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Title: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: News Monkey on Monday, July 29, 2013, 06:00:07
SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
           
           



  SWINDON Town return to training at Liddington this morning without a new manager, but chairman Jed McCrory remains determined not to rush into a kneejerk appointment.

           

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Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 29, 2013, 08:03:09
No shit Sherlock.....Dickie Dosh all over again.

Let's wait until Christmas....if we are mid table let Cooper keep the job.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 08:58:30
Quote
“The club at the minute is as strong as it has been internally, which hasn’t been reflected externally as yet

I like this line....anyone hazard a guess as to what the thinking behind it is.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: london_red on Monday, July 29, 2013, 09:21:48
I like this line....anyone hazard a guess as to what the thinking behind it is.

Means they are waiting to announce Tisdale's appointment  :)


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 29, 2013, 09:47:09
Means they are waiting to announce Tisdale's appointment  :)
Don't rule it out ;)


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:01:49
Let's wait until Christmas....if we are mid table let Cooper keep the job.

I wouldn't have a problem with that - It would mean that he was doing a good job.

I also wouldn't have a problem if we were waiting until the preferred candidate was more easily releasable from his current post/contract. For example, if waiting a few weeks saves the club £100,000s then why not?

Ideally though, it would be nice to have a good candidate (that wasn't going to financially cripple the club) in place now.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: The_Doctor on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:08:30
Means they are waiting to announce Tisdale's appointment  :)

Knowing our luck we will announce his appointment and then Exeter will say we havent contacted them yet and we dont end up getting him!  :girlgiggle: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:10:06
My feeling is that it wont be Tisdale,the man with the Fez will be given a chance.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: wokinghamred on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:11:37

We need a manager in place. No-one ever won anything without a manager.

If our plan for this season is to survive, rather than compete, then tell us now Jed. Then I can stay at home, and save my cash.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:16:58
We need a manager in place. No-one ever won anything without a manager.

If our plan for this season is to survive, rather than compete, then tell us now Jed. Then I can stay at home, and save my cash.

He's never going to say that is he?


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:19:46
We need a manager in place. No-one ever won anything without a manager.

If our plan for this season is to survive, rather than compete, then tell us now Jed. Then I can stay at home, and save my cash.

With respect, it's obvious that we're in survival mode....and nothing particularly wrong with that..it's our challenge for the season to try and remain a Div 3 team.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:20:31
We need a manager in place. No-one ever won anything without a manager.

If our plan for this season is to survive, rather than compete, then tell us now Jed. Then I can stay at home, and save my cash.
If you feel that way then just stay home and save your cash anyway, may well be a lot of fans like that this season. I though am actually a little optimistic as long as we get the right man in as manager.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Loobug on Monday, July 29, 2013, 11:24:52
I'm actually optimistic too. Communications aside and yes, things could be better. It looks to me like things are moving in the right direction on several fronts, from a business perspective. A lot has been achieved in a short space of time and although we made the PO's last year, there are few players that I'd have been gutted to see go and if they are too expensive, then why not replace them. If we have to do it with loans, so what? Save some money and bring our own in after having had time to evaluate properly. The lack of communication or a lack of big transfer / manager news does not equal a lack of progress, in fact it is probably the opposite. I'll happily wait for the new manager.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 29, 2013, 11:38:20
With respect, it's obvious that we're in survival mode....and nothing particularly wrong with that..it's our challenge for the season to try and remain a Div 3 team.

Jed is hardly likley to say when questioned by the Advertiser ' Nah bollocks to it we are desparate to appoint, in fact we will appoint anyone who wants the job.'

Something of a non story once again.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: The Great Stan on Monday, July 29, 2013, 13:25:42
Seems to me that they want Cooper to oversee the first couple of games and if we aint hammered out of sight they will appoint him.

Shit way of deciding on a manager


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 16:41:38
Seems to me that they want Cooper to oversee the first couple of games and if we aint hammered out of sight they will appoint him.

Shit way of deciding on a manager

But the most economic on account he already has a contract,makes good financial sense.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: The Great Stan on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:03:07
But, surely, economics shouldn't be the deciding factor on the most important position in a football club?

Not saying Cooper would defo be a clusterfuck but I'm sure it would put even more of the fanbase in 'anti' mode then there already is


Title: Re: Re: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:07:37
But, surely, economics shouldn't be the deciding factor on the most important position in a football club?

Not saying Cooper would defo be a clusterfuck but I'm sure it would put even more of the fanbase in 'anti' mode then there already is
Unless he's successful, then no one would give a fuck.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:07:48
If he is appointed, I'd imagine the most common response would be mild disappointment followed by a willingness to give him a go for the first 6 or 7 games.  Di Canio lost 4 on the trot early on, and Cooper wouldn't be cut anything like as much slack if his early results were as bad.  But he'd get the benefit of the doubt for a short period, I'd expect.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:08:42
He's the one person I desperately don't want.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:09:19
But, surely, economics shouldn't be the deciding factor on the most important position in a football club?

McCrory has made this clear from the outset...well after his flirtation with the budget being the same...and it has informed decisions since, so unless things have changed, and we've been told we're still about half a mill over budget...the cheap option seems most likely.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: The_Doctor on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:10:40
don't want cooper, bollocks to that, your all going soft, The board read these forums, we should be 100% against appointing cooper. He has done fuck all, was even shit at Telford.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:16:48
To be honest its not a bad time to manage the Town.

Great things are not expected(unlike with Paolo) and the pressure not quite as high to succeed.

Lets hope for the best.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:22:15
don't want cooper, bollocks to that, your all going soft, The board read these forums, we should be 100% against appointing cooper. He has done fuck all, was even shit at Telford.

I'd imagine if we can offload Caddis, Benson, Navarro, L Rooney, Cox and sort A Rooney to our advantage, then it might free up some money for a manager, otherwise...it'll be Cooper, prob with Pitman next if it goes pear shaped.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:23:59
They'd have appointed Cooper by now, surely?


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:25:36
They'd have appointed Cooper by now, surely?

As I've said before, he's currently doing the job on an asst wage....no need to promote him yet, if at all so save a few bob.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:26:15
Not if they're planning to give him 3 games and see how it goes. If we lose all three, they'll appoint someone else and claim Cooper was never a serious option. If we do well, they might just keep him on as a reward for the good start?


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:32:46
They'd have appointed Cooper by now, surely?

They have,he is taking training and will be in charge the first few matches.

It's just not been made official yet.

To be fair i say we should give him a shot...our expectations will not be to high then.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:33:58
Wouldn't be surprised to see Darren Ward in on some sort of new player/assistant contract. Saves money on hiring another coach.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Langers on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:38:32
Have we ever started a season without a manager before?



Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 17:45:42
Have we ever started a season without a manager before?

Not since the 1950's, when the then Board thought they could save a few bob and do it themselves....but we've had this debate lready.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:03:44
If Robson was an applicant with no existing association with the club, he wouldn't be a serious contender because he has no track record or appealing characteristics that set him apart from the field. It's his lack of those that make him a cheap option.

The idea that we appoint a manager by default, because they are in situ, is baffling. We are talking about the position with the greatest impact on the on field affairs of the club. The one man who can make players individually, and the team collectively, play well, play poorly, or tread water.

Interview the guy by all means, but if this board are to act as anything other than administrators, then they must appoint a man for his abilities, not his lack of them, or perhaps more fairly, his failure to display them in his managerial career to date.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:14:19
Fucking he'll I'm depressed about this season already....without a manager opening day fills me full of dread.

I hope Cooper is King Midas....otherwise the moaning minnies will start.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:17:09
If Robson was an applicant with no existing association with the club, he wouldn't be a serious contender because he has no track record or appealing characteristics that set him apart from the field. It's his lack of those that make him a cheap option.

The idea that we appoint a manager by default, because they are in situ, is baffling. We are talking about the position with the greatest impact on the on field affairs of the club. The one man who can make players individually, and the team collectively, play well, play poorly, or tread water.

Interview the guy by all means, but if this board are to act as anything other than administrators, then they must appoint a man for his abilities, not his lack of them, or perhaps more fairly, his failure to display them in his managerial career to date.

Robson :hmmm:


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:20:15
Robson :hmmm:
It wasn't just me then!


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:21:59
Robson :hmmm:

Could be the ghost of Sir Bobby....or maybe Brian needs a job. Pop Robson got fired out as Mackem scout when PdC took over...


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:22:11
If the board appoint Cooper they can't complain at the shit they will get! Cooper will get much more grief than KMac from the fans too as he will be written off instantly plus, if results go badly then shit will hit the fan.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:22:50
Wor Bobby Robson will pick the team via Ouija board!


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:24:13
I think somebody should just point out that Cooper has not, and may not, be appointed.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:24:39
Robson :hmmm:


Robson, Cooper....whatever his name is!!


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:25:56
I think somebody should just point out that Cooper has not, and may not, be appointed.

It might be worth also pointing out that Cooper is currently "managing" us and nobody else has been appointed.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:28:18
It might be worth also pointing out that Cooper is currently "managing" us and nobody else has been appointed.

And....


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:44:16
If the board appoint Cooper they can't complain at the shit they will get! Cooper will get much more grief than KMac from the fans too as he will be written off instantly plus, if results go badly then shit will hit the fan.

that says more about our support (I use that term loosely) than anything else.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:57:15

Robson, Cooper....whatever his name is!!

I am becoming one of them Grammar manager police things.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 29, 2013, 18:57:24
that says more about our support (I use that term loosely) than anything else.

Charge high prices you get high expectations.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 29, 2013, 19:04:48
I am becoming one of them Grammar manager police things.
:D


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:27:46
I'm actually optimistic too. Communications aside and yes, things could be better. It looks to me like things are moving in the right direction on several fronts, from a business perspective. A lot has been achieved in a short space of time and although we made the PO's last year, there are few players that I'd have been gutted to see go and if they are too expensive, then why not replace them. If we have to do it with loans, so what? Save some money and bring our own in after having had time to evaluate properly. The lack of communication or a lack of big transfer / manager news does not equal a lack of progress, in fact it is probably the opposite. I'll happily wait for the new manager.

Decent post - totally agree.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:36:38
Charge high prices you get high expectations.

Its not really the current lots pricing is it? OK perhaps they could have lowered it but when you're cutting costs you're hardly going to hack at ticket prices are you.

seems pretty obvious to me that certain people are finding their own reasons to not support the club. I feel a bit disillusioned with our own fan base, especially as the whole 'fans are the lifeblood' mantra is seen constantly posted on here and its completely untrue. Maybe its my youthful naivety kicking in but I always thought that was what supporting a team was about.. supporting it! Blind love for something you grew up with, you randomly fell in love with despite the fact it does nothing but ruin your weekend and increase your risk of heart disease.

Same people who moan about how much of a business football is are the same people who label themselves as a customer. Im not a fucking customer of STFC and Ill never consider myself that.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:40:58
Its not really the current lots pricing is it?

Er, yes it is.

And had we gone up then it would have been a great price for championship football.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:18:34
Charge high prices you get high expectations.
and cover one of the bigger wage bills in the division still, which is what we have even after the cuts.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:20:52
We need a manager in place. No-one ever won anything without a manager.

If our plan for this season is to survive, rather than compete, then tell us now Jed. Then I can stay at home, and save my cash.

Oooh, I know the answer to the question (yes I know there wasn't one) - Chelsea with Di Matteo who was in temporary charge when they won the Champions League.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:22:48
Oooh, I know the answer to the question (yes I know there wasn't one) - Chelsea with Di Matteo who was in temporary charge when they won the Champions League.

Rafa Benitez was interim at Chelsea for Europa win too :)


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:28:10
Hmm, the signs are clear, forget about appointing proper Managers.  I once took charge of the New College 3rd team when one of the lecturers was off ill.  After some drubbings we won two and drew one, granted one of those wins was against Swindon Town Ladies youngsters and I scored their only goal after getting a little bored at centre half.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: leefer on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:38:07
Hmm, the signs are clear, forget about appointing proper Managers.  I once took charge of the New College 3rd team when one of the lecturers was off ill.  After some drubbings we won two and drew one, granted one of those wins was against Swindon Town Ladies youngsters and I scored their only goal after getting a little bored at centre half.

Brilliant.
Reminds me of the time i watched my son Ian play a game when he was young,the ref didn't turn up so i was asked to deputise.
Thing is after 40 mins my sons team were losing 11-0 when a long punt up field found my son stood on the goal line about 40 yards offside and he stroked the ball home.

The ref not only allowed the goal to stand but to the disgust of the dozen or so watching the ref then proceeded to lift the player high in the air and celebrate the goal wildly.
The final score was 22-1.....and the ref never reffed again.



Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:40:14
Interesting, I had an abysmal record when managing a 6 a side team for the next couple of years, although this was in an official capacity, further supporting the case for 8 game stretches in charge.  Once we get to 40, whoever had the best record gets the final 6.


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: nochee on Monday, July 29, 2013, 21:45:19
Brilliant.
Reminds me of the time i watched my son Ian play a game when he was young,the ref didn't turn up so i was asked to deputise.
Thing is after 40 mins my sons team were losing 11-0 when a long punt up field found my son stood on the goal line about 40 yards offside and he stroked the ball home.

The ref not only allowed the goal to stand but to the disgust of the dozen or so watching the ref then proceeded to lift the player high in the air and celebrate the goal wildly.
The final score was 22-1.....and the ref never reffed again.


Love that!


Title: Re: Adver News: SWINDON TOWN: McCrory will 'take time' to find right manager
Post by: RedRag on Monday, July 29, 2013, 22:10:04
Maybe its my youthful naivety kicking in but I always thought that was what supporting a team was about.. supporting it! Blind love for something you grew up with, you randomly fell in love with despite the fact it does nothing but ruin your weekend and increase your risk of heart disease.  Same people who moan about how much of a business football is are the same people who label themselves as a customer. Im not a fucking customer of STFC and Ill never consider myself that.

and may the passion never die....however objectively stupid it is and regardless of my comments that is exactly how I still feel

Hats off to the positive ones who actually contribute to the STFC Trust.  They are the true doers, even if some of us bemoan the lack of activism.

Occasionally a board behave as trustees or custodians rather than as shareholders and directors but it most cases that role is left to the fans.  If the best some fans can do is roundly abuse and denigrate and keep a board on its toes then that can be valuable in appropriate cases in keeping questions alive.

It was instructive to read about Man City's new "fan relations" director slip the word "monetize" when talking about the fan base.  City garners incredibly detailed information about the fanbase's spending habits to max out the financial return on each type of fan, ie getting a better return from each fan based on what you know they can afford and how they behave etc.  If we don't want to be customers, we have to question.

Let's not fall into the trap of thinking that fans and the board share the same passion and the same values.  Jed's and LP's problem is that they have yet to communicate why they're here at all.  Is it because they don't have a plan or because we would not like it or because they are so called "poor communicators"? 

The debate runs.  We are Tottenh Swindon.