scream masks in the club shop  :)

Got a free ticket so gonna attend this one (still refusing to give the club any money)

Only other game attended this season was the lovely 0-4 drubbing by Warsaw. Apologies in advance.

Bought my ticket earlier this week, Mrs Bob is going Christmas shopping at the outlet, so the option was that or go to the football so it's Holloways set piece disasterclass for me.

I also went to the Walsall game, so feel your pain! (I did Gills at home which was fun to be fair)

Ha, Walsall and Gills are my only 2 games so far, will be going Saturday.

Point of order, the person in the mask wasn't a ghost.

My view too

Tickets sold looks sparse, could be a sub 6k.

A ghost town?

I have a feeling the game won't be on due to the forecast high winds.

There'll be enough wind in the pub with Flash's arse  ::)

https://youtu.be/jqZ8428GSrI?si=-xttQMCDDeBbx-kL

You know it!

40mph winds, that but a gentle breeze in Morecambe....

That's 'still' for the County Ground  ;D

Oh dear, we all know that the County Ground was especially designed to be a wind tunnel

"and when you think about it, that's cheating"... an actual quote from an Exeter fan after we beat them in 2020 (the last time we were any good)... the most unintentionally hilarious quote I've ever read from an opposing fan🤣

With the advances in fluid analysis and GIS tools over the last decade or so, I would genuinely be fascinated to see what causes the wind tunnel at the CG. Maybe there are some Swindon fans doing a masters or PHD that would like to give it a go?

Morecambe 1-0 Swindon

I have a bad feeling.

I reckon weather will effect the game 3-2 for us if I’m feeling optimistic

Please just no nonsense today.

Start our best players, and play them in their best positions.

I don't want to see Drinan out wide, or Butterworth wing back.

I don't want to see Kilkenny on the bench ever again.

Start Barden.

Drop Cotterill.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Holloway should've seen enough now to be of the same mind I reckon

Not sure I agree with starting Barden in midfield!!

Is this not postponed yet?

No games off yet in the EFL...

What's the weather been like in Swindon? Don't think the rain is due to really pick up until later?

Its not the rain, its more the 45mph gusting winds. Seem to recall lots of games called off at the County Ground in the past due to wind when no others in the EFL suffered.

Surely the postponed matches due to the wind were caused by the unsafe structures of the old stands and the possibility of the roof blowing away.
Hopefully those days have gone.

Town 2 : 0 Shrimpers, both goals wind assisted.

A bit windy, a bit wet. Not severe enough to get a hedge called off unless it's through ground safety, severe enough to make it a poor spectacle.

Also several enough to get under 6,000

Nah just 1 storm is enough for anyone!

Spellchecker🤣 severe!

8 pages of pre match chat before KO, that must be a record for this season so far.

Holloways pre-match interview has to be one of the longest I can remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hR4Lme5FM

Can I pay on the gate today? They take cards? Got fuck all cash

The crossover of it being a big game and there being weather about, we all love weather speculation. And ghosts...

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No Sobowale, is he injured?

Looks likely to be...

                      Bycroft
            Wright    Hall     Delaney
McGregor    Ofoborh    Kilkenny          Cox
   Tshimanga       Smith      Butterworth

Players in their actual positions, that's nice. Defence could go either way, lots of experience but hope they don't have much pace...

I’m sure you can, not literally “on the gate” as it were but from one of the ticket hatches by the townend.

Odd. He has been one of our better players this season.

I like the look of that lineup. Exclusion of Sobowale is a mystery but otherwise looks decent. Great to see Brown on the bench.

Which is why it’s odd that Sobowale isn’t at least on the bench

Nah, I’d say it’s going to be 352 with wing backs all day long.
My opinion on 3 at the back is well known, so I won’t bore you all with it.

Again, not a line up i’d ever pick. Just fucking win the game Ian.

I’d also have swapped keepers over.
Not sure what either us, Norwich or Barden are getting out of this deal.

Hallam Hope only on the bench today for them and their best player, winger Gwion Edwards, is out injured.

Their other ex Town player, keeper Stuart Moore, is not even on the bench.

They have the huge Marcus Dackers up front for them today who is one of the tallest footballers in the EFL at 6 foot 7.

Freckles?

Yes I doubt hardly any of us would pick 3 at the back as it just doesnt seem to work at this level, great higher up the leagues but defender quality in L2 is just not good enough.

But Morecambe play with 5 at the back so Ollie is obviously again trying to match them as he did with Accrington last week, whereas I would prefer them to try and match us when we are at home and not the other way around. We should be more attacking at home.

For me I just dont see Butterworths best position, he plays in at attacking midfield role but only ever looks any good cutting inside from the wide attacking position so far.

He needs to grab the game by the balls and use his skillset more often in running at players, he may get that more sat just behind the 2 strikers or actually pushing further forward alongside the front 2.

I’m not sure long term setting up to match the opposition every week is going to us any favours.

We cant allow our formation to be dictated to by the opposition formation. Thats starting on the back foot from the off.

Ollie should be setting his side up to get the best from our players and let the opposition worry about matching us not visa versa.

I found that a very difficult listen. Full of contradictions and the usual flannel. Hope he's got the selection right today

He is - he has 3 experienced cb’s and wing backs hence formation.

Ollie does get very deep amongst his passion😁

Colchester have won. That's not ideal.

A back 3 of Hall, Delaney & Wright terrifies me personally

Not terrifies me but it doesnt instill any defensive confidence in me, I would rather play 2 CB's and have an extra body in midfield, a creative player.

I mean it’s not Heywood, Reeves & Viveash but doesn’t feel like it’s going to be much better.

We shall see…

That foul given against Cox looked a bit harsh.

It's fine as long as they have no pace. Against a proper long ball side I like it...

Lots of weather related mistakes so far from both teams, wind slowing up the passes and the wet surface affecting control.

Hall blocks a cross and it goes out for a corner to them.

With this wind - a goal direct from a corner is definitely on

McGrgor marking Daeckers who is at least a foot taller than him!

Another corner to them. Struggling to deal with high balls in our box.

Another corner to them.

Too easy

0-1

Been coming.

Total garbage.

Lordie

Let’s hope that this is a reverse of the MK game!

That was quite poor

Pathetic.

Corner to Town.

Just looking at the wind - it’s going to be a game of two halves

Not a fan of one of our biggest attacking threats who is 6 foot 4 taking the corners.

They obviously watched the last game

Any ball in the box, goal incoming!!

that was one of the poorest long throws I have seen since Iandolo used to try and take them.

Thought that was a decent tackle by their lad

Butterworth felled on the edge of the box in the corner, yellow for the Morecambe defender.

Not a great delivery by Cox but Delaney goes to the deck too easily.

Looking around it looks like its low just over 6k attendance to me with only a couple of hundred from Morecambe (understandably).

0-2

This is embarressing defensively.

We are utterly pathetic

Totally unmarked coming in from the wing.

Jesus!

Just liquidate.

This back 3 is giving Heywood, Reeves & Viveash a run for their money.

I think our best bet now is for a postponement tbh

We deserve relegation.

God that defending was atrocious. Bycroft should do better as well.

We fully deserve to go down

Just fuck off Clem give us a fighting chance

We've had some shit sides with shit players in the past, but this is the shittest site we have ever had, despite there being some good players in there.

Fuck me.

Got the stench of Aldershot this one.

How many times do have to ask what they’ve been working on in training.

People keep saying this squad is better than it’s shown, at what point do you just accept it’s shit?! Surely we’ve seen enough now to accept this is the level of this squad, it’s appalling with no redeeming features!

Fucking hell for fucks sake.. You fucking fucks

Ghostbusting

In the past when we’ve had shit teams - we’ve usually had shit players who for the most part knew they were a bit shit but tried to make up for that with work rate & effort.

We don’t get that from this team. They have the attitude of the 10/11 team that went down despite having some decent players in it.

That’s the problem too much nonsense behind the scenes.

The only one smiling today is rockin robin

Yes and according to the trust Clems the only gig in town!

Now level on points with Morecombe and Carlisle at the bottom of L2

Embarrassing and can see no way out...

Does Delaney just hit the deck every time we whip in a corner?

Only Swindon could turn a must win game into waving the white flag after a few minutes.

Drinan on for McGregor.

1-2

Drinan

Best manager in the world for that sub :-[

Super sub

Crikey! Was just explaining to my son why the crowd were booing Drinan coming on! 😂

…now whose playing where though?

433 I guess

Fucking get in there Dri!!!!

Awful miss by them, luckily.

1st shot by us all game.

Corner to Town.

Hall heads it over the bar from 3 yards.

Has the defence ever looked anything other than shambolic when Hall has been part of it? For someone with so much experience he’s a waste of a wage!

We're gonna win 3-2!

We might win, but I'll be surprised if we don't concede again.

It finished 3-3 last season, thats still possible.

Some better play by Town there.

Butterworth shoots from 25 yards high over the bar.

Never rated him anyway but don’t think he’s played well at all for us.
Best thing he did was get himself sent off & suspended.

40 yard shot saved by Bycroft. Should have held it though for me.

Flapped by Bycroft more like!

Drinan lovely cross for Smith but his shot was vlocked by the keeper, but he was offside anyway.

In that weather - no fucking chance!

No of course but it was a good height for him but he never ever tries to catch shots, which cost us goals, luckily this time it didnt.

HT 1-2

Game is wide open now again.

Do you think we have the brains to take advantage of the conditions.........I dont

Generally concur but in this weather I’d rather he punches it away rather than trying to catch it & it potentially slipping out his hands as he lands

And when he saved it, he pushed it out in front of him again. Not round the post.

I have a feeling Ollie will lay into them and at this point I dont think we will lose today, but I think it could well be a draw.

Well, we are still in it. Might even win it.

But, even in these conditions it's not good

He pushed it out….sideways…..for a throw in ffs

Nothing wrong with that save.

We’ll score second half with wind behind us

That was a truly pathetic first half hour. Thankfully Morecambe are so gash, we are always going to be in the game and can hopefully turn it around. Anything less than three points here is an utter disgrace. Agree with the person who said this is like the 10/11 squad. Obviously nowhere near the quality of that squad, but they really do not look arsed a lot of the time, just like that 10/11 team. The back 3 are all at sea. Concerning that MK/Russell thought that back 3 would be a good enough unit. Signed all of those CB’s and only Wright has been a worthwhile addition

Not hot drinks in the Don Rogers at half time

Smith's a cunt but he scores. Would do the same in any other league 2 team.

I'll be surprised if McGregor is here by end of Jan, too many scouts sniffing about already.

Clarke's a good player. Some with Oforboh. Cox likewise. Those 5 players could be excellent in any league 2 squad.

There are some good players in the team, and a fantastic crop of scholars coming through. They're just undercut by piss poor management of the club (I'll put Holloway aside, he's only the latest distraction in the cavalcade of nonsense that's gone through the back rooms since 'Clem' took over), including the coaching and recruitment strategy.

Do I think we can win this? Probably. Do I think season's over and we're relegated? Yep.

I would love for someone to quote me in a few months time when we're flirting with the playoffs. But I think I'm pretty safe.

Shambles from top to bottom this club.

You got to hand it to Drinan. Proper 100%er, just the sort of player you need in a relegation struggle

I mean on paper a back 3 of Hall, Delaney & Wright does look alright. Hall & Delaney have on grass been atrociousz

Shit half an hour. Better after that.
Wind a massive advantage for Morecambe & hopefully one we can take advantage of in the second half.

We need the next goal & we need it quickly.
Drinan has added some endeavour which we were sorely lacking up to that point.

Maybe a few years ago that would’ve looked decent on paper. Grant Hall is absolutely finished as a FL quality player. Wright and Delaney on paper with another possible defender would’ve been okay as a back 3, but all 3 of them as a unit was never going to work.

Att: 6,494 (150ish Shimps)

I think Minturn's better than Delaney and Hall personally

2-2

Delaney.

Maybe we should play Delaney up front!!

Every one we criticise scores...

The other nine are shit too.

Bycroft is on fucking drugs.

Lovely!

Bycroft for certain

Good job he was unchallenged

Bycroft isn’t great, granted but just look at those conditions ffs

Thier keeper looks a bit dodgy too.

Probably because the thick cunts on here can do nothing about the ownership, which is exactly the same as the clever cunts like you.

I like Bycroft but in the last few games he has been making some poor decisions, not sure that mistake was weather affected as much as concentration affected.

4D is doing something - he’s never going again remember!!
(apart from today)

I agree he hasn’t looked great all season but there is no way you can say the conditions aren’t having effect - all you need to do is look at them

Probably got a free ticket, so that doesn't count.

Poor miss by them but he was offside anyway.

Butterworth overhitting every pass this half.

Smith getting frustrated with Bycrofts passing, having a proper moan at him.

Morecambe coming back into it now…

Ofoborh gets away with a bad 1st touch.

Brown on for Hall.

..and Smith at Ch!

Cotterill on for Ofoborh.

Obligatory Cotterill appearance

Brown slots into RB in a flat 4 at the back.

Morecambe defence all over the place.

Would like to see McGurk or Glatzel on for Tshimanga now.

Ex player curse incoming….

In that case it's time to say Tshimanga is Tshite

We’ve dropped off since we’ve scored.
That was our time to turn the screw. All gone a bit flat now.

I don't think bringing on Brown in a relegation 6 pointer is the right tactical decision if you ask me.

If Town lose this, I'm also pretty certain none of us will want to hear about any 'gravveeeeyaarrrdd' bullshit either.

Glatzel and McGurk clearly don't believe in ghosts.

#MoreLifeInDerekAcorah

I got the impression that Brown was an attacking midfielder capable of getting on the score sheet.

Bringing him on at right back is an odd decision

Odd people make odd decisions

Brown is scaring me!

If only we had an actual right full back, maybe another young kid with bags of talent?

If it wasn't the right time for McGregor it surely isn't the right time for Brown out of position.

Can we Tsubstitute Tsomeone please!

McGurk on for Butterworth
Glatzel on for Tshimanga

2-3

Oh dear

Fucking Hallam Hope

That is woeful defending again

Hallam Hope Swindon Hopeless.

Relegated!

Lost the picture and just got onto the Morecombe page to see it

If Minturn doesn't start next game, I'm starting a riot

Mcgurk is a liability.  Last match he conceded free kick for Accrington second.  Today a poor thread pass straight to morcambe defender.  Bloody liability

Bugger. Is it April already?

We are dropping out of the football league. Fuck.

Sad times.

This is a team going down and Holloway is doing nothing to dispel my concerns about him. Everything he does is scattergun, there doesn’t appear to be a plan.

A manager whose last job was taking Grimsby out of the league with a number of the coaching staff who oversaw our lowest ever league position. Says it all really

Get in touch with 4D. He seems to know how these things work.

I was channeling my spiritual nuances towards Sleepy Hollowhead  ;)


Tbf to Hope, not that it'll bring much solace, but he didn't really celebrate. I'll respect him for that.


That was very much my thoughts too. Also, I know it was rather basic but good call on the impending goal scored by former player...unfortunately for us lot  :cry:

Got to say, it may have taken another 15 minutes but Holloways subs are what's cost us so far.

The team lost all shape & momentum when he took off Ofoborh & Hall.

A central midfielder at right back is always a bad idea but an 18 year old making his home football league debut is the height of stupidity.

If anyone needs a mild silver lining, Oxford are losing 6-2. Admittedly in the championship, so it's a fairly thin lining on an absolutely enormous black cloud, but there you are.

It's all we have to be honest

Morecambe full of confidence now.

It's kinda mad that if Town get a point out of this, many will be ecstatic and probably cheer the team off the pitch.

If ever there was an indicator to the masses, that we would like this board to fucking sell up then now would be it. Read the fucking room Clem, you absolute cunt.

If you seriously believe this shit show can actually survive with the team we have..
A manager whose team selections and subs are even more bewildering than Kennedys

You are seriously deluded...

Carlisle winning

Chalked off

Think we’d gone a bit flat so definitely needed changes.
Not the ones we made though.

Why are we just getting Bycroft to hoof it long?

It goes nowhere near our players

5 mins added.

Thank you! Better deluded than tedious.

No they aren't lolz

At least we still have a club ghost

If tedious is concerned about STFC dropping out of the league without a fight then I'll take that.

This is so utterly depressing isn’t it!

FT 2-3

Shit.

A succession of terrible managerial appointments from a terrible hierarchy has done for us

Absolutely disgusting.

No. Tedious is not relenting in your endless miserable posts.

Joint bottom of league 4 nice one Clem

One point from Accrington & Morecambe simply isn’t acceptable.

We are done. No redeeming positives in this squad. Not even like our players are making up for their lack of ability with effort & good game management. Something Morecambe did well.

We are done as a football club.
Hopefully Clem does the decent thing & liquidates us so we can all move on with our lives.
Usual suspects no doubt with a hard on for our defeat, they love it…

Can Clemente, Holloway, matchday guests, Casper the friendly ghost and all the other ghouls please just f*ck off

I reckon you need a night out with Cowley.

I give up !

Are you for real?

Must be odds on for relegation now, no redeeming features to this squad and Holloway looks exactly what many feared with a scattergun approach spouting absolute nonsense!

I can’t believe the performance after we equalised. I’m utterly convinced every other club in this league would’ve built on that equaliser and really put Morecambe to the sword. We looked so timid after equalising. Apathy all round the ground. Don’t care if people clap or boo but there wasn’t really either. Just a shrug of the shoulders. Resigned to relegation.

Fair fucking fucks to that contingent of about 66 Morecambe fans. Not many will travel to see that shit on probably one of the most dire days of the year. So that's the only light I can glean from all of this at first thought.

Away fans in the lower leagues. Marvellous.

Just fuck off out of this club now Clem, you can’t do anymore damage, feel physically sick

Utter crap

Really don't know what the publicity addict,tenth rate amateur comedian,village idiot will say about that

And you need a love in with Morfoni and the rest of his sidekicks

Tell what a wonderful job he's doing....

Honestly you couldn't make it up!!

When he does, it may be after 7.30 p.m.

Just because a poster doesn’t make every post the same thing about us going down & morfuni being cunt doesn’t mean they think he’s doing a good job.

They just don’t feel need to make it their whole tef personality

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I'm not saying you've called me out but I would like to make it clear, that whilst I've been pretty negative about football concerning STFC {understandable eh?}...in no way do I ever want Town to lose. Nor do I want them to fall out of the EFL or get liquidated.

But I do know of some folk you talk about, who have perpetually had a raging lob on for any STFC loss.

To be honest, I am hugely frustrated about the results but there is nothing in my hands that will put that right. A different owner would possibly help but I cannot see how prophets of doom spouting when things go badly will cure anything.

Anyway, love to the family and see you at Accrington.

Are you serious?

We’re bottom of the football league

It just isn't worth caring about any more. We are finished.

That's no way to talk about 4D  ;)

You wouldn’t have been on my lob on list
(there’s a sentence I never thought I’d ever type)

People in DRS actually clapped them off

ST since 1983 I’m done  won’t be at the next game

Clem just fuck off amateur and embarrassing

Yes but I think the point is posting calling Morfuni a cunt 472 times a week won’t make a blind bit of difference.

Not calling him a cunt 472 times a week doesn’t mean you support him & think he’s doing a good either.

Ah the classic fan implosion after a sorry defeat.

This is categorically the lowest ebb in the clubs history. The irony that they unveiled a statue commemorating one of our highest points this week is not lost on me.

If I genuinely cared about running a good club, and this was my money being pissed up the wall I'd be fucking livid. If I was in it for other reasons, such as using the club as a laundromat of sorts, then I would be apathetic.

Is there any gravel left in the fan park by the way?

That's actually really upsetting. You've gone soft in your old age  :)

You can't just switch off "caring" after 60 fucking years as a supporter

I do not and have never wanted STFC to lose, or gloated when they have.

However I can excercise my right as do many others have on this thread and previous threads

To comment and complain at an abysmal performance as we also do if we have played well.

However it seems certain posters want to eradicate that right by call everyone with a negative post as tedious, and yes sometimes some of us do comment frequently the same thing .......if we are constantly poor.

But they have their wsh, I'm coming off for the rest of the season.....no point commenting on a supposedly free forum anymore....

Couldn't be arsed to offer a prediction . it's probably safe to say that we are fucked .  those spaffing over hollow way must be feeling a bit sheepish now.

Tbh, if there is one place where there is the opportunity to vent, then the TEF has been a great mediator in accommodating that. It's probably also a place where what is said is a very tiny corner of the internet so I don't think the impact of someone '...spouting impending doom...' on here is going to be too far reaching either.

Granted, you might not enjoy that experience but I'm sure mods will remind you that there is an ''Ignore'' button, if you wish to make your user experience a little more echo chamberish  :)

I'm going to put my keyboard down and am going to have a massive wank. That should help bringing about the downfall of the Trump administration.

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Pork Markets?  :soapy tit wank:

We misheard and went for Poor Marking instead

To be honest, it's mainly yours that I find tedious. Someone has helpfully suggested that I put you on ignore but, as you're taking a sabbatical from this Morfuni fanclub, I won't bother.

And here's Hollowhead...

:clap:

Ollie, or

Lettuce pray...I think prayer is all we have left  :(

Holloway:
- Got to defend better than that in the first 20 mins
- They showed desire and we didnt
- That was nothing like we prepared or trained to do
- We didnt impose ourselves
- Little things make huge difference
- Liked the fight back
- Drinan made an impact
- Wanted us to play different
- Well done to them, but that was awful
- They have made it twice as hard
- We have got to show more fight than that
- When we were in the ascendancy we didn't push on
- Feeling in the changing room is horrendous
- We need to have more belief
- They had nothing to lose and threw everything at us
- Overall, it aint good enough
- Players have to play in the way they train
- They have to show more aggression out there
- If they want to be here the whole season,
- Not too happy as Holloway wantedf that feel good feeling
- We have got to stop letting goals in
- We need to defend a darn sigght better as a team
- Bitterly disappointing
- We've fought back and given it away
- Brown: Wanted to pin them back by putting an attack minded person there. Not sure Brown knew how to do it. But Holloway was told he could
- Struggling with people with fitness
- Delaney running on empty at the end
- Hall struggling after just coming back
- Sobawale: Chose McGregor ahead of him. Then had a more attacking sub on the bench instead. Holloway said he didnt do what he wanted him t o do in training. Other people did better. Holloway has every right to pick who he wants
- We had a weather and momentum advantage and we couldn't see them off! Holloway was annoyed.

Another car crash summary by Holloway. He's one of those managers who tries to give the impression that anything bad out on the pitch is nothing to do with him( a bit like Dyche). He tells us Delaney's not fit and running on empty and then leaves him on for 90 mins with Minturn unused on the bench. He tells us Brown has been impressive in midfield and then puts him on at RB. He says we had the momentum at 2-2 and then makes ridiculous changes.
The bloke is a complete disaster and has been for years.

Absolutely wild to leave out Sobowale if he was fit. All our discussions are about how you work with two of our best players being right backs, and we've ended up with two different makeshift RBs for 70 minutes while both were fit.

Delaney:
- Disappointed and frustrated
- We were on top when they scored the 3rd
- When we were on top we should have kept pushing and kept tight at the back
- Conditions were tough, but that can't be an excuse. They played to them better than we did
- If we kept pushing for the last 15 mins then we would have got the winner. But got caught on the counter
- We do different shapes in training. So we are comfortable with different formations
- Need to put this behind us and push on.
- Need to step up and give fans something to be happy about
- Good week's training.
- Got caught on the hop twice early on, but showed courage and grit to get back to 2-2
- First challenge is to stay in the FL. Need to start winning games
- Fitness: A long time out, but glad to be back and finding rhythm.
- Not too fussed about the goal given the result

Fjortoft:
- There is no specific diagnosis. Holloway and Delaney said the same word
- Its up to them on how they get out of this
- Cup might be a good distraction next week. If they win then it might bring confidence, but if they lose, it doesnt matter as its the cup.
- It will give an extra week for the new manager to diagnose and work on the problems

Need his pace at the back.

I think you need to wake up, "fans" like you are the problem, and that's loosely

Don't leave me hanging. Loosely what?

Terrible 2nd half substitutions.
Nothing against Jaxxon Brown but we should never bought a young lad on when we’re in the midst of a 6 pointer relegation scrap today would have destroyed his confidence,

Cotterill was bad substitution today as well baffling to take Ofboroh off

Don’t know what Holloway see’s in Grant Hall a complete passenger today may as well have played with 10 men.

There’s clearly friction between Bycroft and Smith so one needs to be dropped as it’s not good for the team

I've been saying we were in trouble for a bit.

Truth be told I didn't really believe we could actually go down, not deep down..

Today is the acceptance we can. We absolutely can. We've lost to the two teams below us at home FFS.

Mom: soapy tit wank. No


Oh boy.

We got back in it, had the wind, and still managed to lose. To a Halem fucking Hope goal.

Thought the final substitutions were a step too far in trying to win it. We were too weak.

And this isn't a thing against Brown. But why the hell would you throw him on in a critical game like that because "you were told he could" do this and that.

We're fucking going down and some people still clapped them off. What the fuck is wrong with our fan base?

According to some on here, half of them are cunts and the other half are enlightened beings, if a little negative.

Poor squad assembled yet again, managed my a clueless imbecile. Downwards we spiral, with barely a whimper.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFFsDIF_5-Q

Second half subs pretty much killed us off. Cotterill was playing right back for the last 25 minutes ffs.

Solowale probably one of our better performing players this season could've slotted in and have a better attacking presence than Cotterill and Brown combined.  

Not really fair on Brown, not his fault, but were not in a position to showcase youngsters and loans at the moment, were in a bloody fight.

Sometimes I do wonder if the powers above interfere with selection?

How?

There have been rumours that the powers that be do pick the players!

Can't imagine that egomaniac manager would agree to that

Bycroft, why is he still being picked, hes a liability with no command of his area, need a new keeper in January. First half we were a shambles, why play such a high line with two slow centre backs clearly a factor in there 2nd goal. Holloway got us back in it with Drinan substitution, but his subsequent ones made no sense, we look so lightweight when mcguirk / cottrell play. Where is there any desire in the team, as Morecambe had it in plenty, we surrendered two early goals and then rolled over after getting to 2-2. I sadly believe that we will go down this season.

Me neither. Until we appointed Holloway. That's when it sunk in for me

I think the short answer is that there's no confidence that Barden is any better.

Nemo your right both Bycroft and Barden are meh, which cant breed confidence in our defence

They have not dominating their area and poor kicking in common.  It really doesn't matter which one is selected except Smith and Barden may not have a grudge going on.

Give it 10 minutes

I mean some fucking defending might help the keepers out a bit…

We had no idea how to create pressure in the 2nd half, in response to their high line. When the wind is like that, and we’ve no pace up front, the high line makes sense. We couldn’t play one in the first half, as we had no pace at the back. We had no pace at the back because Holloway had decided that one of our best players this season, in Sobowale, wasn’t even worth a place on the bench. There’s so much wrong our side, in almost every way.

But, there’s a long, long way to go, and every game now matters. We have to fight for it. We need a new GK in Jan, we need to settle on a shape and a starting XI, so that players can start to form partnerships around the pitch.

Yet you're the most opinionated cunt on here, with a billy big bollocks way of posting.  Prove me wrong.  Yeah, I'm fucking angry.

No, not going to prove you wrong.
My bollocks are huge.

You cunt  :D

I'm fucking angry, any hope left?

That 3rd goal was terrible. Keeper seemed to just back off.

...........aside from rearranging the deck chairs, nope.

I hate the helplessness of it all. Our club us being fucked over.

It'll get worse in January. It always does with this lot.

I genuinely get the anger but the fan base very much seems to be split into three categories right now.

Those that are meh & detached from the whole thing.

Those that are only interested in the football on the pitch and will at least clap the players for effort even if they are shit.

Those who are angry about it.


However, from what I see the anger is being massively misplaced. There is a lot of anger towards those who clap and/or those who just want to watch a (shit) game of football. The fact they clap makes no difference to anything & getting angry at them & calling them out on social media does nothing but make people look like aggressive dickhead (imo) it will not help with anything.

There is also a lot of anger towards Clem & Co - which is fine that’s where it should be going but again, expressing that anger on social media / forums doesn’t really achieve anything. Clem isn’t suddenly going to join the TEF so go ‘poster x, y & z called me a cunt, better sell the club’


What the fanbase needs is something to galvanise us & unite us in wanting change. If being bottom of the football league doesn’t do it (and it’s looking that way) then the only other option is a publicly known figure(s) with a boat load of money telling the world he’s interested in buying STFC.

Of course the big question is how we find said person & get them to the forefront.
I guess that has to fall on the Trust?

I'm smazed at how lethargic they are. Useless. I want to knock someone's lights out, but that's just me. :)

Maybe they were beasted in training this week with the shuttle runs? Certainly, they looked confused so maybe too much physically and mentally left on the training ground.

Just got home, 3 hours of stewing on that performance/result.

We are now officially the worst team in the entire football league.
Both of the teams below us have beaten us on our own patch.

We are fucking doomed with the fucking clown show in charge.

Someone said today that it’s the players, as we change manager & nothing gets better.
But we changed the players (from last season) and we haven’t improved.
Some blame Russell for recruitment, but it’s likely he’s doing what he’s been instructed to do.

Fundamentally the problem lies at the very top, you just have to recall the share debacle.
That kind of lacklustre attitude seeps down through everyone else.

We can start looking at away days at Rochdale, Halifax, Solihull & Yeovil next season.

That’s if we survive after relegation!

The miles feel longer don’t they.
I’m about done. It’s depressing and we are in free fall.
These scum bags will finish us.

We will, for a short while anyway.

Income will be down, but so will costs.

The dodgy financial deals will continue, for example buying tickets with the proceeds of crime & washing the money by getting it back in admin costs would still work in the National League (if that’s what they’re doing ;) )

Erm, just hang on a minute. Anthony ''I don't know'' Fuck Hall has been posting and lurking on here for months. Ever since he had a face like a slapped ass at the Fans Forum he's been on the TEF.

I thought Clem was Bob1978 by proxy  :girlgiggle:

Not quite as long a trek for me. We left as stoppage time started and got home at 645..
We were fucking awful /, even once we equalised and looked lost when Morecambe were there for the taking .
This can't go on any longer, we're doomed if things don't change.
At what point do the protests start?

On your new nickname for Anthony Hall, it's been bothering me that you repeatedly choose to close the speech marks after know and not fuck. Is this because fuck is his actual middle name?

Depends if Clem springs anymore surprises.

I still have this little dream that Andrew Fitton is going to have a Christmas drink with some wealthy friends, hatch a plan, and rid us of the clowns in charge. Someone has to save us…

I thought the statue looks great. It’s a great tribute to the team of ‘69. It’s also a bit like parking a Lamborghini in the drive whilst inside the roof is leaking and the toilets don’t flush.

The irony of that being on show for the first time today was quite something.
 

This is why I don't think a pheonix club is the worst idea. Start the recovery early instead of carrying on in purgatory for another decade or two.

He'd have to actually want to sell though. He's already priced buyers out.

I’m not sure I buy into that though. Surely he’ll get tired / bored of it all at some point. He’ll never realise his inflated valuation. He has to sell for less, unless the club really is serving some other financial purpose for him or he doesn’t actually get to choose because Standing and Co really own the club.

Sell anything worth something for the lowest offer and then replace with the poster boy for BUPA

Same every year

It's more to do with the real quote from the man himself of saying ''I don't know'' when he was often asked about figures or a something that he should have been able to answer easily or at the very least, have noted down and prepared, ready to answer.

I put the Fuck in intentionally as it flows better {Anthony ''I don't know'' Hall, just doesn't seem as good tbh}. As for his middle name, it could be possible  ;)

One other thing, Holloway mentioned that he didn’t pick Sobowale (even for the bench) because he hadn’t trained well enough in the week, yet he picked Jaxon Brown, because someone else had told him he could do a job (therefore presumably Holloway hadn’t seen him train yet).
Then he puts him on at RB, which was a total disaster, so much so that he then had to put Cotterill there.  Yet more madness.

Highlight of the day, Harry Smith shouting (Someone lay a glove on the cunt) about their CF

Hallam Hope goal looked offside at the time and I think still looked offside on the highlights albeit viewing from a small screen. Anyone else think that?

Looked offside at the time, but couldn't be sure.

Also can't really tell from  ifollow with certainty.

And the four teams above us all have games in hand.  We’re FUCKED

None of the defence appeals for it or looks at the lino after the goal

He was onside

Haven’t seen a mention of the ref not sending off their #23.
He’d given a foul against him, the player then reacted by having a toddler tantrum, the ref was running towards him, got his yellow card out to book him, realised he’d already been booked & then put his card away. Morecambe almost immediately subbed him.

Harry Smith, keeping it classy since 1995.

Amazingly over 6,300 home fans turned up to watch that, including me. Club don't deserve half that.

Didn't feel like 6300

But even so, I have one question. If you are in the arkells with the rain blowing directly at you, and you sit at the front with limited roof protection, why on earth wouldn't you move back up the stands!

Just out of interest, do you ever read your posts back Batch?

Er, not as much as I should. Obviously.

Part of the problem is the autocorrect only correcting after I move to the next word. I swear it looks ok before that!

But mostly my reading glasses are never to hand.

I'll make more of an effort as it's even annoying me.

;D

Afwul awful day for a town fan.

Muted anger and apathy as i left the Arkells which was boosted by a load of Pompey fans.

We just had to win that game and we didnt, we fucking lost by an odd goal again.

Baffling team selection...again...where the fuck was Sobs?

Got back into it and then collapsed again. Never looked like scoring and equaliser.

I think i made peace with myself ...we are fucking doomed and no point getting myself angry about it anymore.

There is of course enough games left and a transfer window in January but who the fuck would want to come here? Another throw of the dice for someone out of contract or not technically good enough.

I have made two agreements with myself as a Town fan, I would not pay to see town play in the Tin pot cup with U21s in and i wouldnt follow the Town if they went non league. Looks like i wont be at the CG next season.

Or the following 10 seasons ;)

You'd be better off with an agreement not to fund these crooks than a non league one.

I'll follow us irrespective of what division we're in and how crap the football is if I'm comfortable my money isn't being misused.