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I know the CG has hardly had a rocking stadium atmosphere lately, but do you reckon our new style of play is a contributing factor?

The patient, sometimes painfully slow, build-up is hardly conducive to getting fans off their seats.

The same has been said for the Emirates and yesterday Spurs were intimating a similar thing.

In fairness, bar a few games in the last couple of years (Namely Villa, City, Chelsea (first half) etc)...the atmosphere has been lacking for quite some time....I don't think it's exclusive to the new/current style of football..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lTosXaQWw

As I'm sure Shaw will tell us, Ian Curtis came from Macclesfield.

End to end fast paced football = more noise
An away team that are a bit dirty or have a few characters help to create a better atmosphere.
Away fans that can be actually heard, also helps

It was either going to be Joy Division or Russ Abbott  :)

Agree

Atmosphere before games should be built up in the last ten minutes or so before kick-off, what do we get - every game - fucking Rocking Robin and Madness!!  Everybody has been sent to sleep before kick-off!!

I reckon we should whack some Slipknot on as the players come out. That should wake people up.

People = Shit?

They need to have something at the start of each game that involves the fans (better than the "let's hear the arkells" etc from a few years back. Chelsea do that tune (might be double barrel by Dave and Ansell Collins  ???)

Edit. Not double barrel  :sherlock: it's gonna bug me now  :crash:

Can't remember the last time I was in the middle of a crowd so loud that your ear drums vibrate and sound distorts.

Since moving from the TE to the DRS the best got was the "we are .... red and white army", and the worst is the moronic clapping along to TE's "red army" as if the whole stand has turned into a group of lobotomised seals. Even my previously rambunctious mates do it.

But I think the problem has crept up on us over the last decade.

Don't they play 'Wise Man Say' before we come out? Almost certainly nobody joins in, but if we were to get a rousing rendition of this it would surely get the crowd going a bit more than Rockin Robin doing a stupid dance in the centre circle?

But this involves clapping and only one word vocals  :)

We should book some 'thing' from Oxford to parade around the ground before the start and issue everyone with tomatoes (and the odd concrete block) to chuck at them

In case you haven't remembered it yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqog6PMNxDs

 :nod:

Thank you

This would be my choice of 'walk on' music - with the volume turned up to "eleven"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4fjqKnB4AE

How about atmosphere police? If you're not joining in with songs you get ejected from the ground.

Clapping along without singing is a warning.

How about a drummer :idea:

i do enjoy, up at rotherham being an example, how we all hate drums but that as soon as we're at a ground that offers up some sort of material such as corrugated iron or plastic as part of the stand our fans then think it's fine to thump said material mimicking the sound of, yes, a drum.

The County Ground is simply a poor stadium for atmosphere. Two large all seater stands opposite each other with a small covered stand one end and an empty Stratton Bank the other. The lack of roof plus all the spaces between the stands really don't help. I stand in The Town End and sometimes think that sounded loud etc but friends sat elsewhere in the ground say it was fairly quiet. Fact is until we get 4 similar size stands all with roofs the accoustics will remain shit.

Seemed to work OK acoustically in the 80's and even the early 90's Mr Reaper

All those sat comfy in the DRS were either IN the TE or shrivvy road ( and singing )

Still reckon its fans that have changed more than the stadium leaking sound.

You have a point there too
For me its all seater stadiums changed that but others have other ideas
Whatever the reasons it HAS changed

When I went in the 80's in was mostly men. Now times have changed and football is more family friendly and I guess that plays a part too.

It's not like there are loads of other teams with cracking home atmosphere at this level though.

All seater stadiums is without doubt a factor, there definately something about sitting down which can dampen the desire to to constantly sing.  I cherise the rarer and rarer opportunity to stand on a terrace these days.

Don't think you can argue with that really.

Isn't Wolves all seater? Thought the atmosphere there was fantastic.

Yea that wasnt bad, City will be decent because the stand will be packed, it has superb accoustics and most people stand up.

They are the exception though compared to 10-15 years ago.

Clapping in general, pisses me off, it kills chants off as well. reds go steaming in is a great example of this. Whoever starts the clapping needs their hands cutting off.

Yep is but having 19000 there helps and they stood on their home kop

More vocal in the terrace days, or when the Drs was built having the away fans on the bank. Banter between the fans raised the volume. Now, the away fans, who usually number about 300 are on the opposite corner to where any home noise is. I uses to stand in the shrivvy, about 50ft from the away corner, good atmosphere then  ;)

Being extremely shit/threat of going bust also has an effect on fans and makes them put more effort in. Plymouth and Portsmouth have arguably the best support in the lower leagues.

Fuck me, like we've not tried that tactic a million times already  ;)

If our singing lot would go to the Arkells near the away fans they would get a great view of the game (ignore the posts) get some great (dare I say it) banter going between fans, generating more noise. There is beer in the Arkells and if you can be arsed it's possible to get a pint in from the Legends. It's warmer as the Arkells has better shelter from the wind than the DRS. You can exit the ground in seconds as there is so much more room compared to DRS.

Win/win in my opinion

Atmosphere could be greatly improved at most clubs, if you look at what crystal palace have done they have a hard core selection of fans that sit all togther and have a relationship with the club maybe it something Jed could look at doing.

Football will never have the atmosphere's it used to. Just accept it and enjoy it for what it is now

 :nod:

Too many women and children, right?

When people talk about how the atmosphere at football has changed for the worse, I can see that there is probably an element of truth to it.  (When 95% of the crowd are adult males, as probably used to be the case, the atmosphere is bound to be more edgy.)  But I also wonder whether part of the issue is that the people making the comparison have just got older themselves.

There's definitely an element of this. Same reason as why Music is always derided these days, and why old bastards whinge about pretty much everything.

Who are you calling an old bastard, you whippersnapper!

He does have a point, I think back to seasons like 79/80, prob the last time we could get a 20,000+ crowd at the CG...but that wasn't normal for the time...and the atmosphere for a lot of bread and butter fixtures would have been as tepid as now.

As for music...there's still good stuff being created, a lot of people though just get stuck in a bubble of only liking waht they grew up with...

Just got back from Sunderland, having stayed up their for a few days, and went to the derby on Sunday...what a brilliant atmosphere. I've been to the Sunderland v Newcastle derby last season, but it was so much better this season...managed to take some vids on my phone before kick off and at the end; shear brilliance along with the result!

As a side note; a lot of them LIKED Di Canio and the way he was running things, but as it's come out the players took exception (Cattermole & Bardsley as the main mouth pieces who went to the chairman which led to him getting the sack). They all felt he was a short term appointment and the 'loada rubbish' that was brought in during the Summer was done by their director of football (di fanti?). The only player he wanted was Tom Huddlestone, who ended up going to Hull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RFPLk5mJ1D4

NO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zA9ROc_m8qc

Still fresh Reg?  :)







Sorry  :-[

The two games that spring to mind for great noise levels over the last few years at home, were Leeds (during the 3-0 home and away season) and Charlton in the play off semi. "You're only here to see the town" was sung from all three stands and the Leeds fans just stood in silence, amazed at being outsung  :). The roar of the crowd when Danny Ward scored in the home leg against Charlton was great, caught from a youtube clip taken by a Charlton fan on the bank, unfortunately it seems to no longer be on the web  :(. So, it can happen, but it's whether people can be bothered.

The issue is simple, the fans that sing are too far away from the away fans. In all the years gone by there was always banter with away fans as you could see and hear them. When the the town end reopened and the top corner if the south stand stop being where the singing fans were it was fine at first as the town end was rammed. It was like terracing at times, especially Sheff wed at home on a hot summers day. As numbers in the town end have reduced so has the atmosphere.

If all the noisy fans were to sit in the arkells by the away fans you would get the banter back and even 200 away fans and 200 home fans singing could generate a far better atmosphere. A few games this did happen until the Bristol Rovers seat throwing game and then it all stopped. But that day the atmosphere was electric and the banter was and far better than had everyone been in the town end.

Other than the massive games the atmosphere will continue to be rubbish if the away fans sit so far away you can't hear each other. That's a fact. It will never happen and some fans won't want to hear it, but if you want a good atmosphere shutting the town end and the singers sitting by the away fans would make things 100 times better. Just think of some of the small away grounds you have been too where you sit near the noisy section of the home fans and how much better the banter makes the overall atmosphere.

And the Crawley evening game where Fatty lost it!!

Quality....they don't make them like that any more.

Walk in silence

Or we could... Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance to the radio.

We could, but the thread isn't called Transmission is it. The whole atmosphere link was.. abandoned too soon

It should be looked at in isolation.

I agree, Reg!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdNRGuX9g8

Too true. We seem to be hearing alot of excuses here

The TE was great for atmosphere in the late 70s. Arsenal at home in 79 was brilliant, even when Arsenal steamed into the TE at the end of yhe match