Title: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, September 27, 2013, 23:05:46 The Opponent: Preston North End
So the Chelsea Power Show (you see what I did there) has rolled on to pastures new, and for me its not a bad thing as we need to start gaining some momentum and push up through the league. Tuesday was a fantastic night for all concerned with STFC, a full house, great atmosphere, even the Bovril tasted more bone-like than ever before, but now is the time to show what we are made of. We may have an average team age of 22.5 (thanks to Adver Sam for that one), but we have the ability and firepower to ruin most of the teams in this league, and today is a day we need to show it. Preston may well have a big stadium, but let’s face it, they were punching well above their weight for years in The Championship, and now they are really not much better than an average League 1 team. PNE fans are quick to point out that they have a glorious history, the history that dates back to before the shooting of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand. To be fair they did win the FA Cup in 1938 followed by the Football War Cup 3 years later, but where they find themselves in the league tables nowadays is indicative of where they deserve to be. With Simon Grayson as manager and Peter Risdale as Chairman they do have a bit of a Leeds feel to them too, and their longest serving manager over the last 25 years is none other than the fella who replaced Ferguson at United (even if the fans did want Jose), David Moyes, who points-wise, is still the most successful manager they have had for many a year. So it seems they are consistently inconsistent, if nothing else. I heard through footballing circles that PNE Thor is now the Governments new face of British Dentistry, and his appearance just confirmed that the village of Preston is still missing one of its many Northern whippet breeding wife beating benefit cheating idiots. It is a bit of a journey, I did it last year and I have to say the surrounding area rates closely up there with Port Vale for one of the grottiest parts of the country I have been too. Not necessarily rough, just quite simply a northern shithole. Even the local newspaper confirms what I think of the place. One story was a father who went to the Lancashire Evening Post to show off his 12 year old daughters infected pierced ear, I look at him and just see everything that is wrong with the selfish compensation culture that seems all too common in this country. As mentioned elsewhere, giving Grade II listed status to a bus station is somewhat puzzling, especially when it looks just as bad as the piss stinking effort we have. I’m sure Preston has its nice points, its probably full of Ordinary Boys (sorry), and when leaving Preston last season I spotted a lovely place on the journey home, The A6, which helps you get away from the ghastly place. The Last Time We Met At – Deepdale – The less said the better really. The first signs that the Di Canio rollercoaster was starting to derail a little? Possibly. All I remember on the way home was looking at Twitter wanting to know if Foderingham would ever play for us again and wondering which family member he would dedicate a 4-1 drubbing too. They have served us both – Andy Lonergan, Jay McEvely, David Lucas, Simon Gibson, Jake Jervis, Fola Onibuje and Lee Holmes Where the opposition gather – http://www.pne-online.net/forum/showthread.php?82932-Swindon They are a well informed bunch - “Mason and Harley are both out injured too and they are both quality players at this level. I think Mason has scored a few for them this season too. I don't understand how they can get away with loaning six players from Spurs? i mean Watford are the worse culprits but surely the system needs addressing”. PNE Last 6 – DDWWWW The Odds - PNE 6/5 Draw 12/5 Swindon 11/5 The Son Says – His disappointment at losing to the former Champions of Europe was rather short lived. 3-0 Town. The Prediction – We have some demons to exorcise at Deepdale starting today. We only have 2 players left from the starting team that lined up against them 11 months ago plus Darren Ward on the bench. We are literally a different team, with a different style of play and we will pass our way around them for 90 minutes. 2-1 Town with goals from a returning to form Luongo and Ajose. 10’998 with 510 from Swindon. And Finally - The Preston by-pass, opened 5 December 1958, became the first stretch of motorway in the UK and is now part of the M6 with a short section now forming part of the M55. It was built to ease traffic congestion in Preston caused bTy tourists travelling to the popular destinations of Blackpool and The Lake District. The first traffic cones were used during its construction, replacing red lantern paraffin burners. COYR COYR COYR Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, September 27, 2013, 23:15:15 This one has draw written all over it
They have been miserly at the back which is unusual for a grayson team - for a former defender his defence at Leeds was woeful The club deffo ruled out Harley but I have seen nothing concrete re Mason and the Power Ranger If both of those play may give us the edge esp in attack I take it Bryne will be back in contention, he has been missed going forward last 3 games IMHO Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Friday, September 27, 2013, 23:18:22 Wait, we've registered our DoF as a player now?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, September 27, 2013, 23:20:46 Wait, we've registered our DoF as a player now? Fuckin laptop keyboard :cry: Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Friday, September 27, 2013, 23:24:06 Fuckin laptop keyboard :cry: To be fair I should have made the leap. Definitely time for bed. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dozno9 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 07:28:43 Come down for us following the last 2 games, I'd take a draw now but going for a 2-0 loss.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 08:06:52 I have absolutely no idea about this one. Let's say 3-0 win, I have no idea which way though. We're either going to outpass and outclass them or they're going to smash us to bits.
I'd say 350 town fans? It's far and a bloody awful trip. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 08:30:41 Seems like Grayson's done his homework.
http://www.pnefc.net/news/article/grayson-respectful-of-robins260913-1077994.aspx Expect them to sit back and look to hit us on the counter. Probably exactly the sort of team we'll struggle against, miserly at the back and direct in attack, but you never know in football. First goal will be important. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: brocklesby red on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:06:14 Hard to call until we see what team we put out but a draw would be a decent result against an inform PNE so 2-2 Nguessan and El Gabbas
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Langers on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:26:17 No idea how this will go today. Would be happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bewster on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:27:30 Hard to call until we see what team we put out but a draw would be a decent result against an inform PNE so 2-2 Nguessan and El Gabbas They are going well so a draw would be a good result, however I'd like a win just to shut that fat hairy troll up. A lot depends on Ranger though. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Benzel on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:38:04 Away from home against a side with an excellent home record, would be chuffed with a point.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bathtime on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:38:27 Could have done with an easier game this particular week. Best expectations is a draw and after Preston`s recent good run - which needs to end sometime - and why not today....? 1-1
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: corner on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 09:49:47 0-2 coyr
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: fatbasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:02:28 Good feeling about this actually. If they have as positive a mindset as I have after the Chelsea game where I considered 0-3 or less a moral victory then they should get something from this one. I predict 1-2 victory for the Robins.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: kerry red on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:42:41 Got a feeling that this season we are going to be a brilliant home team and mediocre away (results wise).
We can't keep on just being 'unlucky' away from home. Need to put some meat on the bones. As I've got us in an accumulator got to go for a win today 1-2 Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Spud on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:52:00 2-0 defeat.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:54:52 Going for an opposite Wolves. We play worse than at any point this season but walk away with a 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 11:12:25 Just arriving at Crewe on my train to Preston. 'Shit Northern Swindon, you're just a shit Northern Swindon.'
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 11:14:50 I would take a draw now....
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 11:19:35 I would take a draw now.... We are drawing now. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 11:59:19 They're a decent team - no real flair or creativity about their game but they're a solid defensive unit and they pass it around neatly enough. If we play well we're good enough to break them down.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: slinky on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 12:19:14 I've got a good feeling about this. 2-1 Swindon COYR
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 12:49:31 We are drawing now. Take it into the corners... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:01:53 Swindon Town FC @Official_STFC 1m
Town side to face Preston: Foderingham, Thompson N, Hall, Ward (c), McEveley, Kasim, Luongo, Thompson L, Byrne, N'Guessan, Pritchard #STFC Swindon Town FC @Official_STFC 1m Subs: Belford, Ajose, Branco, Barthram, Elgabas, Cox, Storey So Cox features on the bench and L Thompson/Byrne start instead of Ranger/Ajose Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:06:10 This feels like pre-Stevenage last season. I hope it's the same score!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: fatbasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:09:26 Good feeling about this actually. If they have as positive a mindset as I have after the Chelsea game where I considered 0-3 or less a moral victory then they should get something from this one. I predict 1-2 victory for the Robins. Got £5 @ 10/1 in the local bookiesTitle: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Benzel on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:11:17 Cox on the bench? Not Lee Cox??
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:12:36 Cox on the bench? Not Lee Cox?? The very same Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Benzel on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:13:54 Fair play, looked decent when we caught a brief glimpse of him. Another tenacious midfielder.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:21:29 vic morgan @swindonred 2m
Really nice touch in the away end pic.twitter.com/LFNCjYJPwG (http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/travelling_zps74e7191b.jpg) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 13:55:53 A draw would be good.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:01:09 Gary Roberts got sent off for Chesterfield.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:02:59 A draw would be good. Against a team already averaging 2 points/game...I agree. That will be 1/5 of the season gone after today's game. Table will start to mean something before long. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:08:07 Gary Roberts got sent off for Chesterfield. Someone tweet Sausages to him ;)Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:12:59 Bollocks..........
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:13:17 General question, has Player been improved at all? Live outside of Swindon now so may subscribe but not if it's as bad as it used to be.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Langers on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:13:34 Fuck.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:13:43 This could be a heavy defeat. Hopefully we'll finish with 11 men.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:13:49 This is gonna be a long afternoon.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:17:14 The Bristol/Chelsea hangover. This was always on the cards, wasn't it.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:17:23 Oh dear. Glad I didnt make the trip up, think this could go like that year!
Why has our away form gone tits up? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:18:28 Uphill struggle from now on
We seem to be having a rough time in defence and not gonna make matters with JMc already booked Now N Thompson down in the box in agony :suicide: Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:18:37 Why has our away form gone tits up? In large part, a reflection of the teams we have travelled to. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dostoyevsky on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:18:52 Oh fuck sticks and man flaps
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:20:17 It doesn't help that we've conceded early in 4 out of 5 away games.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:22:11 It doesn't help that we've conceded early in 4 out of 5 away games. Aside from Shrews all the teams away have been in the top 5 when played Walsall down to 10 against Orient so not much danger of their run ending Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:23:50 Fixtures ain't been kind have they, and Orient just get luckier and luckier . . . .
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:24:20 In large part, a reflection of the teams we have travelled to. True, apart from Shrewsbury the other four games have been against top teamsTitle: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:26:30 It doesn't help that we've conceded early in 4 out of 5 away games. Was just going to say the same. We make it hard for ourselves. Wasn't really expecting anything today to be honest. However, we do need to start picking up points away from home. Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:30:14 We're only 1-0 down
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:31:00 We've gone into their half. Things are looking up!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: adje on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:32:31 Have our expectations risen?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:32:56 Need to man up and get something, plus Shitty one down so not all bad!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:33:11 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:shitty one down
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:33:28 This sounds like the worst start we have made in quite a while.
Cant decide whether this means we will get dicked or if we are gunna snatch a win somehow :hmmm: Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:33:52 Have our expectations risen? I'm happy with mid table this season.Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:33:54 I'd forgotten all about Liam Ridehalgh. Sent off for Tranmere.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:34:36 I'd forgotten all about Liam Ridehalgh. Sent off for Tranmere. Only just signed for them this week iirc Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:37:27 Have our expectations risen? Mine have. I was honestly expecting us to be fighting a relegation battle. Based on what I've seen so far, I'd like to think that won't be a possibility. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:39:08 They sound vicious.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:40:33 Austin scores for QPR.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:42:01 Byrne for Ajose, which might work out for us. Thompson in trouble though - at this rate we'll struggle to put a side out against Tranmere.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:43:06 They sound vicious. We have already lost Byrne and seems Thompson not 100% after a couple hefty challenges Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:44:34 Two injuries, no yellow cards. Interrrresting.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:45:08 Barthram on for Thompson.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:45:27 What's happened to Byrne? I'm not listening to the radio, as I'm convinced we do better when I don't listen...
Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:46:13 Fucking Preston.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:47:49 What's happened to Byrne? I'm not listening to the radio, as I'm convinced we do better when I don't listen... Both Byrne and Thompson on the end of a tasty challenge so both crocked Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:50:57 Both Byrne and Thompson on the end of a tasty challenge so both crocked :( Oh dear. Our injury list seems to be growing by the game. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:51:46 The best part of the first half is it's only 1-0!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 14:56:04 Going for an opposite Wolves. We play worse than at any point this season but walk away with a 2-1 win. Well, we're half way there! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:09:26 Bollocks again - own goal 2-0
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:09:44 Game over - own goal JMc ffs
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:09:58 Starring role on Soccer AM next week then...
Taxi for Jmac Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:10:13 McEveley's turning into a liability.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: nochee on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:10:26 :doh:
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:10:52 Another early goal from the start of the half.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:11:20 That's that then.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:11:29 Ward needs to knock Kevin Davies out... somebody needs to, he's been getting away with it for far too long.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: RedLadyBucks on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:11:56 McEveley's turning into a liability. Agreed - the weakest link in our team at the moTitle: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:12:09 9296 (386)
Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:16:00 McEveley doing his best to prove my point. Cheers Jay.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:16:36 Sounds as bad as Shrewsbury was. I feel for those who have made the trip.
Our away form will cost us, probably have to settle for the play offs rather than automatic. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:19:20 "defending is over-the-eyes stuff". Oh dear
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:20:24 9296 (386) Was very nearly (387) Thank fuck I didnt Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:24:47 It's a small squad. Without Ranger and Mason we're a bit shit because our shape goes pear like.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:27:13 May as well bring off N'Guessan and give El Gabbas a try.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:28:00 Was very nearly (387) Thank fuck I didnt That's well down on what Preston were getting a few seasons ago - and, not surprisingly, a fairly sparse following from our lot given the week we've had. Becoming a bit of a bogey ground for us. I was thinking for a while that maybe some of the early season commentary about our squad was OTT and that, in reality, we're a standard mid-table side this season. And in truth, I'd be happy with a mid-table finish I think, so long as Cooper had a clear plan to take it up a notch and have a decent challenge in his second season. BUT, we'll have got our away games vs Wolves, Peterborough, Preston and Franchise out of the way before the end of September (even if the 4 games will have produced a return of 'nil points')...and I think that counts for something. Even if we lose today, I still think we can realistically aim for a top 6 place as things stand. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:29:38 We sound awful defensively. Perhaps we need to consider bringing Archibald-Henville back and seeing how he does.
The concern for me is the ever growing injury list and the lack of choices to bring in. I believe McEveley is playing with an injury and possibly if we had cover, would have been rested. The size of the squad was always going to be a problem when we started to pick up a few injuries. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:31:52 We sound awful defensively. Perhaps we need to consider bringing Archibald-Henville back and seeing how he does. I hadn't even thought about that. Interesting. And maybe worth a shout. If Lee Cox can make the squad... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:32:07 Portsmouth getting turned over 4-1 at York. How the mighty have fallen.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: adje on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:32:51 To be honest our whole back 4 has been a bit of a liability this season
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:33:58 My boys seem to have an odd fixation with Portsmouth. I hope it's not a Hampshire thing. My stock response is a dismissive 'they're rubbish, ignore them', and Pompey keep giving me more ammunition. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:34:45 If it makes anyone feel any better, both Manchester clubs are losing so there will be plenty of glum faces in Swindon's offices on Monday
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:35:53 I hadn't even thought about that. Interesting. And maybe worth a shout. If Lee Cox can make the squad... Carlisle were conceding for fun until he went there. Of course, the wages might be an issue, as we're obviously not paying them all atm? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:36:28 If it makes anyone feel any better, both Manchester clubs are losing so there will be plenty of glum faces in Swindon's offices on Monday Man Utd 1-1 Edit: Ah damn the slow BBC, 2-1 West Brom :) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:37:12 Man Utd 1-1 Nope, WBA scored again, 2-1 WBA and 3-2 Villa Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:37:32 If it makes anyone feel any better, both Manchester clubs are losing so there will be plenty of glum faces in Swindon's offices on Monday Plus there's three big teams currently down in the relegation places. Things could be worse. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:38:38 Plus there's three big teams currently down in the relegation places. Things could be worse. Yup, Notts County, Sheffield United and Coventry are massive clubs. Title: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:39:14 City are losing to Colchester. Could be worse.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:39:42 Yup, Notts County, Sheffield United and Coventry are massive clubs. Who else? That's the three I meant :D Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:40:31 We're doomed
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: fatbasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:41:58 There goes my £5
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:42:15 If it makes anyone feel any better, both Manchester clubs are losing so there will be plenty of glum faces in Swindon's offices on Monday Off topic, but something I have been wondering for a while: would it be possible to compile a list of towns/cities where the local side was the best supported team? (The measure, for the sake of argument, would be that attendance at 5 or more games a season would make you a fan.) How many such towns/cities are there, and would Swindon make the list? My feeling is that it would - but would be interested to hear the views of others. Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:42:26 N'Guessan injured but no subs left.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:42:35 Yeovil one up at Bolton, think there will be a managerial vacancy there soon!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:43:38 Off topic, but something I have been wondering for a while: would it be possible to compile a list of towns/cities where the local side was the best supported team? (The measure, for the sake of argument, would be that attendance at 5 or more games a season would make you a fan.) How many such towns/cities are there, and would Swindon make the list? My feeling is that it would - but would be interested to hear the views of others. I imagine the difference between the number of Manchester United 'fans' in Swindon and the difference between the number of those who go to 5 or more games a year might be rather vast. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:45:04 To clarify: Swindon would (in my view) make the list because there are more Swindon fans in Swindon than Man Utd fans or Chelsea fans. However, Stevenage probably would not because there are (I think) more Spurs fans in Stevenage than Stevenage fans.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:45:53 Do we have any more spaces to bring a loan player in? Think we may need one as injuries are stacking up
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:47:02 Yeeeeessssssssss 2-1
Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:47:06 Obviously not that injured then!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:47:46 The N'Jured one scores!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:48:09 Pulled one back. Came from nothing.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:48:23 Come on lads
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:48:42 Yeeeeessssssssss 2-1 [Curmudgeon] Consolation goal, if ever there was one. [/Curmudgeon] Title: Re: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:49:34 [Curmudgeon] Reg isn't curmudgeonly...Consolation goal, if ever there was one. [/Curmudgeon] Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:49:52 [Curmudgeon] Consolation goal, if ever there was one. [/Curmudgeon] Probably but "there's now panic in Preston rear-guard" :) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:49:59 Don't be silly, of course we won't :sherlock:
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:50:40 Get a decent ball in and you never know. Hardly sounds like the crowd are urging Preston on!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Gnasher on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:52:49 Well nearly from Kasim.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:52:59 Oh stop with the fucking mumbling...
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:53:53 Corner to Swindon...
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: nochee on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:54:04 The N'Jured one scores! This deserves at least a ;DTitle: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:55:28 Shame we didn't step it up a gear a little bit earlier.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:56:23 FT 2-1
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Langers on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:57:07 Ah well. Was always going to be a tough one after the week we have had.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: adje on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:57:26 nice rally
Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:57:59 Doooooooooooooooomed
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 15:58:04 It will click sooner or later away from home.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:00:57 Doesn't sound like we played our best, but side getting a little disrupted with injuries...tough place to go PNE as we found last year and I think they'll be right up there at the end of the season! Hopefully injured players start coming back...does seem like we've played a lot of the top teams early on this season?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:08:15 Not having Ranger upfront changed the game plan I think - N'Guessan doesnt hold the ball up but attacks the defence himself.
And then losing the 2 players early threw us right off Decent fightback at the end but injuries are mounting and may well be time to call back Troy Not sure how serious Byrne/Thompson or N'Guessans will be but obv Reis out for a while,Ranger a month same for Harley I think and no word on Masons Sounds like Gabbas had a decent game when came on as did Barthram so least have some decent back up players Oh well thats that shit month out the way and we still in the top half of the table and our next opposition are in the bottom 4 Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:13:38 TAH didn't play for Carlisle today. Cooper didn't want to discuss the possibility of him coming back.
Cooper clearly not happy with the performance, McEveley and Foderingham particularly due to the 'comedy' goal. Byrne and N'Guessan with dead legs. Byrne 'mashed' in a challenge, not sure what that means. Ranger might be back within a week. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:17:26 Cooper clearly not happy with the performance, McEveley and Foderingham particularly due to the 'comedy' goal. I do wonder how much of our defensive frailty this season is due to Wes no longer being the 'rock' that he used to be. He seems to have morphed from best keeper in the division to upper mid table in terms of form. Still useful, but his cutting edge has been blunted. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Empathy Sloth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:22:41 I do wonder how much of our defensive frailty this season is due to Wes no longer being the 'rock' that he used to be. He seems to have morphed from best keeper in the division to upper mid table in terms of form. Still useful, but his cutting edge has been blunted. Digby's coaching, been a problem since MacDizzle came in.Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:27:43 Digby's coaching, been a problem since MacDizzle came in. Both Digbys arrival and Wes's downward slide do seem to coincide [/quote]Sam Morshead @SamMorshead_SA 6m Mark Cooper tells me Ryan Mason will be fit for next Saturday's clash with Tranmere[/quote] Some good news at any rate Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:29:47 Digby's coaching, been a problem since MacDizzle came in. It does seem to tie in with the change of goalkeeping coach. As good as a keeper Digby was, maybe he's not a very good coach? His inconsistency will make it less likely for a team to come in for him in January though. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:47:22 Just got back... where do I start?!
We looked lethargic and apathetic from the off. We didn't chase second balls, we didn't win 50/50s, we didn't make space, and we constantly went backwards. I'm perfectly happy with the style we play, but we did it badly today. Far too many balls back to Wes in the first few minutes alone. That wouldn't have been so bad had we maintained our shape, but every time PNE got the ball there were gaping holes, either out wide or through the middle, and the first goal came as a result of somebody going missing (can't remember who). The first half continued in much the same vain, slow passing, no real pressure on them, until the final five minutes when we made one or two incisive passes and completely opened them up. Had we played well, they were there for the taking. On today's showing, they are clearly not a particularly good side. At half time the players should have been encouraged to find more space, to press PNE back further towards their own goal, and to generally up the tempo. We certainly did look a little livelier after the break, but with little result. Their midfield continued to nullify the threat of Kasim and Luongo by starving them of service. N'Guessan did his best to hold the ball up but rarely found anybody in support, and every time the ball went to the full backs they seemed to be isolated. Fair play to Barthram for growing into the game. McEveley, sadly, went the other way. In the first half he'd been done a couple of times, been booked for a cynical foul, and lost the ball in dangerous areas. I said if he carried on he'd lose us the game, and it seems that's what happened. A ball into the box, takes a couple of ricochets, but thankfully finds its way out to Jay who can clear. But no, he plays a lobbed pass back to the keeper, in a crowded penalty area, when the keepers not even there. The game was rapidly turning into a repeat of last season's corresponding fixture, water bottles and raging Italians aside. Thankfully, things did pick up a little in the last 15-20 minutes. Kasim started getting on the ball and showed the touches and turns that we're used to, and he began to bring others into the game. Barthram was making good runs down the right, N'Guessan was peeling off to the wing nicely, and Ajose was making smart runs in behind the centre-backs. A perfectly weighted through ball from kasim picked out one such run, and their keeper did well to touch Ajose's shot round the post. Thompson had gone off, having been clattered by Davies in the first half - a challenge much worse than Byrne's at MK, but which went completely unpunished. Byrne also went off having been upended in the middle of the park (maybe a foul, couldn't tell), and N'Guessan was struggling, starting to limp as the game drew to a close. However, Town were pressing, finally showing some fight, and it was a lovely curling finish rom the one-legged N'Guessan that gave us a bit of hope. Minutes later, I thought we'd drawn level. PNE were being pushed back, we were passing the ball across the edge of their box and finding gaps. El Gabbas worked his way past challenges trying to create something, Barthram was getting balls into the box, and Kasim and Luongo were pulling strings around the D. Eventually, a chance fell to Kasim(?) as he hit a shot first time, right towards the top corner, and Rudd did very well to tip it over the bar. Overall, a disappointing performance in which we showed no fight or desire for well over an hour. I'd give Preston 6/10 for their performance today. They're not as good as their fans seemed to think they are post-match. They played long balls up to Davies, who really could have been booked on 2 or 3 occasions, event sent off on one. They pulled shirts, blocked runs and pushed defenders at every opportunity. A footballing side they are not. Not that I'm bitter... The positives? 1. Wes - why is he getting stick today? He hardly put a foot wrong. Thought he was superb against Chelsea too. Can't see any reason to blame him for the own goal, and he dealt with a series of woeful backpasses very well indeed. 2. Barthram - thrown in at the deep end today but looked fairly solid 3. Glimpses of class - when we played the right way we were in control. Sadly this amounted to about 10-15 minutes of the game, but it shows that we shouldn't be afraid to play our stuff against big, strong teams. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 16:57:37 I don't care how shit we were and how fucking mad you are....you are the Manager and giving one word replies to a radio reporter (a lifeline to a lot of fans) at a post match interview is fucking childish.
I didn't go and while waiting in Salisbury Vodafone for an hour I had texts come through. So...I cannot really comment on the showing...I will read back through...read Reeves so far. PNE will be strong and Davis is a real asset for them. A draw would of been nice.... Onwards... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:15:23 Gave up listening to the manager after the game when PdC was there
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:21:33 I don't care how shit we were and how fucking mad you are....you are the Manager and giving one word replies to a radio reporter (a lifeline to a lot of fans) at a post match interview is fucking childish. Bit more than one word replies:Quote "They've got to deal with it between them. It's a comedy goal. They've scored a goal without even trying," he said. "We can't start games at half-time or after 60 minutes. You have to be ready from the start of the game. Once me made the changes we looked a completely different side. "We didn't deserve it enough. To play for the last 15 minutes doesn't warrant getting a result." "We looked very letharic for large parts of the game. I think the efforts of the other night took it out of us," he said. "If we'd have started the game like we played in the last 15 minutes then it might have been different, but you can't do that. "We didn't pass the ball properly, we didn't match Preston physically and we conceded two sloppy goals." Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:25:05 That quote is a very accurate assessment of the game.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bewster on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:26:21 another early goal - Wolves, City, Preston - bit of a theme developing. Be nice not to have to chase the game
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:28:23 That quote is a very accurate assessment of the game. Yep. Exactly how I saw it. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:39:18 I don't suppose anyone would like to post a list of who is currently injured? I've lost track
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:41:50 Yep. Exactly how I saw it. As your post showed. Shame that we didn't perform as we have done. I've seen enough Town sides for whom that would have been their best performance of the season. By playing as we have though, that was a let down.Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:43:57 I don't suppose anyone would like to post a list of who is currently injured? I've lost track Navarro Harley Ranger Reis Smith Mason - back next week? Thompson - injured to day Byrne - injured today Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 17:46:44 Bit more than one word replies: Any news on Troy? No Will you dip into the transfer market ref all the injuries? No So...you are happy with the squad? Yes Do you think Sonic and Flash are cunts? Yes Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 18:56:57 Positives.... being near enough that I got home for baby's bath and bedtime.
There was great concern when we assembled this team they would be bullied by larger more streetwise teams and that's what I thought happened today. Preston were niggly/clever, there was a lot of physical challenges and feet left in challenges and through that and the nullification of Kasim and Luongo they bossed the midfield. I don't see how you can blame Wes for the goals or suggest he is a liability, the only fault that I can see with Digby's training is that it is not turning him into a ball playing sweeper - which in many ways goes to the heart of the problems I have no problem us playing the way we do, but we are going to struggle for the simple fact that we don't have a ball playing defender and thus if a team is on top of the midfield it breaks down. I lost count today of the number of times it went back an forth across the back four without going anywhere, eventually it went back to Wes who had to lump it. You could see Wes getting more frustrated by the minute in the first half as he tried to find someone to lay the ball off to, and this only got worse as Preston started to close him down when he had the ball. Wes becomes the out ball when the defenders are under pressure and this means he is under pressure as he gets ever more ridiculous back passes to deal with, often on his wrong foot! I could not figure out whether N'Guessan was good or not for around 80 minutes until the lad I with had a revelation, he's our own version of Heskey - built like a brick out house but seems to get bullied off the ball and falls over! The Egyptian when he came on looked keen and made a real effort, he was very direct and I think if he had been on earlier we may have got something more. Davies is a clever player, left a foot in on Thompson and makes sure he leaps with a leading arm when he jumps, how he avoided at least a booking I don't know although it did reach the stage that I did wonder if short of one of their players pulling a knife on one of our players we were never going to get a decision. When he stopped play and gave Kasim a long lecture for a tackle which whilst very late did not actually involve Kasim connecting with the ball or player it just summed it up. By only getting to away games in the north west, not sure last time I actually saw us win. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: dalumpimunki on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 19:09:30 Positives.... being near enough that I got home for baby's bath and bedtime. I don't see how you can blame Wes for the goals or suggest he is a liability, the only fault that I can see with Digby's training is that it is not turning him into a ball playing sweeper - which in many ways goes to the heart of the problems I have no problem us playing the way we do, but we are going to struggle for the simple fact that we don't have a ball playing defender and thus if a team is on top of the midfield it breaks down. I lost count today of the number of times it went back an forth across the back four without going anywhere, eventually it went back to Wes who had to lump it. So what about bringing Troy back? Could we even think about going to a back three? Thompson and Byrne as wingbacks, dropping J. Mac whose been a bit of a liability, a midfield three of Kasim, Loungo and Mason, then two up front? It could be a proper return to the Hoddle era. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 19:11:23 I have no problem us playing the way we do, but we are going to struggle for the simple fact that we don't have a ball playing defender and thus if a team is on top of the midfield it breaks down. Interesting observation Hall does have the ability to play the ball, Ward does to a certain extent. JMc probably the least proficient among the back line. Who already at the club is the answer ? Only saw Troy play in midfield and he didnt look good there and not seen Alex Smith play. Cant recall Cox either as so long ago, Barthram can play in the back line and apparently had a decent game when came on today Preston played with a back 5 today with 2 wing backs and looks like town struggled early on with that formation Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 19:22:31 McEveley is not an attacking defender and just looks a bit like fish out of water if he has to try and pick a pass.
But..... A) he doesn't get close to the attacker and gives them room to run at him. B) he doesn't appear able to run backward so if he sees that the ball is going to be played behind him he turns his back very early to try and get in position and therefore often doesn't actually know where the ball is going to land. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 19:37:08 Preston played with a back 5 today with 2 wing backs and looks like town struggled early on with that formation The reason we struggled at the start was that we played hugely within ourselves, and looked several yards off the pace. I'm convinced that we would have beaten them had we showed what we can do, whether they played 4-4-2, 5-3-2 or a Mike Bassett Christmas pudding. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 28, 2013, 19:47:05 Mike Bassett Christmas pudding. 3-5-1-1 May end up facing that yet this season :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 06:35:58 Can't Barthram play at Left or Right Back? If so, maybe he's in a position to start on the Left v Tranmere...Providing Thompson is fit, that is.
Do we know a time frame on when Smith could be back? That would be handy, looked good when he played, sounded decent v QPR. Mason back next week is a boost. El Gabas sounding promising too.. Did Cooper say that Ranger COULD be back next week or is that just speculation? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 06:38:34 BUT, we'll have got our away games vs Wolves, Peterborough, Preston and Franchise out of the way before the end of September (even if the 4 games will have produced a return of 'nil points')...and I think that counts for something. Even if we lose today, I still think we can realistically aim for a top 6 place as things stand.
[/quote] We got a point against the Franchise....but like you say, luckily we've got a lot of the 'big' away games out of the way nice and early. I think against those teams at home we'll be bossing it, personally. Title: Re: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Only Me on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 10:05:27 Any news on Troy? No Well, he answered all the questions and there is no need for more informationWill you dip into the transfer market ref all the injuries? No So...you are happy with the squad? Yes Do you think Sonic and Flash are cunts? Yes Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:06:54 Extended highlights of the game ( well more than the FL show had anyway )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vl1gPbmEXI&feature=youtu.be&a JMc culpable for both Prestons goals ? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:20:28 That own goal will haunt JMac for a while. Feel sorry for him. Horrific.
And Preston's ground really is too big for them. Impressive structure, no doubt about it, but clearly not built with League 1 in mind. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:23:23 What the hell was he trying to do anyway? It's not as though Foderingham could pick it up
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:24:25 Wouldn't blame JMac for the first, the big gaping hole in our defence is.
The second one, oh dear. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:25:45 What the hell was he trying to do anyway? It's not as though Foderingham could pick it up Was just wondering that myself. What a strange thing for him to do. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DV on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:30:16 Stupidest own goal, ever!!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:34:21 Wouldn't blame JMac for the first, the big gaping hole in our defence is. The second one, oh dear. Not for the hole, but the attempted clearance/challenge on Hume! Looks like a few poor decisions yesterday. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:37:35 Wouldn't blame JMac for the first, the big gaping hole in our defence is. The second one, oh dear. Really? Being caught out of position and trying to kick the guy in the chest instead of jumping to contest the header with the bloke he should have been marking? You don't see the blame on Jmac for that? I suppose I can be smug about the fact he's a waste of space because I've been saying it for ages, but it doesn't help. He has average games sometimes and lulls us into a false sense of security, but he never has a good one. Both of those goals are comedic and should never have happened. Fucking scouser. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:39:16 Let's hope Smith get's well soon! He looked decent...anyone know how long he's out or what's wrong with him?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:44:04 What a pair of fucking shit goals to concede! Why didn't jmac header it instead of letting Hume get there first! Pathetic!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: donkey on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 11:55:25 Sorry to say but Kasim was responsible for the first goal. The highlights don't show it. Tbf his reaction showed he knew this too.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:12:42 Sorry to say but Kasim was responsible for the first goal. The highlights don't show it. Tbf his reaction showed he knew this too. Kasim is human after all then!!..... ??? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:17:30 Even as someone who hasn't been often yet this season, it's clear to see that something needs to change at the back. The second goal, in particular, showed that the communication/understanding between the keeper and his defenders is not there.
If we carry on conceding at the current rate, we are on course to concede 66 goals this season. Last season, we conceded 39. Even when you consider that we have had a tough opening two months, that is a frightening statistic that needs to be remedied. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:18:56 Sorry to say but Kasim was responsible for the first goal. The highlights don't show it. Tbf his reaction showed he knew this too. LIES, BURN THE HERETIC! :furious: Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: RedRag on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:20:42 I lost count today of the number of times it went back an forth across the back four without going anywhere, eventually it went back to Wes who had to lump it.....Wes becomes the out ball when the defenders are under pressure and this means he is under pressure as he gets ever more ridiculous back passes to deal with, often on his wrong foot! Good pointI think JMac's ridiculous backpass was a symptom of what you say - Wes would have had to half volley a clearance or take a touch of a bouncing ball on his own goal line at best. JMac's responsibility but not sure what Wes was doing sprinting off his line either Don't know if we've got too precious to coach defenders in the merits of "Row z" and "Get yer head in" Interesting stat on the 66 goals by Ardiles too - fairly clear where the problem is now that Williams is no longer our lone target man. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:22:07 Sorry to say but Kasim was responsible for the first goal. The highlights don't show it. Tbf his reaction showed he knew this too. Maybe he was responsible earlier in the move It was JMc on the 3yd line trying to kick a ball that wanted heading He made no attempt to go up and challenge for the ball ::) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Munichred on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:57:21 Just watched the highlights. Looked a possible penalty for us on our last attack. A point would have been welcome, if undeserved.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:09:41 A player who get's a lot of stick is Grant Hall, I think he's alright but clearly lacks experience...
I'm wondering how good Branco is....also same goes for Belford...I wonder if either will get the nod against Plymouth...we've never been a team who have used their back up goalkeepers...Jesionkowsi, Scott, Bedwell etc.. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:15:17 Anyone else notice that after we scored our goal their keeper took down whoever our number 33 is? Looks like he punched him in the crotch! That's a fucking red card if ever I've see one...
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:16:51 Maybe he was responsible earlier in the move It was JMc on the 3yd line trying to kick a ball that wanted heading He made no attempt to go up and challenge for the ball ::) It's the traditional scapegoat player though isn't it. JMc should have challenged better but it should have never got that far! We get carved apart on the right but apparently the only person to blame is the left back. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:19:38 No he isnt the only player to blame but ffs put in a challenge on the 3yd line
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:20:32 McEvely did bad for both goals, I don't think he was aware of Hume, hence thinking he could kick it. I thought Wes could probably have got to the backpass though, makes a right hash of trying to clear it off the line!
Our defence is the weakest part, I don't think Wes has been as commanding, and I still can't see a solid understanding between Ward and Hall. Nice goal by Dany. Hope Thompson isn't out long, he's great. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:37:32 McEvely did bad for both goals, I don't think he was aware of Hume, hence thinking he could kick it. I thought Wes could probably have got to the backpass though, makes a right hash of trying to clear it off the line! Our defence is the weakest part, I don't think Wes has been as commanding, and I still can't see a solid understanding between Ward and Hall. Nice goal by Dany. Hope Thompson isn't out long, he's great. The problem with the defence yesterday was that as Kasim and Luongo were being marked out the game they had no outlet so we ended up giving it back to Preston. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:46:48 Was that the case? I was not there yesterday, so only had the highlights to go on. Sounds like we need a 'Plan B' when teams combat our passing routes out from the back. I suppose not having Ranger as a 'route one' out ball meant it came straight back too?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 13:51:03 Another thing is, a lot of people who were at the game were making points about how dirty Preston were..it's one thing being physical, but totally different to being dirty with it..
2 injuries in the first half due to harsh tackles, neither of which resulted in a caution...consistency is so lacking in refereeing in general, even more so in the Football League... Oh, that's not an excuse for losing the game, I wasn't there, but the general consensus is that we were fucking shit. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:05:24 ...consistency is so lacking in refereeing in general, even more so in the Football League... On MOTD last night they showed a challenge from Nolan ( Wet spam ) on Rosenior where Nolan got a yellow Slow mo shows he went in 2 footed and had left the floor completely which is a straight red And there was a tackle on Giroud which went unpunished that was worse than Byrnes red v franchise Inconsistency Title: Re: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:13:40 It's the traditional scapegoat player though isn't it. JMc should have challenged better but it should have never got that far! We get carved apart on the right but apparently the only person to blame is the left back. That was exactly what I meant. he definitely could and should have done better. But The defence had parted like the red sea and most culpable. In any case we don't have much alternative at left back. Byrne is a worse defender and... Er, that's it Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:14:07 On MOTD last night they showed a challenge from Nolan ( Wet spam ) on Rosenior where Nolan got a yellow Slow mo shows he went in 2 footed and had left the floor completely which is a straight red And there was a tackle on Giroud which went unpunished that was worse than Byrnes red v franchise Inconsistency Absolutely, I know there's such a thing as 'human error' but fuck me, some humans are prone to some massive fucking errors! I feel that swearing in mid-sentence really show my dislike or love of something... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Barnard on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:32:29 I'm still convinced that McEverley is a decent player. He's played too many games at a higher level for his current form to be representative of what he can do.
The bloke seems to be absolutely lacking in confidence at the moment, which is leading to poor decision making and a vicious circle is created. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:36:21 The bloke seems to be absolutely lacking in confidence at the moment, which is leading to poor decision making and a vicious circle is created. Sounds like A Williams And Roberts :hmmm: Bit of a theme appearing Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 14:37:30 .......and Alan O'Brien...oh wait, nah..he was just shite! ???
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DV on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 16:32:19 If we carry on conceding at the current rate, we are on course to concede 66 goals this season. Last season, we conceded 39. Even when you consider that we have had a tough opening two months, that is a frightening statistic that needs to be remedied. Do we have a specific defensive coach at the moment? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DV on Sunday, September 29, 2013, 16:36:11 On MOTD last night they showed a challenge from Nolan ( Wet spam ) on Rosenior where Nolan got a yellow Slow mo shows he went in 2 footed and had left the floor completely which is a straight red And there was a tackle on Giroud which went unpunished that was worse than Byrnes red v franchise Inconsistency Considering each decision is made by a different ref from a different angle at different speeds- I'm not sure why people expect such consistency. It's human judgement at the end of the day. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 30, 2013, 10:07:06 Preston fans come over as a bunch of dickheads on FF.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 30, 2013, 10:36:29 Considering each decision is made by a different ref from a different angle at different speeds- I'm not sure why people expect such consistency. It's human judgement at the end of the day. When the same ref in the same game is inconsistent it is a bit crap. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Power to people on Monday, September 30, 2013, 11:56:53 It does seem to tie in with the change of goalkeeping coach. As good as a keeper Digby was, maybe he's not a very good coach? His inconsistency will make it less likely for a team to come in for him in January though. Digby is not an experienced coach, he is basically an ex player brought in, before he was brought in here at the beggining I think he worked part time on his own business not as a goal keeping coach. I would say surely Wes needs someone who has experience as a GK coach, I think that Picareta (?) the GK under PDC had experence as a coach and Wes did see to be improving, but since KMac & Cooper who dosen't look as assured. But this maybe also due to asking Wes to play perhaps slightly different role in coming a lot earlier and always being available for the ball almost playing as a sweeper at times. The other side to this is that every coach has to start somewhere. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:07:46 Digby is not an experienced coach, he is basically an ex player brought in, before he was brought in here at the beggining I think he worked part time on his own business not as a goal keeping coach. I would say surely Wes needs someone who has experience as a GK coach, I think that Picareta (?) the GK under PDC had experence as a coach and Wes did see to be improving, but since KMac & Cooper who dosen't look as assured. But this maybe also due to asking Wes to play perhaps slightly different role in coming a lot earlier and always being available for the ball almost playing as a sweeper at times. The other side to this is that every coach has to start somewhere. As I said before I really don't get why this debate is going on about Wes and by extension Digby... Based on Saturdays performance (and the back end of last season) the short comings in Wes's game are that he doesn't have the skill to dribble round an on-coming attacker having been given yet another suicide back pass on his wrong foot, its nothing to do with goal keeping and all to do with being behind a defence who did not have the normal out ball to midfield so when pressed went sideways and backwards. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:17:17 I get that bit... my criticism of him at the back end of last season was based on the raft of penalties he conceded by rushing out and taking down centre forwards (how he never got a red, I'll never know). Those scenarios alone made me question his concentration/decision making.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:22:14 Personally I think its down to better quality of teams/players we are playing and reduced quailty/organisation of our back four.
He was superb V Chelski Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: pauld on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:23:35 Digby is not an experienced coach, he is basically an ex player brought in, before he was brought in here at the beggining I think he worked part time on his own business not as a goal keeping coach. And you know this, do you? I was under the impression he'd done a fair bit of goalkeeper coaching, albeit on a private basis rather than attached to a club, before getting involved in the kit business. But I don't know that's the case, so I'd hesitate to criticise him on the basis of some half-remembered "I think I read somewhere that....". If you do know for a fact that he's not done it before, then fair enough. If you don't, might be an idea to check your facts before saying the bloke's no good on the back of assumptions.... The other side to this is that every coach has to start somewhere. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:27:45 A question for those fans who were actually at Preston on Saturday: Cooper said we changed formation and went to a 352 late on. So who played in which position, and who was sweeper between the two markers?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Batch on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:29:52 He certainly done some goalkeeper coaching, not at a professional club though AFAIK. And at one point was looking at setting up goalkeeper coaching courses in the area.
But even so, its a bit of a leap to say Digby has made Wes worse. Its one possibility, granted, but it could be anything. The way we play and the personnel in front of him leaving him more exposed, or Wes himself becoming comfortable in the job and relaxing a bit too much, or responding worse to Cooper not beating him up in the same PDC did, or, or... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: reeves4england on Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:35:29 As I said a couple of pages back, Wes has played very well in the last two games in my opinion. Don't remember him making any mistakes at MK either really.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 30, 2013, 13:26:26 Re Foderingham....it's not unusual for keepers to come in as young players, look to have a really bright future, then performances tail off a bit. Look at Joe Hart, look at Chris Kirkland, look at Paul Robinson...the list goes on.
Think what happens, is that to be a long term consistent goalkeeper requires psychological fortitude...young keepers enter this phase unknowingly...the strong minded survive and have long careers, the weak end up as personal trainers in a David Lloyd sports centre. That keepers are a strange breed...look no further than Dosser's hero, the man who took the Icke out of cricket....also Albert Camus, who put all he knew about morality down to football, he was a keeper, and Vladimir Nabakov, no doubt Graham Rix's author of choice who wrote.... As with folded arms I leant against the left goalpost. I enjoyed the luxury of closing my eyes, and thus I would listen to my heart knocking and feel the blind drizzle on my face, and hear in the distance the broken sounds of the game, and think of myself as of a fabulous exotic being in an English footballer’s disguise composing my verse in a tongue nobody understood about a remote country nobody knew. Small wonder I was not very popular with my teammates. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 30, 2013, 13:40:02 Re Foderingham....it's not unusual for keepers to come in as young players, look to have a really bright future, then performances tail off a bit. Look at Joe Hart, look at Chris Kirkland, look at Paul Robinson...the list goes on. IMO this happened to Digby himself - especially after the injury at Palace. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 30, 2013, 17:23:22 He may have done coaching before, he may had even had his own business doing it. It doesn't mean he has to be any good at it.
I can only go on what I see and that is, in my view, Wes is a worse keeper now then when PDC's crew were here. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, September 30, 2013, 17:55:27 Wes picked up a blatant backpass in one of his first games here
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 30, 2013, 19:17:59 Wes picked up a blatant backpass in one of his first games here he time travelled to train with digby then went back and played that match. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 30, 2013, 19:34:23 IMO this happened to Digby himself - especially after the injury at Palace. Which year was that? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 30, 2013, 19:43:25 Which year was that? 87 in the 87/88 season....brought us a first look at Nicky Hammond :) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 30, 2013, 19:50:38 he time travelled to train with digby then went back and played that match. He also did an amazing save on Saturday, he must have remembered that from the training he was given 2 years ago. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 30, 2013, 19:52:54 So I sat through the Preston tunnelcam footage in the vain hope of some drama. To spare you a similar fate, here are the "highlights":
6:38-7:15 Cooper waits for the ref at h/t to complain about a player leading with his elbow (Davies I imagine) 8:55-9:57 Grayson waits in the tunnel to give Darren Ward a warm greeting. Where do they know each other from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZydG-OPDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZydG-OPDU) Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 30, 2013, 20:00:12 That's quite interesting, it'll be better with sound though!
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, September 30, 2013, 21:03:39 8:55-9:57 Grayson waits in the tunnel to give Darren Ward a warm greeting. Where do they know each other from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZydG-OPDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZydG-OPDU) They both drink from the same pool of stagnent water to prevent calf strains and dinosaur attacks. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 18:27:28 September felt like a pretty decent month for us yet we only won once. It says a lot about our expectations, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: herthab on Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 19:08:52 September felt like a pretty decent month for us yet we only won once. It says a lot about our expectations, doesn't it? I think it says a lot about some of our performances. We deserved a lot more than one point out of franchise and Wolves. Wins will come. As to expectations, I'll still be happy with a top half finish.Title: Re: Re: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 19:13:27 I think it says a lot about some of our performances. We deserved a lot more than one point out of franchise and Wolves. Wins will come. As to expectations, I'll still be happy with a top half finish. Agreed. Wolves was probably the best performance I've seen in my time as a Town fan (not much competition admittedly) and we played well against both Franchise and Chelsea. In previous years, the level of performance wouldn't have mattered to many and the results would have been considered unacceptable - that's why I think our expectations as a fanbase has shifted, partially because we've finally developed a sense of patience and also because we've demonstrated on a number of occasions just how good we can be. I hope this continues for a few years even if we don't enjoy any success. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 06:41:32 I forgot to predict a score for this. I was going for a 2-0 Preston win, any chance I can get the prediction table updated Samdy?
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 07:48:48 Nope, sorry. I know you forgot and it was an incorrect prediction, but I'm sure other people forget too and it wouldn't be fair on them (or on me to have to keep entering predictions after the event).
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 07:53:22 Nope, sorry. I know you forgot and it was an incorrect prediction, but I'm sure other people forget too and it wouldn't be fair on them (or on me to have to keep entering predictions after the event). It was a little toungue in cheek and didn't really expect you to mate! More irritated with myself for forgetting to do it!! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 11:39:42 Anyone else notice that after we scored our goal their keeper took down whoever our number 33 is? Looks like he punched him in the crotch! That's a fucking red card if ever I've see one... I was going to post about that! Dirty fucker- just like the rest of his team by the sounds of it. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 11:53:52 I was going to post about that! Dirty fucker- just like the rest of his team by the sounds of it. They were just niggly all over the pitch and exposed our naievity as much as anything! However Kevin Davies deserves everything he gets, the way he left his foot in on Thompson was well nawty. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 11:57:51 The Thompson twins dish out as much if not more than they get. They'll injure plenty of players and get plenty of cards over their careers.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 12:13:28 The Thompson twins dish out as much if not more than they get. They'll injure plenty of players and get plenty of cards over their careers. The difference being that they (particularly Nath) put in proper tackles not cowardly ones like Davies on Saturday though. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 12:18:13 The Thompson twins dish out as much if not more than they get. They'll injure plenty of players and get plenty of cards over their careers. They are neither intentionally dirty. Nathan especially does go in hard (hehe) but his eyes are always on the ball. Davies has made a career of being dirty. Got away with it and then some last week, but it's not the reason we lost, obviously. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 12:34:33 but it's not the reason we lost, obviously. It's certainly not Tails. We were poor until the last 15 end of. Davies' treatment by the ref on Saturday was the exact reason Byrne's sending off annoyed the hell out of me. A lot was said on here about "the letter of the law" after MK. Where was this letter of the law on Saturday I ask myself? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 14:25:05 Cooper said it recently and it must be doing his head in, there seems to be no consistency at all among referees. I've become increasingly frustrated with it, we're quite an 'honest' team yet we seem to be punished for not cheating. OK granted, Pritchard and Ranger have probably been guilty of going to ground too easily but it seems to me that since Di Canio left, we haven't really had the rub of the green decisions wise. Brentford play off second leg a prime example.
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 14:28:40 Cooper said it recently and it must be doing his head in, there seems to be no consistency at all among referees. I've become increasingly frustrated with it, we're quite an 'honest' team yet we seem to be punished for not cheating. OK granted, Pritchard and Ranger have probably been guilty of going to ground too easily but it seems to me that since Di Canio left, we haven't really had the rub of the green decisions wise. Brentford play off second leg a prime example. Been going for a lot longer then that, I remember one game when Wilson was in charge, we were playing Hartlepool at home midweek, ref was blatently biased, didnt give us anything, gave them everything, including a penalty in the last 5 mins. Worst ref performance I have witnessed ever!!! I cant remember who the ref was, but he deserves a flying headbutt! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 15:41:46 Yeah but I think over that period it evened itself out. Since Di Canio left I don't think we've really had any favours.
Another example, L. Thompson lunges into a challenge v Bristol City, wins the ball, and is booked. Literally within seconds, Fielding takes Ranger down in an equally lungey fashion, also winning the ball, and we got sod all. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 15:48:14 We just have bad press mate, in that unfortunatly forms opinions in peoples minds! Karl robinson is another case in point when he said something along the lines off:
'how can we compete with a club that went into admin for the 3rd time, and then splashed out 400k on a player' Ill informed bollocks mate! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 15:53:23 Been going for a lot longer then that, I remember one game when Wilson was in charge, we were playing Hartlepool at home midweek, ref was blatently biased, didnt give us anything, gave them everything, including a penalty in the last 5 mins. Worst ref performance I have witnessed ever!!! I cant remember who the ref was, but he deserves a flying headbutt! The pen was for a high foot as well!! High fucking foot!! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 15:57:56 The pen was for a high foot as well!! High fucking foot!! ....and it was outside the box and not even a penalty if it was inside the box!!!! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 17:09:45 We just have bad press mate, in that unfortunatly forms opinions in peoples minds! Karl robinson is another case in point when he said something along the lines off: I've got an idea how you can compete, Karl - how about not bothering risking the severe uncertainties of a fight upwardly through several leagues and instead buying a club, renaming it, dumping its existing fans, relocating it to where you happen to be and - voila - you are ready to compete, no mess!'how can we compete with a club that went into admin for the 3rd time, and then splashed out 400k on a player' Ill informed bollocks mate! Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 17:12:54 We just have bad press mate, in that unfortunatly forms opinions in peoples minds! Karl robinson is another case in point when he said something along the lines off: 'how can we compete with a club that went into admin for the 3rd time, and then splashed out 400k on a player' Ill informed bollocks mate! How can you compete?! Fuck off, Robinson. Your sorry excuse for a 'club' shouldn't even exist. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 6, 2013, 17:46:41 Got a surprising degree of pleasure by watching the obnoxious Preston keeper having a total mare in their game yesterday, buggered up massively for two goals.
What goes around sunshine.... Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 6, 2013, 18:05:35 One went through his hands didn't it?!
Plus the Flint backpass. And much as I have a mild disklike of the Pikies, it was a pleasure to see them sink Franchise. And the Scum lost. As did Rovers and Cheltenham, both 1 point outside the drop zone. And Reading lost and Charlie got a brace for QPR :) Great day of football results really. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, October 6, 2013, 18:15:26 Plus the Flint backpass. For those that didnt see the Flint through ball :clap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UQCIdIGhM Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 6, 2013, 18:38:29 For those that didnt see the Flint through ball :clap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UQCIdIGhM He executed that pass with aplomb. Great vision, good work agent Flint. Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: dalumpimunki on Sunday, October 6, 2013, 21:06:30 He executed that pass with aplomb. Great vision, good work agent Flint. To be fair the entire passage of play leading up to that goal from a City point of view is just fucking embarrassing. I had to watch it twice because the first time I just assumed City were attacking the goal to the right. What the fuck were they all up to? Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, October 7, 2013, 00:02:36 The Flint double take to see Hughes is excellent...
Title: Re: Preston North End v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 7, 2013, 08:38:43 Hughes and his fucking gay shit dance. Just fuck off you bald murdering cunt.
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