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Big match this. You can tell by the lack of a matchday thread.

Some mildly interesting remarks coming out the press conference

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/24565056.press-conference-live-barrow-afc-v-swindon-town/


We have an identity. Yay


Offy Off? Must have had a falling out.


Awakawe-away?

PLAY OFOBORH AS THE HOLDING MIDFIELDER FFS

Depressingly, this is a gimmie for pals at Barrow .

2-0 to them.

a defensive gaff will lead to one of their goals.

Barrow 0-2 Swindon  Attendance: 3,202 (460)

He's going out on loan most likely.

Also manager has said that he's not bothered when the first win comes  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

1 : 1, attendance 4,323.

That's as good as when he said we'd lose loads of games this season... No shit!

…that’s one the same level as three draws is the same as a win…

That's a good attitude to have, it must have rubbed off on the players  :D

 What a load of :horse:

Barrow 2-1 Swindon 3,321 (273 Swindon)

I'm taking it to mean he's not in a panic and can sleep at night. Its a results business. I'm sure he actually wants to win every game.

What a load of bollocks that is about Ofoborh. Since joining last year he has been available for every single game and to use the healthscare as a reason AFTER  we offered him a deal is a joke.

They really talk to us like we are idiots don't they. Just say it how it is, we have signed more fullbacks and midfielders so can't really afford to keep players like Khan,Ofoborh or Uwakwe so need them off the wage bill

Here is a novel idea, keep them not sign shite and we would have a much better bench

This is exactly the context he meant it in, he said it last week before Crewe too but explained it better then.

Barrow 2 Swindon 0 att: 3,368 (310 Town fans)

Cheers. Must have missed it on my international travels :)

Ofoborh won't play for us again

Which is a joke. Him and Kilkenny sat in front with a roaming midfielder would be perfect

I am with you, but it's pretty clear now it was a fan appeasing signing, without the green light from Kennedy, which makes no sense to anyone but Kennedy.

…are we terminating his contract then?

…because if I was a betting man - I’d say Kennedy will be gone before Ofoborh’s contract runs down.

Kennedy needs to get some results, he can only rely on his Irish charm to cover the fact he seems to be a bit of a bell for so long.

The “I’m intelligent enough to…” comments will hit really poorly in a couple weeks if these results continue

He appears to be attempting to take the pressure off his squad, which looks good enough on paper.  But, wins and more bums on seats are of course essential.

Why? Do we have a (speculated) reason what's gone on?

He refused to help Gunning washing Clementes' car

No huge loss. Plugged a gap last season, but has been lacking this season.

Here is my question. Russell as DoF extended his contract in the summer? Why? Same with Khan, why? Almost like there is no proper direction at all or Russell is shit at his job.

Totally self inflicted then

Well yeah. They presumably thought Khan was going to get bids but at least he's off the wage bill.

Could have used Offy's wage for someone else

On Oforborh signing his new deal New Swindon boss Mark Kennedy said: "I've watched his games back from last season. He brings not only a physical presence to the team but technical quality too." Fast forward a few months and apparently Kennedy is saying he’s not physically up to it and anyway he’s behind all the other midfielders including Jake Cain.

Bang on

Heard he refused to take the players lunches down to Beaversbrook

To be fair,at the end of last season,securing his signature was seen as a good thing by most

I concur - the defensive midfielder has been found lacking this season playing as a #8 but half as lacking as Cotterill playing deep.

Ofoborh is a more than adequate defensive midfielder for this level - we all saw that last season.

Kennedy is the one wrong here, no more, no less.

There has obviously been a falling out between Kennedy and Ofoborh since he was hauled off in the Walsall game.  If he isnt making the bench in the U21 Cup down at Exeter then he is as good as gone.  For his own sake, he needs to get a loan move away and get some football under his belt.  A real shame as he could have been a good asset for Town.

As for tomorrow, I know it goes without saying but christ, we bloody need a win.  2-1 Barrow.

Or he's not training well enough or is not fit enough and so is not in the squads

This... for anyone questioning my "won't play for us again" post.  We have all seen this before right?  Numerous times, it's nothing new.  You don't tout an "experienced" player for a loan move, unless you have no intentions of him being part of your playing squad.  The fact that we have done it a couple of months after getting him on a new contract just sums up the disorganisation of the recruitment side of the club

But he was towards the end of last season after being out for a couple of seasons, and he was a few weeks ago when he started the season with us?  I very much doubt it is as simple as that, although I agree he came back looking heavier than the end of last season, but that is on the manager and coaching staff in pre-season.  Yet Kennedy felt that he was fit enough to tranform from a DMC to a box to box midfielder..  the whole thing stinks of something else. 

Yep, for me something does not feel quite right about it.  He started against Chesterfield, Crawley (subbed straight after he scored), Walsall (hauled off at HT), came off the bench at Crewe and has not been involved since.  It could be that he is not training well, or has a knock but for Kennedy to come out and mention his previous health issues didn't sit right with me.  It may have helped if he had been sitting in that DM position rather than Cotterill.

Kennedy clearly wants to play with a playmaker and two more forward players in midfield, so no place for a CDM. Ofoborh played because he was the best option before Kilkenny & Butterworth signed.

The fact that he didn’t play on Tuesday would suggest a falling out, as he would surely be a backup at the very least

Rumour has it he went home after finding out he wasnt playing against Notts County

That would make sense, as the manager you couldn’t let that go

Winning and falling out with players ala Di Canio is all well and good.

Not being to able to win a bun at a Carnival is a different matter.....cutting our nose to spite our face!

Being dropped from this current team would clearly be a slap in the face.
Think I would have gone home as well.
If correct Kennedy needs to watch himself cos things can turn septic very fast especially when you are not winning.

Remember Jermaine Hylton walking out away at Northampton😁

Yeah, he might not look back on 1 goal in 39 with any great fondness, or the 3 goals in 51 in the SPL.
Maybe the stint in the Lithuanian A league for being brave enough to to move abroad.
Still only 31 though & still time to finish the career at Redditch.

The club took a big risk with Ofoborh.
Would prefer him to play & be given a chance in his preferred position but it's a cutthroat business rightly or wrongly.
He may well get a loan in NL but I'd be surprised if an EFL club were prepared to take a punt.
Whatever happens, hope it works out for him.

Well put Bob, I think we took a punt on him because he was a goal machine at Redditch but that was as good as it got. I vaguely remember that he was homesick and another contributing factor why he couldn’t settle here.

And he claimed that his living conditions were very poor and the club was unfriendly. 

That was Jordan Stewart the irish kid

I heard that he was dropped because of a dust-up in training

Too much Mr Muscle?

Pre match working class utopia in The Furness Railway.

When peering at Barrow from above in Street View, one can’t help but be impressed by the orderly grid layout of terraced houses juxtaposed with the smooth curves within the green spaces.
Much like a more modern version of the Nazca Lines but sadly overlooked for UNESCO World Heritage site status, it's just a matter of time.

Suspect that the BAE Systems employees who have to take their turn working in Barra may look at it differently though.

Some of the stops on the way here, Silverdale, Cark, Roose?! sound like a journey through Westeros.
Our football is dark & full of terrors.

As is usual for some away days in the far northwest
engineering works prevent a timely escape by train so a weekend medicinal sojourn it is.
Never mind, I’m a Sagittarian, we like to travel.
Apparently.

The near 7hr journey home tomorrow would be greatly buoyed by 3pts, even 1.

Looking at the positives, some green shoots of player promise are starting to appear, Kilkenny, Butterworth, Sobowale, Cotterill even, although absent today.
The overall team press has been pretty good as well, arguably the best since the promotion season. Still early days in that respect.

Looking forward to seeing Cox thrusting down the wing at some stage.

Hoping for an improvement in tracking back & closing down.
Essential stuff for being “hard to beat”.

Ofoborh? Yeah a shame that he looks to be out of the picture, but not the end of the world.
A more mobile midfield could yet work out but the focus of the microscope would then shift to Clarke if it hasn’t already.

If football clubs were minerals than Barrow would be hematite, hard but brittle & STFC would be iron pyrite, all false allure followed by a bad smell when it breaks down.

Enjoy the game folks.

I highly doubt that Kennedy will agree but I liked the look of Barden on Tuesday and would try him over Bycroft, also I would prefer Butterworth over Cotterill.

Personally I would go with this team.

                Barden
       Wright    Hall    Freckleton 
Sobowale                             King
      Kilkenny  Butterworth  Clarke
            Smith    Tshimanga

I cant see for 1 minute that Kennedy will agree, maybe a little harsh on Bycroft but hes not started the season great and could do with some competition for a starting slot.

Loving your work as always Wobbly Bob  :clap:

We will win 4 -1 today start of the title push .

Wouldn't change much of that mate. Maybe Cox on the left and Minturn for Freckles. Thought personally Smith and Tshimanga might have had a run out together on Tuesday

I would pick Cox over king possibly if hes fit enough, rumours are hes not quite ready yet though.

I like the idea of Smith and Tshimanga up front. I love Glatz but hes just not fitted into the system yet really.

Cotterill is away with Wales so that's quite likely, I think it's harsh on Bycroft to be dropped having been beaten by two worldies.

Its not just that it was Walsall as well playing on my mind, last week he wasnt at fault for the 1st goal but I think his positioning for the 2nd was a little more suspect, but as I said it may be a bit harsh on him but I want Bycroft to know he has to earn his place in the team.

I spend too much of my life walking to and then waiting for trains on one of those stations, we do have dragons in the hills round here...

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3 changes.

Ofobohr on bench. soapy tit wank

Cain at Wing Back, or Freckleton at Full back

I would think it will be the 3 at the back with Cain LW/LWB as we started at Exeter, and in which Cain did fairly poor in that role. At least Cox is on the bench.

Sobo should be starting for me.

Unless it's Freckleton LB King RB. Cain LWB would be...risky.

Please don't tell me that's Cain at wingback with to wingbacks on the bench

Well let's hope he suprises us, I never slag the line ups as usually backfires so let's wait and see what happens

Its going to be this i would think.

                   Bycroft
       Wright    Hall    Freckleton
King                                     Cain
      Kilkenny  Butterworth  Clarke
            Smith    Tshimanga

Its this, though Killkenny is the middle of the three, Butterworth left of the three.

Not sure about Cain at wingback, but during his spell for the Exeter game he actually put in some decent balls into the box from that spot. So perhaps worth a look to see.

Yes the midfield 3 seem pretty interchangable under Kennedy but Clarke seems to play more wide right and I am sure Butterworth more left probably as he did at Exeter.

Cain is definately a better crosses and deadball player than King at left back, I hope Cain is allowed on the corners over King as King wasted so many last week vs County with only 1 of 9 corners reaching its target of Smith.

Barrow still not turned on the iFollow link yet. Normally its in place exactly an hour before KO in all games.

Cain played very advanced on Tuesday which did leave Freckleton exposed at times.

If one of the midfielders is assigned to help out with cover then it could work.
Also a potential for it going badly wrong as well.

iFollow wants extra money for access, the season pass isn't working today, what a pile of manure.

*sigh*  

Predicting 3-1 loss here.

Really? I have a season pass and this is the first time I have had that.

First time for me too.

I have Octo as a backup so watching on that.

Got to be a mistake. Surely

I wonder if Zav and Hart have been scared off from attending today as their stadium is called "So Legal" which is everything they aren't! :D

Just says available soon

Put a ticket in

Sky commentator states it’s the Ref’s first league game!

Good football on the break, Smith a yard off connecting at the back post

Still saying that 3 mins into the game!

Good chance for Smith a bit out of his reach tho.

Peach of a cross just now

How do you put a ticket in? Any ideas? Can't find anything on ifollow site or STFC site

Miss by them from 2 yards over the bar.

Never mind, disconnected my VPN and it's working now

Did that a while ago, they are working on it.

Shot by Clarke blocked 6 yards out.

Good effort by King, blocked

Edit: Maybe Clarke

Bycroft low save from a 20 yard shot, punch away.

King deep cross inches ahead of Smith in the 6 yard box.

Good defending by Freckles in the 6 yard box.

Cain looking lost for me at LWB. Given the ball away a few times already.

Barrow shot inches over the bar from 20 yards.

They had an age setting up that shot from the corner.

Fairly even, or at least we aren't terrible against an in form team

Clarke down injured in our box.

Sobowale on for Clarke.

Cain and freckleton on the same side is just asking for trouble. Fuck knows what the management team are up to. Clark has been shite too, like the rest of the season.

Resolved!

Barrow have started leaving their foot in, in tackles, thats 4 now.

Haha, timed that well.

Cain already looking livlier in midfield.

Bycrofts long ball onto Smiths head so nearly finds Tshimanga in the box, inches out of reach.

Good block by Freckles as Wright was easily beaten for speed.

Solid punch by Bycroft from that corner, gets good distance.

Barrow defender slices the clearance for a Town corner.

Butterworth drills the corner into the box but its cleared.

Tshimanga and Cain have chances but it goes out for another corner to Town.

Smith with a really poor touch in the middle gives it away under little pressure.

Barrow really are a niggly team, pulling and pushing players, Kilkenny makes the most of that and wins a free kick.

0-1 Bycroft fucks up.

Bollocks. Jammy cunt

Why the fuck did Bycroft come out there and get chipped.

What was byford doing?

Bycroft at fault, but an incredible finish none the less

Shambolic. Clem out.

Hall down injured

Soft goal, no way did he shoot there either that was a cross but Bycroft in no mans land.

And the shite goes on!!

 Another disappointing afternoon on the cards

Poor positioning again.

Gifted goal will be difficult to recover from.

And there's the inevitable hall injury. Yay

Hall off injured, Delaney on.

Poor positioning but that was a cross everyday of the week.

This'll put us bottom today

Tbf it looks like a studs injury rather than his body letting him down

"We have been made aware of an issue affecting the iFollow video feed for some overseas fans.

We have been assured this is being worked on as a matter of urgency.

#STFC"

Ah that's good then

1 Morecombe goal and we are bottom of the football league!!

Well done Morfuni !

That was never a foul by Sobowale.

Down under Clem probably thinks we’re top🤣

Fuck how close was that by Kilkenny?

Keeper sent off!

Barrow have no sub keeper!

Keeper off hand ball. No other keeper on the beach for barrow!

Off off off.

No sub keeper either.

Game on

And I bet we still don't score  :soapy tit wank:

Unfortunately agree!

 They could play rush goalie without being troubled

Well the pressure is on now Town. Screw up this opportunity and there is no hiding.

Yeah, actual shots on target required here!

2-0 defeat incoming then!!

Just pepper their goal with long shots.

If we don’t win this we’ll never win or score a goal.

need to be patient and smart and work ball in...but no reason not to take shots 30yds out...put on target and be ready for rebounds.

WTF was that shit by Cain? FFS

Christ put it in the box to test the part time keeper.. brainless!

Come on Town, stay fucking calm and just try shots and crosses at every opportunity.

And they win a corner.

Absolutely brainless.

Do you get the feeling that the Sky commentator is a Barrow fan by chance? :D

I don't think town has any sort of intelligence test before they sign a player....just ridiculous waste of opportunity so far

Fucking shite by Delaney.

Yes they should take an intelligence test when they do the fitness test

We would never sign anyone!

Be fucking calm and dont just hoof it Town, FFS.

Wow a shot!

Hope not but got a bad feeling this will show just how much we struggle to create chances.

Edit to add I hate this set up.

Schimanga with a poor shot, chance goes wide.

hopefully manager informs them this is not a real GK, all they have to do is get it on frame...don't need corner shots that are perfect...frame with power

Kilkenny has the right idea.

HT 0-1

Even the commentator is taking the piss that we are not testing the 'GK'

We've been worse since they went down to 10

Barrow will Park the bus second half🤣

Do they not understand that it takes shots on target to score goals? We are pathetic!

That’s what we can all see but bet that does not happen second half!!

Just stay calm, pass the ball around and make them chase us, get crosses in when you can but make space and try some shots from anywhere around the box, pepper their goal and just test their novice keeper.

Its not rocket surgery.

There will be nowhere to hide if we fail to win.

We have signed decent players but Kennedys inability to put together any form of cohesive gameplay

He seems to have turned decent players into players looking like they've never played football before..

 let's be frank, it is unlikely that we are going to win this . who knows where we go from here

Fuck me, not only do they have a defender in goal they also only have 10 men !!. (And we still don’t have a clue what to do with the ball).  Keeper has had nothing to do in the ten minutes he’s been on the field, probably won’t change during the second half. I despair.

We’re drifting into the Beamish era😁

Talking Heads; On The Road to Knowhere. However we know where we’re on the road too.

 We will be digging below the low tide mark

Absolutely this.

See what you did there. Block Buster by the Sweet. Except everything is turning sour.

1st half 1 shot on target for Town and that was a cross by Wright.

Its not good enough.

Adver live feed: "Some Barrow Intel has revealed that Rory Feely used to play Gaelic football and has previously been named as a goalkeeper on the bench in the League of Ireland."

Feels like a watershed for Kennedy. Can he set us up second half to make the most of this massive advantage. If he can't then he deserves everything that will come his way come 5pm.

Cox on for Sobowale, the sub subbed.

Need to see some desire and urgency. Don’t see that from any of them

So forgive my lack of knowledge of the rules but if that shot on the half way line went in AND the keeper handballed it, I assume it would have still been a red and the goal would not have stood?

Jimmy Glass. #Lighteningstrikestwice.

Cox on

If we don't win this, we've entered prime banter years even I didn't think was imaginable.

Our managers are getting progressively worse  :doh:

Make Lindsey look like Fergie.

Drifting into? The Beamish line would be an improvement. In a few years reaching it will be in his new 5 year plan if the Clemmings keep supporting this shit.

🙈

Cox 1st touch a cross that wins a corner.

We won’t have a team in a few years🤣

Cox shot from 20 yards high and wide.

Cox looks like Brewitt.

At least we can stop arguing about the merits of a phoenix club as it'll be the only option.

We're a fucking laughing stock.

Saw Oxford fans on twitter laughing at San Marino having more wins than us last night.

 Cox could be a handful

Issue is a high% of the fanbase still support him. As long as that continues he’s going nowhere

Reminds me of that scene in the film “Battle of Britain” Herman Goring watching the biggest armada of bombers with fighter escort fly overhead and he says “If we don’t win this we need our arses kicked”. Well as history showed they didn’t and he did. Please let us not embarrass ourselves today.

even if barrow bunkers in....we should be able to get it close enough to have a good shot on frame.....
need to test this field player GK....

Yeah why? He must be injured as well, otherwise surely you take King off who has offered nothing, and is so slow. Sobowales pace would at least open up the pitch.

Should being the operative word.

We should take a CB off and go 433 and get Glatz on up front.

we will be relegated this season

Can we test this centre back in goal please? For fuck sake.

Throw caution to the wind :D

Freckles shot high and wide.

Can someone hit the fucking target.

Freckleton is so non league its untrue

Kick it at the f’ing goal!

has the GK/field player even had to try to stop the ball yet?
all I have seen is wasted passes and shots well over the bar

comm sounds like he wants to start yelling at these player for not testing the GK....I agree

If we don't win this I don't understand how anyone can be in denial about this.

We'll be second from bottom, away to fucking Barrow and can't beat a team without a keeper.

Fucking shooooot you cunts!!!! (on target)

20 minutes up against a rookie keeper with no shots on target, pathetic.

That wayward pass is a good image of the club at the moment. Fucking hapless.

See last post!

And against 10 men for more than half the game.

If we don’t win this I give Kennedy the next two home games… if we can’t win either of those he’s toast

 Stick Cox in the box

Cox inches over the bar from 20 yards.

No. I think 91 out of 91 other English league clubs would have managed to have him make a save by now.

Barrow looking so comfortable.

Don't seem to be worrying about us having the ball.

The strikers seemingly being bypassed and ignored.

when I coach...every time a player hits it over the bar during shooting practice they run....maybe our manager should consider this!  fucking ridiculous...

King is also fucking non league. Would rather Sobowale was still on instead of him.

Thats harsh.

Morecambe are equally shit!

Jesus! What does King offer?

Agree.

What does King or Csin offer?

So have we had a shot on target since the GK was sent off?

Then Gunning gets the job for the rest of the season.

National League will be definite for next season.

Why do we need 3 at the back, they are barely crossing the half way line. Get 1 off and get Glatzel on.

Nope more than 25 mins.

This is making me really angry

What does Kennedy offer?

Not scoring today  :crash:

Yep ridiculous.

Good cross by Cox.

It’s bizarre how an ex international winger is so negative.

We are going to get lumbered with Gunning again at some point this season

There is no good choice :suicide:

King fouled 25 yards out centrally, come on Cain.

Frecklington shouldn’t be in the team.  But then you could say that about many

Cain off, Glatzel on.

Keeper saves it.

But it was going wide anyway.

You could not make this shit up

Personally should be Delaney off or another of our 3 central defenders. What are they doing in a game like this?

Smith red card.

Smith you pillock

what a fucking prick Smith

Fuck off Harry Smith.

Smith all elbows, one caught him in the face, had to go.

I'm copy and pasting already, fuck it

Another game, another reminder we are in freefall and going down.

Has news reached the dwindling Clem fan club yet?

I’m sure the football club is cursed🤣

Stupid stupid cunt.

This lot are joke. We are such a pathetic football club.

Smith is such a dick for doing that, he has been pretty shit since arriving anyway, my patience is done with a lot of these after 6-7 games now.

That's it we are toast....

Another defeat incoming!!

Only Swindon could fuck this up as bad as we have. Jesus it’s like bloody Mike Bassett out there. Smith should be fined for that.

Absolutely moronic by Smith.

Think Smith getting red might do us a favour! We're clueless against less men

Smith has been a big waste of space this season

23 mins into the second half against a non goalkeeper & we’ve had one shot on target 🤷🏼‍♂️

 :I'm a complete mofleakin DeakPathetic  :crash:

What you all complaining about - we’ve just moved out of the relegation zone

Will we actually miss Smith for three games? Not in my opinion. If I do not see him in a Swindon shirt again it will not bother me.

Smith should be in the ressies for a few weeks after that. Absolutely ridiculous.

Glatz header easy save.

shows the lack of attacking intent we have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A

Soundtrack of the regime.

Fucking clubs a joke Kennedy out

look, I am the American so we don't have this level of professional sport much, only high level...our lower level is university sport where the kids love to play and most live and die for their school...

but watching these players, it is obvious they don't give a shit about winning or losing...they jog back when being countered....lazily stand on the field without movement on the attack....

is this the way it is always at this level where they really don't care about the club, just get a paycheck...or is this something new in recent years with this generation of player?

I just can't understand this type of effort by the player and apparently by the manager for not fixing it or finding players that do want to win.

maybe I am wrong but this is what I see....

The bookies have it right we’re going down

Do we have a rezzies?

Out of the relegation zone if it stays as it is. Woooo.

Usually in my time supporting the club they seem to try quite a bit harder than this.

Glatz carrying on but pouring with blood from a head wound thats strapped up.

Realy had enough of this shit we are a playing a system which isnt working fuckin change it. :suicide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOx3iHG6JbI

Although maybe it should be this.

Mike Bassett.
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4
fucking 2

In amongst all of this, I’ve somehow only just realised that Sobowale got subbed on and off in 20 minutes. He’s really not fancied is he?

I would have taken King off and kept Sobowale on.

fucking right we could do with him as manager in all honestly  Kennedy  is fucking useless.

The bigger point is what it says about Kennedy and making shit decisions, wasting a sub.

I believe today is the day STFC have officially died.

No direction, no clue, no tactics...

Kennedy out

Been a walking corpse for a while.

Not the answer you're looking for.

3 at the back just doesnt seem to work, in L2, ever for me.

sobowale is the one player i have been inpressed with always trying. :clap:

I think I only care enough anymore to type this. The club is a complete shambles. I’m done.

King is a hugely limited footballer.

Cox header just wide. Ironically from a good King cross.

Glatzel off, Drinan on.

we need to keep it simple we are not worst start to a season for me in along while Kennedy  realy needs to go he isnt the one for me to take us forward.

I think Kennedy has lost the plot.

Glatz off, bonus concusion sub

So 2 subs that came on have been subbed off.

Best cross of the day. Got to be 1-1

It never works, unless you have very good wingbacks, which on evidence we certainly do not!

But Russells spreadsheet wont allow otherwise will it

Fucking awful,

Glatz was very angry about going off.

No leadership out there.
No direction.
No tactical input other than get it wide slowly and spam crosses.

It's impressive how we haven't even found the feet of our forwards so far this half. Absolutely shocking stuff.

How have we been able to do that? I though the new rules were up to 5 subs with a maximum of 3 stoppages to the game?

That last sub must have been a concussion substitute, as you are only allowed to have 3 substitution stoppages during the game and we had already done that.

Fuck the style of play the club wants - we need to just score some goals and win some games. We can worry about the style when we are top of the premier league.

I realy want him out now.

It was indeed but Glatz was not happy about being taken off, he got quite angry when dragged off.

What is going on with this club. How bad does it have to be, to be getting 2pts from 5 games. I’m beginning to regret Clem ever taking over from Power now.

This is utter pigswill

Beginning?

This is the darkest I've ever felt supporting this club. At times I just laugh it off but today I am so fucking mad.

I want Clem, Hart, Kiely, Kennedy, Hall, I want all those cunts heads on a platter and the fucking drips that support this regime can fuck off as well. Go support Oxford because you do the club more harm than good at this point.

Barrow stand in keeper has made more saves and catches than Kovar made in his entire Swindon career!

Why aren't we throwing our head at that cross?

thats another player whos a shadow of his self from last season .

Anyone saying Kennedy out are being moronic. The issues are much much deeper than just the manager

Genuinely how much worse does it have to get before it gets better?

Cox the only Town player who can hold his head up after todays performance. And maybe Kilkenny.

A lot if these cunts don't fuck off soon.

A lot, a lot. Like divisions non league deep a lot.

I believe a stint in Non-Leage would help. Look how it helped Oxford rebuild. We need the dead wood shifting

We’re not coming back if we drop down there

We're fucked whoever the manager is, genuinely don't care anymore who the manager is. We're seemingly fucked regardless

 We would, at best, end up like torquay

I know you’re making a half-joking point.

But has he SAVED anything yet?

The free kick was going wide. Maybe that counts?

But to be fair, he does appear to be doing a very good impression of a completely and utterly clueless mother fucker...

There are still supporters that will defend  this regime to the end,

They will say he saved the club from Power but then has taken the club even further down the leagues..

At this point I see no way out of the current dilemma, sacking Kennedy will only bring Gunning in for the rest of the season.

hes picking the team the buck stops with him.

This is up there with the 7-4 v Aldershot. It is not a difficult task for Swindon town to assemble a team strong enough of competing in L2. We can’t even compete with a team who have an outfield player in goal.

Agreed, its far from moronic. If he doesn't get 3 points against Newport then sack him.

maybe a stint in acting is required

Agreed

We'll just keep going down under this mob. No way they'd get us back in the league.

Pure fantasy.

 Ill take the moronic aswell. :)

Thing is it’s his players and his style of play. He decided 3 centre backs and wing backs who can’t defend was the way to go.

Wing backs that can’t attack and cross a ball!

Hes done enough TBH but he doesnt need to make a save though with our attack.

 Agree with your second sentence, but what evidence has there been that Kennedy should be here?

The manager has also wasted two subs today

This bothers me too. Glatz had a head injury but he seemed more than happy staying on the pitch. Sobowale sub was just odd.

fair point

He's been to Clems house and was in the same world cup squad as Dean Kiley.

Boys on the take.

agree, it is the owner....doesn't have money to support real players, real organization...so until he sells which he seems not to want to do for atleast a resonable amount....club will go nowhere...

Tshimanga clear header well wide, awful miss.

In no universe is this squad too good to go down, with the exception of 1 or 2 players it’s full of average to bottom half L2 cloggers and we are in massive trouble. The whole idea we had a good transfer window is a myth, it’s just peoples standards are at absolute rock bottom.

What a chance! Fuck me

Commentator on Sky Plus just said King has been impressive. Looks very non league to me. If we're carrying on with this heinous system Cox and Sobo should be the wing backs.

I am not even upset by this, I am not bothered any more, its going through the motions now.

Formation shit. Tactics shit. Signings shit. Director of football shit. Manager shit. Owner shit. Football club shit.

 :clap:

TBH may as well play the youth team at this point....atleast they may want to play and win...give a fucking effort...

I get like that but right now I'm fucking livid.

I cant summon the enthusiasm to be livid now TBH mate.

:blowup: :banging: :smack:

Will anybody be at the Newport Game?

Can see the attendances lower than anything under Power very soon

Mental

Well fuck me.

I never even cheered

1-1 Butterworth from 35 yards.

Not even bothered.

 Aimless hoof

98 mins and we decide to shoot on target!

Looking forward to Kennedy saying post match that it was a good point!

it's took 99 minutes to have 1 shot on target

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Nice one lads wait till the 99th minute to do it.

Shocking goalkeeping by the non keeper!🙂

We dont deserve that.

I wouldn’t bother interviewing anyone of the after Mr. Hawse.

In Clemente we trust

Not even bothered tonight cant believe its come to that for me.

That equaliser doesn’t change much. Embarrassing day and performance

I’ll take the point if we get three next week

I just want Kennedy to admit that post match and top his current rhetoric. Some serious shit needs to change.

Absolute disgrace, Clem fuck off now, you’ve made this embarrassment.

Outfield player in goal since the first half, takes us till the 98th minute to do the obvious.

This is a new low, but won’t be long till we get lower.

Man of the match might post posted once I've been for a long walk.

Cox was the only one with a spark

Cox my MotM but Butterworth and Kilkenny did their best, the rest though were poor at best.

Well I for one am joyous for the moment! Sure it "papers over the cracks". Not sure we didn't deserve it. The only time we were truly awful was when we had the numerical advantage. Call me what you like, but if you feel absolutely nothing about a 99th minute equaliser in the moment then I don't know.
We are so poor with an extra man but that's a decent result against 3rd. It's results like that which can kick start a season

50% increase in points. Still unbeaten away!

On a more serious note. Fucking Christ that was a hard watch.

We are so, so shit. Somehow much worse than the individuals in the side.

Can we drop the none of the above option in the MOTM poll and instead have a ‘biggest waste of space’. Few candidates today. Highly competitive field.

Smith getting sent off will have done us a favour long term. We can re-boot the team over the next three games.

I didn't feel nothing, I felt absolutely furious. First time we tried a long shot, sixty minutes after an outfield player went in goal. Absolute twats.

totaly agree be nice to see what hes capable fully fit.

Keep on clapping. Moron.

Jesus H Christ how can you defend that shambolic performance.

Get those rose tinted glasses off for once

Even a 12 year old playing on kids football knows if you've got a outfield player in goal you put him under pressure......we did none of that.

Shambolic formation, shambolic tactics, brainless performance.

No I cannot celebrate a 99th minute equaliser when the opposition had 10 players and an outfield player in goal.

A joke!!

Perfectly entitled to feel nothing. Not that I understand. Yes, I know it wasn't great but personally at that precise moment I felt elated. Negative reflection is for later but as I said, it could turn our season around on the pitch at least

Felt exactly the same, just fucking basic.

Kennedy:
-   A really positive performance against a very good side
-   Battled hard and created plenty
-   About 3 weeks behind where we should be
-   Wanted to save Glatzel for next week
-   Smith was unlucky. Lost balance and had his arm pulled
-   Gives Drinan the opportunity he deserves
-   Don’t like to call people out but King was superb today
-   Didn’t like taking Cain off. He was unlucky
-   Sobowale had to come off. He didn’t do what I wanted him to.
-   Lots of positives
-   Really, really pleased with the performance
-   We are building for a whole season, not just for September.
-   This is the best squad money could assemble.

Stopped Barrow going top.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :doh:

Just fuck off Clem ffs

This is fucking embarrassing. Go before we lose our league status

I'm worried about how many of these could actually be said.

That was shit.

Players.... Only Cox can come away form that with any sense of having played football. Every pass that wasn't a simple back or side pass went wayward, half the time the player receiving the ball wasn't even paying attention and almost seemed surprised it was coming his way, midfield were useless and couldn't make a killer pass to save their lives, and was there any point having any strikers on the pitch? Matt smith is a cunt.

Manager... lost the plot. Subbing off two subs. Not sure what the half time sub of Sobowale was about as he is far more attacking than King who looked non league and never took on his man. At half time you literally need to say to the lads "you are a man up and they have a defender in goal, gets shots on target and you will score". Baffles me that it took until the final minute of the game for a player to do it.

Ownership... not much to say that hasn't been said already. Pile of wank and can all fuck off.  

Why do I think that Smith won't be missed?

He is as deluded as Adje...

You wouldn't know Barrow were 3rd in the league watching this game. Swindon far better team with 10 men. New team needs a bit of time to sort itself out..Cox plus a couple of others look promising. Lot of whinging on here - onwards and upwards FFS

Wow.

Now that is frightening.

I just wish Kennedy would drop this fucking 5-3-2 and go 4-3-3. Hopefully now Smith isn’t available we might see a change

Was pissed off during the match but all in all happy with the draw - does having a nuanced opinion make me a moron too? Hit me with it wanker.

I'm not even sure what sort of line up we can put out that i like the looks of (assuming Clarke/Hall are injured)

Maybe a 4312

Keeper

Sobowale
Wright
Delaney
Cox

Killkenny
Cotterill
Cain

Butterworth

Drinnan
Tshimanga

Are you fucking serious?

From someone who went. 

"Shouting ‘it’s not good enough at the end at the players’ and some fans telling me it’s not that bad ffs"

Ffs they walk amongst us.

While these drips are still like this, we're continuing in a downward spiral.

Unfortunately there are supporters about who will accept that shite and will believe anything the 'Messiah' Morfuni comes out with.

Only good thing today (other than the equaliser) was the fact that we only conceded one goal. 

Spot on

There's whinging because the club is rapidly declining in all areas and has been for years now.

What is the colour of the sky on that planet

I've heard of looking through Rose coloured glasses, but it seems Kennedy needs dark glasses, a stick and a dog

Cox and Kilkenny both look well above this level, would have settled for 1 : 1 at 3.00 p.m.

Seems a lot of people don't understand the bit from Nomoreheroes, i suspect they are too angry.

gaaaaaaaaah

Opportunity missed
Complete disaster overted

You're not a wizard Harry, you're a twat

Wasn't good at all, but did I cheer when it went in, yes I fucking did.
Those that didn't is like hoping we get beat week in week out, some of you are fucking odious. The Regine is shit, the management might turn out to be shit they might be good we don't know this early but do you really want us to be shit just so you can be proved right???  Get a fucking life you sad cunts!

I'm interviewing for Tansmedia

Lower league football is in a mess if Barrow are the shinning light then we're all in trouble. Every season we take on young loanees and it doesn't work. This season a different approach is being tried out and no one's happy..

I went to the Walsall game and haven't experienced such a poor display EVER!! New players been signed up since so I will judge it again in a few weeks...

Last week it was everyone is entitled to an opinion, what went wrong?

Logging on to call your fellow fans cunts is sadder, soppy bollocks.

Yep, you too, are a moron. Enjoy non league

I don’t know why I bothered to listen to this Kennedy interview, as it’s getting me more annoyed.

They/you are but Christ wanting to lose to prove a point is that sane?

Whatever cunt

That was poor. Very pleased to equalise but serious questions need to be asked. Smith should be fined a couple of weeks’ wages after that. Cox looked good when he came on and a few were individually okay but the tempo and impetus were completely lacking. On that evidence we are in for a long old season.

Stop crying lad

Do what did he say. Same as last week?

The ‘real’ Kennedy reflection:
-   The most bizarre game he’s been involved with
-   Had 2 make 2 subs in first half
-   Concede from a poor decision by one of our players
-   Ridiculous finish
-   We dominated from start to finish
-   We were down to 10 and still had 78% possession
-   There were some real positives
-   Credit to the lads
-   Pleased we didn’t shoot from everywhere
-   Pleased our patience paid off
-   The whole centre of the pitch is congested. You cannot play through people. You cant play over them as they are too deep. You have to play round. If there is another way, tell me and I’ll give you all the money I can
-   Really pleased with our patience
-   Harry Smith: Havent spoke to him. Didnt see the incident. Nobody has come to me to say it was a bad decision. Pretty sure he knows what it was and what the outcome will be. He’ll answer questions about it next Thursday when he’s seen it
-   Look at the stats. 78% of possession. Dominated every area
-   Think we have done enough to win
-   When he looks at our games, we don’t give much away. Today was another wonder goal
-   We don’t give good chances away
-   Over 5 games statistically we have been very good
-   78% doesn’t flatter us. But possession based football doesn’t win games.  Kennedy gets ‘pissed off’ with that.
-   For 70% of the game we had the same numbers of players.
-   Clarke: Made an intelligent decision. His calf didn’t feel right
-   Hall: Quad, but doesn’t know the damage
-   Cox: Thought he was ridiculously good. He doesn’t hang around. He gets the ball in the box.
-   Brave decision to take Sobowale off and bring him on.
-   Thought Cox looked a good player
-   Delaney should only have had 30 mins. He was load compromised. Other players and the fact Barrow were defending made it easier on him

This is the inevitable point we have reached, sets of fans with differing viewpoints calling each other names.  Clem using the Trump playbook to a tee..

I for one am just numb to this club now, no celebration, no despair, just numb and accepting of where we are and where we are going now.  At least it means it doesn't ruin my Saturday evening/weekend like the old days..

I hate Clem for making me feel this way, but it is what it is.

No tears here sweet cheeks, perhaps remind your mates who think the world is about to end on yes a shit performance

In better news stfcboo has blocked me on twitter.

One less fucking bootlicking morons opinion to see.

You sure? You sound pretty upset. Have a WKD Blue and calm down.

Yes. Against 10 men as well. Jesus Christ

Similar to the General Election I’d guess. Last week was campaigning. Today you voted 😉

Bit old for wkd blue but I do appreciate your concern. Maybe I was quickntoncall you all cunts, perhaps just a select few

Sorry gents. Didn’t watch, didn’t listen.

What was the deal with the two players being subbed on & off again. Injuries right? …or that rotten?

Who in this day & age where you can name 7 subs don’t have a keeper on the bench?
Did we ever find out who PDCs outfield player sub keeper was?

Enjoy your evening.

Was it Flint?

No but bored of hearing the same rhetoric, yes it's shit the Regine needs to change but not celebrating a last minute winner, why?

I will thank you, the game has ended and my usual weekend regime will carry on. You enjoy yours but put the sharp implements and rope away before you make a silly choice

Bit too much cunting and moroning for my liking. This is truly depressing

Blame the last minute equaliser, otherwise we would all be suicidal

Thank you for your advice.

Am I reading that right. Has he taken Sobawale off for tactical reasons then? Says only 2 injuries ( Clarke & Hall)

Only positive from today is we get a few weeks break from watching H Smith walk round like he is Connor McGregor doing fuck all.

I’m assuming he wanted to get Cox on, but not for more than 45 mins due to his lack of match fitness.
Seems harsh on Sobowale, but clearly getting Cox on was a good call

You're welcome, if it resonates with you having read the forum for a long time and only starting to post due to the shit show this season, I think you're posts are generally quite good. I think we've all had enough of the downward movement and we're all getting itchy about it. No hard feelings

Agreed. Sadly he has been exactly as i remember and basically useless, forcing us to play one way that's completely ineffective.

In hindsight but that's possibly the most mental thing I've heard. He bought a sub on in the first half for 14 minutes

Maybe it clicks in his absence and we look back on this game as a turning point.

Apparently Sobowale wasn't doing as instructed so hauled him off. What about others who clearly weren't doing as told

Honestly it's probably the small things in life that wind me up more. I can't get my head around it

I can only imagine

I cannot remember a time when I have been so deflated about where STFC are headed. This afternoon’s performance was dire all over the place. Non too sure about the manager and his team setup.

Cheers fella.

We all want the best for the club at the end of the day. Onwards and upwards.

Today was shit . There is worse to come next weekend.

Ok, so a couple of concerns forwarded. I apologise for calling out cunts. We're all in the same boat we want the best for STFC but surely we needed harmony between fans. We're the life blood and will be here in years to come. Sorry it's frustration and there you go

I understand all the points being made today. You all HAVE the same affliction. You all care about the club. Yes you do. Expressing that care however, is proving to be a challenge whilst the club, our club, is going through challenging times.

I spent an enjoyable afternoon in old town with the current Mrs LL, Spot of late lunch, visited my mum and brother at Christchurch, had a lavender and honey ice cream from a vendor there as they had some event on. Then a lovely walk around jubilee lake, coffee and a lovely piece of lemon drizzle cake. Tuning in and out of the radio comms. It says something when Hawse and the other commentator both felt sorry for Barrow! Sat on the drive listening to the last ten minutes and thinking to myself going to be a bit of a meltdown on the forum today. Bingo.

Got a message from an old business colleague who is a diehard Bluebirds fan. ‘I got offered 4/1 on your lot winning after their goalie got sent off. No brainier’ I had to apologise on behalf of the club for that little bit of a ‘no brainer’ turning out to be anything but. See our decline has far reaching implications, reverberating around the country.

What really pissed me off today is this. Aldi in RWB do not sell beef OXO cubes FFS.

I could have watched the game on telly but I couldn’t be bothered. Have an enjoyable rest of the weekend people. Just think in a weeks time you’ll all be at it again.

Let’s hope Fitton finds a buyer soon.


Still, at least we’ve got a club eh.

I’ll celebrate a winner - when we score one…

This place is great when the basics on and off the field are being done at a minimum, the posters here are generally forgiving if they can see that the club is trying to do the right thing. The fact is that we haven't seen that since the Wellens era (maybe Garner under the circumstances).  3 years of watching us slowly revert to acting like a NL club eventually wears people down.  For most on here League 2 in unnaceptable, let alone the bottom of League 2, so if you have joined the TEF now and expect posters to be all flowers and champagne after watching a game like that, then perhaps you have chosen the wrong platform.  And after such a short stint, coming on to call people cunts for not celebrating a goal, after that preceeding 100 minutes of football, is at the least short sighted, if not just plain stupid to expect anything other than the response you got.

Attendance was 3,763 no idea how many Town fans.

Not really, having followed for a long time and resisted posting, I have witnessed many people call others cunts regardless of time frame. Please don't tell me longevity gives you privilege.

And yes when things are good things on here are great. Cunt was harsh I appreciate and apologised for that, but we have a common goal and I go back to my initial point, why not celebrate a last minute equaliser? If you were sat in the stand would you not cheer the goal?

Why don't you do one with your personal insults?So I fucking cheered when we scored, that makes me a bona fide member of the Morfuni fan club does it? You will never find in any of my posts any defence of the ownership but that doesn't stop me celebrating my team of 68 years and my father's before me and his father's before him scoring.Where have I said it was a good performance? When I said it papered over the cracks maybe? Deluded is it to say results like that can kick start a season? Didn't say it definitely will. Said we were poor when we were a man up,so that's being a "happy clapper" is it?

I didn't say that did I, and cunt has many meanings on here, depends on the context and your context was clear.  Just trying to explain how people could possibly not be celebrating a last minute equaliser that you seem so incredulous about.  Crack on fella, sounds like you are clear that you know better, i'll leave you to it.

It’s contextually isn’t it.

It’s a last minute equaliser granted but it’s a last minute equaliser against a team that have had a centre half in goal for half the game, who have been a man down for 20 minutes.

That’s a world away from a 97th Simon Cox penalty against table topping Swansea when we’ve played 3/4ths of the game with 10 men & still out played the eventual champions.

I take your point but as far as last minute equaliser go, it’s a pretty tame one that raises the question as to why did it take that long.

Granted having not watch the game I can’t comment if the lack of equaliser earlier is down to poor non threatening play from Town or super duper heroic defending from Barrow

Well said DV.

Thankful we scored, but the game wasn't the kick on from Notts County that we'd hoped. Especially given what happened in the game

It was the previous, didn't you hear Kennedy, we had 78% of possession..

I know no better than anyone else but it wouldn't stop me celebrating a last minute equaliser. Ifbit was a last minute winner on today's performance would it have made any difference?

3 draws are a win  we have our first win  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

In all seriousness we are doomed, our managerial recruitment has got worse every time  :suicide:

What can we do as a fanbase to force change ?

Anything other than 4 points from the next 3 home games then Kennedy should be a gonner

Oh and what’s Kennedys win % BTW asking for a friend 🤣🤣🤣

Nope, I haven't celebrated a goal since early last season, i'm afraid the recent club actions has knocked that out of me and this is where i am currently, and i am a supporter of over 40 years..  The problem is much bigger than what is happening on the pitch and it has sucked the joy of STFC out of me, at least for the time being.  But at least i am fully aware of what you think about people like me.

I want nothing more than the club to start acting like a club again and the team to strt making smart sensible decisions again, hopefully when they do my entusiasm will come back.

I'm same as you Bern

I think Hawes said about 100 on his commentary.

In fairness I haven’t heard Kennedy (or anything)
Dusted off the boots and played

I thought the Kennedy quotes were a spoof. Did he really say all of that?! Delusional.

Let’s hope Fitton can put some buyers in front of Morfuni.

Not going sugar coat today.  It was an awful game of football and we looked like a team made of 11 people who were picked out the crowd and only played together for 1st time.
We were slow and devoid of any ideas and I had no fucking idea what our game plan was.
Kennedy has to take blame for today the way he set us up we basically made no creavity.
Not to worry come October Clems mate Gunning will be back in charge to save the day  :suicide:

The first one was a spoof, the 2nd one wasn’t and the 78% quote is in there, twice I think

No no no, I was brash, quick and frustrated, I don't think you are a cunt or others, just intrigued why people no matter how shit wouldn't celebrate an last minute equaliser.  As I mentioned I apologise for the language I'm a truly fed up with our performances and today a couple of comments was enough.

Kennedy or Gunning?

It's a bleak choice with no alternative.

213

I prefer Gunning tbh

Me too

At least we attacked under Gunning.

My take: cumulative rubbish taking a toll. Doesn't feel like we are going anywhere, nowhere good. We were poor in the game 11v10.

I wasn't there. I only watched the first half due to other commitments. Would I have celebrated. I don't know.

Some might say why bother going if you have stopped caring. The worrying thing is thats a fair point

I know it's early but I am really starting to question Kennedy tactically already.

Ofoborh in advanced role
Cotterill deep
Clark playing out wide

Today was even weirder, Starts with Cain with 2 left backs on the bench, brings one on in first half which was needed but to then sub him is mental

Added to that he's not changed shape once today and persisted with leaving 3 centre halves on the pitch against 10 men and then says after the game he's happy we weren't just shooting at goal despite them having a defender in goal for 68 mins

Very worried if I'm honest

He’s making Jody Morris look competent…

He could soon be taking the Sheridan crown.

Dear lord. That's not criticism of you. But it's pretty damning.

 My stupidity/straw clutch is telling me that it's still very early days. There's time to turn it around. No I've no idea how

Do we know this is what he is there for or is this just guesswork

Genuinely the same as berniman, I haven't proper celebrated a goal either and it's weird. I can't relate to the team, I don't know who they are yet, iv been to one home game in the last 18 months when I would usually do 15/20. I'm in standby mode.

I never felt this under Power or jed or any previous bad owner. Clem has defeated me this time, I think because I thought we were on the way up and he was a person where we could invest in the club and enjoy the rise together.

We've been conned again and again and it's one too many. Iv said it before, I would buy a season ticket tomorrow for the right owner.

I watched up to 60 minutes, saw we were absolute dog shite

Saw we weren't getting the points against 10 men with non GK  in goal...

Decided I would rather clean the oven than watch anymore....

It is early days.

Under Gunning that game would have finished 5-3 (potentially in either direction)

Gunning was a gambler. He kept rolling the dice, sometimes he won, sometimes he lost.
It feels like Kennedy isn’t even rolling the dice.

The cynic in me says Fitton will just be another name to add to someone having another opinion and nothing being done

Morfuni
Hart
Austin
Kiely
Eddie the lawyer
The wives

I’d have rather watched you clean the oven, in all honesty.

I did a better job than that bunch of so called footballers

Would you give me a quote to do ours?

Didn’t celebrate the equaliser at all. Feels like a defeat. Disgraceful performance and heartbreaking how far we’ve fallen. It doesn’t matter who is in the dugout or who is playing on the pitch, nothing will change until there is change at the very top.

CLEM AND CROOKS OUT NOW.

Clem out

This weird ‘not celebrating a goal’ thing is something I’m experiencing too. I remember frantically refreshing the match day page on occasions when I couldn’t go to the game and getting all excited when I saw ‘GET INNNNNNN’.

Now it’s ‘Well I’ll be damned, we scored’ and then get back to whatever else I was doing.

Where dat?

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Price of a match day ticket,

What did you use Mr Muscle🤔

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was basically my reaction to the goal.

An equaliser was the absolute bare minimum, i can’t celebrate us reaching the bare minimum.

I know someone mentioned about the trust being aware of a couple of interested parties. Please be true and please be genuine and please get us out of this mess.

Not a criticism, but I think you are taking Gunning's first spell and applying it to his second spell, because my memory of his second spell was the opposite to that, if anything a lack of risk and a happy to take a draw when a win was available.  I would prefer Flynn or Kennedy over Gunnings spell but out of the last 3 managers Flynn was by far the better and we couldn't wait to get him out.

Let's face it, we should be expecting a better calibre of manager with the backing that Kennedy has recieved.  Clem is making a complete balls up of manager recruitment, we should expect better than knowing that Gunning will be brought back in.

Sounds reasonable. When you free?

Stop calling him Clem. we’re not friendly with that thief. Morfuni out the twat.

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NnG0xReAao
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etHCEhqQc

My summary:
1. Gave away a goal due to poor positioning by Bycroft
2. We now have a workmanlike midfield. There is little creativity there. There is little pace or even change of pace.
3. At 11 vs 10 we couldn’t get crosses to anyone. The players weren’t on the same wavelength again and we often struggled to keep possession.
4. Smith was naive in getting sent off. None of our strikers seem to be able to finish. Not sure that Tshimanga is above NL standard. But, difficult to tell as we aren’t creating much.
5. We kept doing the same thing after the sending off. We should have mixed it up. We kept trying to get it down the left and occasionally down the right.
6. The first shot on target after Feeley went in goal beat him. His push around the post looked as if it was going wide. But even if it wasn’t, 2 shots on target against 10 men and a non-specialist goalie is unbelievable. Surely if we’d had 5 or 6 shots on target, we might have scored a couple of times.
7. Bizarre substitutions. Don’t bring Sobowale on if you don’t think he is good enough going forward. As for taking your only goal threat off - He’d been patched up and should have been left out there. Drinan did nothing
8. Kennedy doesn’t seem very good. Although he talks a good game, but just doesn’t seem to see what the rest of us are seeing.
9. I was shocked that the commentators gave MotM to King. I thought he was lazy and wasteful.
10. In non-game stuff, I don’t like personal insults. I also ‘celebrated’ the goal by saying ‘Halle-bloody-lujah!’

We'll be fine, who says we're going down then?

I always judge after 10 games, I’ll let you know then.

Wouldn’t rule it out at this early stage…

Just turn off the fucking lights and be done with it.

Morfuni and his gang of criminals, undesirable and useless incompetent twats have taken the club to its lowest.
Fuck off the lot of you.

Not yet they havnt Duke. Reckon there's still a year at least of this 🙁

One simple question needs answering, why the hell did we not shoot on sight from everywhere. It's boggled my mind.

The goal any keeper would have saved.
This backing up your question. Apart from a free kick which a few Barra fans thought it was wide we created fuck all for 60 mins.
Any level of football when the keeper is replaced by an outfield player you shoot at every possible opportunity. Sure we never created many openings but ffs come on.
That was shite.

Can't disagree Duke

Problem us Kennedy thinks that was a good performance and we were unlucky!!

I never saw any of the game but kept tabs on the game with regular updates on here from respected posters who were all saying how shockingly poor we were. What’s worrying is listening to Kennedy’s post match interview where he is saying the complete opposite and praising the players and even himself for the substitutions.

We look at least as bad as late last season and without the good start......so doesn't look good.

I genuinely can't see any end. I'd take a year, even if we went down and got new decent owners. A year I would take. I think it could be much much worse than that.

I think it is going to take relegation until the rest of the fanbase wake up and realise how bad Morfuni and co are, unfortunately.

We look worse.
Think this squad is capable of more than its showing but really starting to think Kennedy is on a different planet.
I get what he *says* might not actually be what he *thinks* but we’ve been rotten this season, absolutely fucking rotten.

Whether we stay up might depend on how soon we pull the trigger & who we replace him with.

I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking this but when they went down to 10 with a non-keeper I still had very little belief that we would actually pull it off. Why did Glatzel go off? Was it injury? I thought Sobowale was doing okay and I think if Kennedy is in the habit of double subbing and dropping people like Oforborh then it won’t be long until the toxicity seeps into the dressing room.

Will they then? I genuinely don't think a portion of the fan base ever will. If not now, then I don't think they ever will.

If any of LSPOD are reading; please get Terry on for this analysis  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak :pint: :suicide:

Glatzel had a nasty bang on the head, requiring bandaging to deal with a cut.  He may have been concussed and was pulled after a few minutes after being patched up.  Sobowale has been criticized for not going outside and typically turning back and inside (a la Shade).  So, presumably, Sobowale wasn't crossing sufficiently.

Concussion protocol I believe and if deemed as accepted misses next game.

I thought that may be the case with Glatzel. Sobowale looks like one of our good acquisitions so I hope that Kennedy hasn’t sent him to the bomb squad already.

I didn't celebrate with much gusto, kind of knew what would happen once an outfield player went in goal.

Yeah, it was good when their sponsors motm let the goal in & for the town fans to give some back to their lot, but that's it.

Two points dropped for Barrow.
They win that without breaking sweat if they'd had a keeper on the bench.

Most of Kennedy's comments were technically correct, but come on, everyone involved from players to management will go to bed knowing that under the circumstances that should have been 3pts in the bag.

The performance of Cox was a positive, but the team looks like it hasn’t played together very much.

Might not be a bad thing if Clarke is also missing along with Smith for the next game.

Nice to read a balanced opinion from someone who went to the match. Kennedy would be stupid to do a Sheridan and start throwing players under the bus publicly

Because that is the most critical thing to worry about..  ::)  calling him Morfuni will show him and convince him to sell..

I prefer Clam

That's not what I'd call it. He's 29 years old. He's tetchy and a total twat for rising to it.

We are now without Smith, Hall, Glatzel and probably Clarke for Newport. Delaney shouldn't be starting games yet either.

So am I.  There's just a complete lack of pragmatism.  Kennedys primary focus should be on winning games, not on a fixation on formations, ball playing number 6s etc.  It's concerning that he says we are 3 weeks behind as though it's not as if any other team will improve over the 3 next weeks, and that he "didn't build a team for September" when August has already fucked off so 20% of the season has been written off.

Take off the blinkers and make the best out of the shite you are dealt.  This feels like a better squad than last year, the bench has first team players on it and experience, but collectively they are shite as, fundamentally, they don't seem to know what they are suppose to do.

For me, I enjoyed it but then was very quickly followed by an exclamation of "That's what happens when you fucking shoot".  To then hear the manager say that he was pleased we didn't shoot on sight, when the one time we did, we scored, drove me to spoons.

Sobowale is a right back, and has looked pretty decent when played there and is one of the few to run past people, and looks far better than King in that position.  As a left back he can do a decent defensive job, as hid did admirably against Jones last week but he's not going to provide width and put left footed crosses in.  He will play like any other right footed player as an inverted left back.

Kennedy is just making excuses for his own decisions.  Cain is not a LWB, OB4 is not a box to box midfielder, Glatzel is not a sub in Div 4.  Stop playing people out of position and find a way of making the team better than the sum of its parts.  If you can't do that as a manager then you are a waste of a wage.

Fucking woeful.

Pissed away an opportunity to get a win....wtf was Smith thinking?

Lad in the sticks just did the basics, they could of got a bloke from the stands to go in goal. We caused zero pressure on them.

Halftime talk? Any of us could of given that.

Pepper the goal with crosses, through balls and shots..but instead....

Just fucking woeful and Kennedy bigging it up just rubbed salt into the festering wounds! Hes now officially getting on my tits!

I leapt up when we scored but i did feel sorry for the keeper and their defenders.

Oh...and Smith getting suspended means we will see more of Dreadful Drinan! it gets worse....

Sadly I'm not sure it matters who we have up top, even Kane or Haarland would probably struggle in this team.
No-one looks like scoring, 3 goals in 5 league games. all from outside the box including Wrights wonder goal and Butterworths 35 yard punt today.  We've created very little for the strikers and our set pieces are still woeful.

All I want to see is a plan and, at the moment, there just doesn't appear to be one.

This was bizarre. It makes no sense at all. I’m really starting to wonder about Kennedy.

Any idea the extent of the Clarke and Hall injuries?

We all expected they’d break down at some point

The only brightness that may develop from this will be smith suspended for likely 5 games (similar to khan last year I expect they’ll upgrade it to 5).  Glatzel I guess will be out for at least two due to concussion protocols.  Surely Ameen now has to start.  This will be the true test of Kennedy.  If he picks Drinnan (who offers nothing) then all hope is lost for Kennedy if he is brave and goes Ameen then he will take a step up in my estimation.

Only bright spark from yesterday was Cox but they don’t look like they have a plan or strategy at all.  So much for his coaching CV.

I have a suspicion that Glatzel's substitution was at least in part tactically motivated ie get Drinan on & while the guidelines may well be followed in the week, wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the squad for Saturday assuming that the cut isn't too serious.

Why are we wasting our time with the goalkeeper situation?

It's painfully obvious Barden has been bought in to be #1. So just bloody start him already.

I don't buy into this whole competition thing. You got a new keeper because you don't think our current one is good enough.

Own it.

Barden’s probably been bought in as a target man.

I expect to see him up top in Smiths absence…

Kennedy said Clarke’s calf ‘didn’t feel right’ so he came off as a precaution.

Hall, he wasn’t so sure. Quad injury.

Kennedy said it was at the insistence of the physio. Said it was part of concussion protocol and that player safety paramount.

Had you read back?

I agree totally.

Ah, that's fair enough.
Kennedy strikes me as a decent human being who will look out for his players in terms of avoiding public criticism.
That quality does not in itself guarantee the winning of football matches.

I would like him to succeed & the ongoing manager churn  will serve no useful purpose.

I suspect that we all want him to do well but unless he wins a football match or 2 soon then a change will have to happen.  His job is to get the best of out of his squad and he isn't doing that at the mo.

The manager churn has been ridiculous and every one seems worse than the previous one.  I thought sacking Flynn without bringing in a permanent replacement served no purpose and is an illustration of how poor and scattergun the decision making at the club is.

Flynn was a good manager. I stand by that.

He was incredibly let down by only having 13-14 passable league 2 players in his squad.

I reckon he'd get a tune out of this current squad.

We can't keep churning managers, doing the same thing time and time again.

We can't keep managers that look like taking us down either.

As someone just pointed out to me on Twitter, the problem is it seems nobody else wants the job..

The very best outcome is Kennedy turns this around, obviously.

I'm not suggesting the time is now, way too early, but how long does Kennedy get to do it? It's probably until some time in November for me.

Sacking Flynn and then spending the next 6 months doing nothing forward planning was the worst bit. Okay if you’re writing the season off in January then you’ve got it pretty badly wrong somewhere but if you’re going to do that, then at least utilise the rest of the season to forward plan into the next with a head coach in place that you want as soon as possible and start working a system you want to take forward.

Giving it to Gunning for some CV padding and then still taking a decent chunk of time post season to find a head coach was baffling.

The players will all be feeling the pressure to get the win - Kennedy is just trying to take the pressure off them. The best thing we can do is support them onto a win this Saturday 🤞

 Not that much to go on but what we have seen doesn't promote confidence in the manager's abilities .   but the squad looks like a sow's ear and I always understood you can't make much with one of those .

 

Nobody wants to work under the unorganised crime mob, especially ex players who are well aware of the current situation at the club.

Genuinely might be Luc Nijholts time, he's wanted it forever.

I think decent managers would struggle under this regime the problem is at board level they don’t know what they’re doing

Simply put we have to get them to sell somehow. Where are the trust in all this they do seem very quiet

I'd imagine the idea was to give it to gunning full stop. But it went to shit and a fan backlash put paid to it.

Not sure why they didn't do that from day 1 though.  Maybe qualifications related or simply wanted to see how it went.

Not that this prevented a plan b being formed

Because when it went to shit they'd have to sack him, then Gav could publish the incriminating photos/evidence.

Probably the same reason our non Vice Chairman is still around, he knows where the (metaphorical) bodies are buried

How much say did the manager have in what players were brought in🤔

Jamie Russell will be under massive pressure if this fails as well

Exactly that, if the budget was competitive then someone has to be accountable if performances on the pitch don’t improve.

Pork scratchings?

I don't think this is a poor squad, there's plenty of experience and players that have played at a higher level and for once the bench isnt full of kids. It lacks a bit of pace and guile but looks like a solid div 4 squad.  

What we have seen is a complete lack of identity, players playing out of position, the ball repeatedly hoofed to the corner flag and almost zero service to the forwards.  That is down to the management and coaching.  

It's Sheridanesque tbh

Completely agree. Wright is an excellent footballer, Clark looked  a great signing, Glatzel we know from last season is decent. There’s enough in there to be doing much better than what we’re doing. I’ve always hated 5 at the back in league 1/2. Never seems to work

Definately this.

Are we sure its metaphorical with this lot?

Probably inside a Mercedes at the bottom of the English Channel ;)

TBF most clubs now practice a model similar to us, with a DoF and scouting team/analysts in charge of signings based on spreadsheets/scouting network which all clubs have access to if they pay the fee.

In the Premier League and Championship I doubt any manager has full control over signings and probably havent in the last 10 years or so.

If you watch "Mission to Burnley" with Vincent Kompany you will see that Kompany asks for certain players as he knows them and thinks they would compliment his team/style but rarely got what he wanted and most signings were down to the scouting network used and seeing if they were good value for money.

We have to accept this is how its done nowadays, but, I am not sure that out DoF/Scouting/analyst team are analysing the data correctly and seeing how these players may integreate into the system we are currently using. A system that I feel personally is at the full control of the DoF who is signing players to play that system.

Lets face it that since Russell has been with us he has got every manager to try and play with 3/5 at the back and not once has this worked and I fear it won't work either, possibly ever.

We don't seem to have any player capable of playing the wingback role adequately, or midfielders who can play the roles required and that has been the same under Garner/Lindsey/Gunning/Flynn and now Kennedy who all started by playing that formation until it became obvious it wasn't working.

I fear Kennedy's hand are tied by a formation more suited to top divison teams with more skilled players than you are ever likely to get at this level. As such players are not familiar with playing these roles as they havent played them before in their careers as much as they have done a 442 or 433 formation.

Get back to basics, you only need to be slightly better than average to get out of this league.

I think there are a number of decent signings, especially for League 2.
Kilkenny, Butterworth & Cox look pretty good, and fitness aside you would say Delaney & Hall fit into that category.

As for 5 at the back, the problem we have is we don't now have full backs

Supported this club since the 60's through thick and thin ( a lot of thin) never felt so much apathy for the club, yes I have a season ticket and watched them, going with my dear old dad and then my son and hoping to take my grandchildren. This is the first time I have really believed we are going down. The situation is dire and you can feel the outcome at each match something needs sorting soon before it is too late!

Pork scratchings?

No. Not enough fat on them. They also take a hit of cleaning (pigs don’t use cotton buds) so they end up being cooked, dried and sold into the pet food chain.

I’m not a big fan of the DOF model preferred the old way when a manager worked within a budget and told the chairman what players he wanted then picked the team accordingly, nowadays managers are too scared to go against the grain and pursue their own beliefs.

Plus is means you end up sacking managers when really the buck stops somewhere else either as well or in some cases even more so.

i don't think the entirety of the squad is as bad as our current league position, but I also don't think it has much by way of talent in it, based on viewing so far.  I honestly don't see much coherence in what we have put together either.  If you go with a three man central defence you need attacking wing backs to give you the width, but we seem to have some plodders who make Rob Hunt look like prime Giggs.

We have brought a big man up top, but seem unable to get any sort of decent crosses in and have a muddled plan to play through the midfield or hit it long and hope.  Nothing seems joined up.  The midfield looks meh to me - I think we've seen such drivel in recent times that people think a player who can pass five yards is now some sort of creative star.  It seems no better than last seasons grouping to me, and they were also easily run through.

The central defenders is probably the improvement from prior year, but overall it's a mid table group.  A good manager can maybe make them outperform that a little, but nothing about Kennedy suggests he is that type of Manager.  I think we'll end the season with a record not that far last seasons in terms of points (maybe 10 more), with less goals scored and eventually less goals conceded.  It sort of reminds me of the Phil Brown era.

Spot on :clap:

The women's side are 9-0 up, so that's something.

Playing players in a position that suits them is key, Cotterill is a prime example.
Playing as the playmaker just in front of the back 3 he looked like someone who had never played before, but his (albeit limited sample) performance farther forward he looked reasonable.
It should be the manager’s job to put players in their right positions & play to their strengths, if that doesn’t improve then it has to be down to Kennedy.

We can argue whether he’s got the raw materials to get in the top 7 (personally I’m not sure he does) but what he does have is better than bottom 4

Give them a go in the men’s first team :D

One thing that annoys me listening to Morfuni’s interviews

He calls Gunning and Russell, Jamie and Gev

But always mentions the manager and calls him Kennedy

On this subject, I picked up on something quite alarming in a interview but how many of these players have our coaching staff actually physically gone to watch and scouted, Kennedy mentioned he had only seen clips of Cox and liked them and I can't remember who but he said the same about another one.

The biggest problem for me though is I'm not sure we can put fitness aside. Bringing in players with such a bad record to a club with a reputation for not having great medical care is a recipe for disaster

For someone who's accused of having rose tinted spectacles, I maintain Flynn was an awful one dimensional manager who should've been sacked after the Aldershot debacle. But it's the same old Swindon fans retrospective re-assessment of people who have left the club in my opinion

Flynn was one dimensional.
His inability to see a game out or change to more robust tactics cost us points.

We can point out our great start but it probably should have even better really…
Like if you’re 2 goals up in the 92nd minute you shouldn’t be drawing.

Bloody hell that MDT was a right rollercoaster of emotion wasn't it!

I saw our next opponents Newport had 2 red cards and I think have some injury issues so it could be 2 scratch teams on Saturday!

All the managers we've had over the last 2 years or so have been shit and Flynn was no exception but I don't see how getting rid of him at that time and replacing with an inexperienced caretaker and then not back filling the coaching team was ever going to work.
It's just shambolic  short term chaos, throwing shit at a wall until it sticks, decision making.

Flynn had one dimension, Kennedy so far has shown no dimensions.

I am willing to go out on a limb and say Mike Flynn with 9 wins will have more wins for us this than Mark Kennedy will have by the end of the season

I don’t think there’s any point in comparing Flynn, Gunning, Kennedy, Morris and Lindsey. All found ways to be terrible for us. Kennedy is 5 games in, and has to be given time, no matter how atrocious we have been. If the next 5 games are as bad, then that’s the time you start to see the sackings begin. It’s not useful, and would be rinse and repeat…. so I hope he’s got the sense to see that the way we set up is awful and change before it’s too late.

He's not been to his house yet maybe.

And now some people would rather have Gunning. Anyway, I was just replying to someone who raised the "Flynn" would be better argument

No i hadnt.

To be fair though he probably would be. Even during shit times his managerial record shows he is a better manager... So far

He did actually win games  :)

It was probably me that kicked this debate off so I will just say based on my original point, if I had to pick Flynn, Gunning or Kennedy based on what we have seen of Kennedy so far, i would pick Flynn if he was to be backed in the same way that Kennedy has been - Flynn did not get the same kind of budget that Kennedy has received.  

There is no reassessment of Flynn from me, with the squad that he managed to pull together with the budget he was allowed, he was one dimensional and was pig headed and unwilling to change based on the circumstances before him, something that Kennedy is seemingly guilty of also.

My point was, in our current situation with our current squad/budget, if i had to pick Flynn, Gunning or Kennedy, I would have Flynn first, Kennedy second and Gunning 3rd.  Having said that, Flynn was rightly sacked when he was, the failure was not replacing him with something better than Gunning.  Ironically my original post was in reply to what I feel was a reassessment of Gunning's stint by DV.

I agree totally on that, after Aldershot he should have been sacked straight away, that was our worst and most embarrassing result in the clubs existance. Flynn was a very very limited manager.

It does seem to be that way.

That would be like choosing between syphilis, gonorrhoea and chlamydia, in that list there appears to be no better option for me.

No it doesn’t. It’s not revisionist.

Gunning was batshit crazy & wasn’t frightened of making formation & tactical changes and use all his subs - usually in quite bizarre fashion.

Half the time we couldn’t even tell what formation we were playing. He’s the complete opposite end of the scales to Flynn & Kennedy in that sense.

That's all true of his first two spell. Was it true of his longer third spell? I wouldn't have said so.

And that was my point, I think the first spells are getting mixed up with the longer spell which was much more risk adverse and anything but exciting batshit crazy football.

If Hall had defended properly he might not have got injured.

Was I happy that we scored a last minute goal to get a point away at Barrow, yes.

Am I annoyed and pissed off that I also felt an emotion of anger when that goal went in, yes.  I felt that same emotion listening to Kennedy's post-match comments.  I have never felt as disconnected and apathetic as I have done about Swindon Town Football Club as I do now.

100% with you on that

I doubt it’s an exclusive club TBF. I feel like that and have stopped going. Couldn’t even be bothered to watch on TV. I doubt I will on Saturday either if the weather is half decent.

We were only a 30 yarder and a keeper(defender) mistake away from eclipsing it on Saturday

:D

Smith wasn't the stupidest red card this weekend...

https://x.com/SkyFootball/status/1833097055226503664

Wow what a bell end.

Surely, as it's piggy in the middle, he's more of a silly sausage?

Just got a £4 refund from iFollow for missing the start of the match :D

I watched the whole game on Octo as my iFollow did not want to play at all VPN or not even though I have a season pass.

I'll be happy to be paid to not watch the rest of the season tbh

Fair.

This. I'll probably watch Southampton vs Man United Saturday. I'm home alone and get it for free on the stick but nah.