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Title: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: News Monkey on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 06:00:09
Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
           
           



  SEASON ticket sales for Swindon Town’s 2013/14 League One campaign are approaching 5,000 according to general manager Steve Murrall.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10502138.Season_ticket_sales_up_10_per_cent/?ref=rss
           
           
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 09:27:46
Interest free instalment payments look to have been successful. One of the reasons I never bought a ST before moving was due to never having enough money to pay up front and unwillingly to part with extra money to cover the instalments. I guess I'm not alone in that...


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 09:32:57
Still no mention of the £25 matchday ticket price which was previously justified by us spending to build a quality product - a team going for promotion.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 09:36:18
Why is the Adver's stock photo of Murrall so sinister looking?


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: phelpsieboy on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 09:44:25
Why is the Adver's stock photo of Murrall so sinister looking?
Because they're trying to kill the club obviously.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 09:48:32
Interest free instalment payments look to have been successful. One of the reasons I never bought a ST before moving was due to never having enough money to pay up front and unwillingly to part with extra money to cover the instalments. I guess I'm not alone in that...

How is paying more over monthly instalments interest free?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 10:45:58
How is paying more over monthly instalments interest free?  :sherlock:

He meant its free this season compared to previous seasons.

Early bird offer this season - no interest, no admin fee.
Early bird offer last season - no interest, admin fee.
Presvious offers - interest, no admin fee.



Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 10:52:49
Why is the Adver's stock photo of Murrall so sinister looking?

That's the least sinister looking photo they have.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 12:25:59
Still no mention of the £25 matchday ticket price which was previously justified by us spending to build a quality product - a team going for promotion.


You're a fucking idiot.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 12:55:59
You're a fucking idiot.

He may well be on most things but I actually want to hear the justification if the prices remain £25. It is very very top end for league 1. Has it been confirmed that it isn't changing?


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 12:58:05
He may well be on most things but I actually want to hear the justification if the prices remain £25. It is very very top end for league 1. Has it been confirmed that it isn't changing?
The matchday ticket prices are announced with season ticket prices.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 13:02:54
The matchday ticket prices are announced with season ticket prices.

Just had to check I must have missed this and has probably been discussed already so il leave it. Very over priced though


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: DV on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 13:06:27
Just had to check I must have missed this and has probably been discussed already so il leave it. Very over priced though

Which is probably one of the reasons why season ticket sales are up, as they are quite well priced.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: random_five on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 13:18:19
You're a fucking idiot.

He might well be most of the time but he's got a fair point this time, in my opinion


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 16:33:16
You're a fucking idiot.
Brilliant post.

I would like to know what you disagree with? If you can string a sentence together that is.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 16:44:01
Brilliant post.

I would like to know what you disagree with? If you can string a sentence together that is.

I suspect he doesn't specifically disagree with anything,  think it's more of a general observation to be honest.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 19:11:12
Let's face it, there is plenty of fuel to feed that observation.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 19:16:44
I'm still waiting to see if Si Pi can string a sentence together  ;)


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 00:44:01
I'm still waiting to see if Si Pi can string a sentence together  ;)
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Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 09:26:54
Didn't know you're welsh


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:07:32
Brilliant post.

I would like to know what you disagree with? If you can string a sentence together that is.

Why do they have to justify it? Would their justification change someone's decision to attend or stay at home?

If prices were dropped to match the quality of the product, they should probably charge a tenner at most or £15 for a promotion chasing team. We've known for years that football is horribly overpriced.

Multiple sentences, do I win?


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:24:14
If ticket prices were reduced, would people be happy with the budget being reduced along with them?


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: DV on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:34:24
Surely the point of reducing prices would be to entice more customers in and make more money...


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:36:10
Would the extra customers make up the difference though?



Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: DV on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:46:16
Well, who knows but that would be why they drop the prices to make more money...


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:00:06
Well yeah but if not even people buy up tickets to make the difference then they could lose money by dropping the prices but then that's just stating the bleeding obvious.



Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Boy About Town on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:02:26
You're a fucking idiot.

Doesn't half look as much of one as what you do. Pathetic response.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: DV on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:09:25
Well yeah but if not even people buy up tickets to make the difference then they could lose money by dropping the prices but then that's just stating the bleeding obvious.



I'm sure when these decision are made there is alot of science and maths behind it, we'll you'd hope so anyway...


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:11:51
I'm sure when these decision are made there is alot of science and maths behind it, we'll you'd hope so anyway...

Indeed. One would hope they've done their homework.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 13:05:55
That'll be your price elasticity then, won't it?


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 13:18:37
What did we have last season, 3.5/4k season tickets? If they are paying roughly £13 (read that figure somewhere) a match, every match, and our average attendance is, say, 7k, then you've got another 3.5/3k paying £25. (Yes I know there are special offers, Junior Reds etc., but let's keep this simple for a moment). If we take the higher figure for season tickets, that gives you rough estimate of £127k for each home game.

If you reduced tickets to £15, and that, say, enticed another 500 people to come, you're looking at something more like £104.5k. Not to mention that it de-incentivises people from buying season ticket - if you can get in to every match for only a couple of quid more than having a season ticket would allow you to, then quite a few would not bother.

Don't take this as gospel, I'm using basic figures to prove a point - from a financial standpoint, you'd have to attract a couple of thousand extra punters to make a price drop worthwhile, and you'd alienate season ticket holders too.

Plus if more people come, the pies will run out even quicker...


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 13:21:21
Indeed. One would hope they've done their homework.

Presumably, as they have pretty much kept the prices that were set by the previous board.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 13:23:50
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I went there once, lovely place in West Wales, very scenic, and some great pubs to boot


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 15:35:48
What did we have last season, 3.5/4k season tickets? If they are paying roughly £13 (read that figure somewhere) a match, every match, and our average attendance is, say, 7k, then you've got another 3.5/3k paying £25. (Yes I know there are special offers, Junior Reds etc., but let's keep this simple for a moment). If we take the higher figure for season tickets, that gives you rough estimate of £127k for each home game.

If you reduced tickets to £15, and that, say, enticed another 500 people to come, you're looking at something more like £104.5k. Not to mention that it de-incentivises people from buying season ticket - if you can get in to every match for only a couple of quid more than having a season ticket would allow you to, then quite a few would not bother.

Don't take this as gospel, I'm using basic figures to prove a point - from a financial standpoint, you'd have to attract a couple of thousand extra punters to make a price drop worthwhile, and you'd alienate season ticket holders too.

Plus if more people come, the pies will run out even quicker...

The gap between season ticket and matchday prices is too big. Of course the season tickets are great value but it's to the detriment of non season ticket holders. £25 quid for league 1 is not good value


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: leefer on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 15:37:25
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Murder trying to Google that place.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 15:42:24
Murder trying to Google that place.

Double click to highlight --> right click --> search google for:........



Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: leefer on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 15:45:37
 
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Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 15:54:48
I believe we had just under 5,000 season (4800ish?) tickets last season and a press release a few weeks back said we were "approaching 5,000" So I guess a 10% increase must see us in the 5,300 range now.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: DRS on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 16:29:44
What did we have last season, 3.5/4k season tickets? If they are paying roughly £13 (read that figure somewhere) a match, every match, and our average attendance is, say, 7k, then you've got another 3.5/3k paying £25. (Yes I know there are special offers, Junior Reds etc., but let's keep this simple for a moment). If we take the higher figure for season tickets, that gives you rough estimate of £127k for each home game.

If you reduced tickets to £15, and that, say, enticed another 500 people to come, you're looking at something more like £104.5k. Not to mention that it de-incentivises people from buying season ticket - if you can get in to every match for only a couple of quid more than having a season ticket would allow you to, then quite a few would not bother.

Don't take this as gospel, I'm using basic figures to prove a point - from a financial standpoint, you'd have to attract a couple of thousand extra punters to make a price drop worthwhile, and you'd alienate season ticket holders too.

Plus if more people come, the pies will run out even quicker...
Never that simple is it though


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 18:39:43
What did we have last season, 3.5/4k season tickets? If they are paying roughly £13 (read that figure somewhere) a match, every match, and our average attendance is, say, 7k, then you've got another 3.5/3k paying £25. (Yes I know there are special offers, Junior Reds etc., but let's keep this simple for a moment). If we take the higher figure for season tickets, that gives you rough estimate of £127k for each home game.

If you reduced tickets to £15, and that, say, enticed another 500 people to come, you're looking at something more like £104.5k. Not to mention that it de-incentivises people from buying season ticket - if you can get in to every match for only a couple of quid more than having a season ticket would allow you to, then quite a few would not bother.

Don't take this as gospel, I'm using basic figures to prove a point - from a financial standpoint, you'd have to attract a couple of thousand extra punters to make a price drop worthwhile, and you'd alienate season ticket holders too.

Plus if more people come, the pies will run out even quicker...

Poor example as I doubt you find any league 1 with match day tickets at £15. I'm guessing we are the most expensive in the league? That is the problem I have. Il still pay but I imagine its puts off a lot of people and you can see from away fan turnout what they think


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 18:47:46
Not just the price that puts away fans off
Arkells isnt best of facilities and nor is the bank

I know a few at work that wont go as is £25 a go
Of course nothing to say they would if price dropped either as apart from the DR the ground isnt exactly tempting or pleasing to the eye
And if our home form is poor ( dipped massively after January )  its hardly a recipe for getting extra bums on seats


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 18:58:26
Not just the price that puts away fans off
Arkells isnt best of facilities and nor is the bank

I know a few at work that wont go as is £25 a go
Of course nothing to say they would if price dropped either as apart from the DR the ground isnt exactly tempting or pleasing to the eye
And if our home form is poor ( dipped massively after January )  its hardly a recipe for getting extra bums on seats


What's wrong with the arkells as an away stand? Unless you get high numbers the atmosphere doesn't hold but apart from that can't seem the problem. You look on any away forum before they play us and the reason is down to a £25 ticket after travel expenses.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: dagrumpymunki on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 18:59:25
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397

We don't really look out of line with a lot of the other clubs in League 1 to me.

I don't think we'll be the most expensive club in the league, and we won't be the cheapest.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 19:11:29
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397

We don't really look out of line with a lot of the other clubs in League 1 to me.

I don't think we'll be the most expensive club in the league, and we won't be the cheapest.


I can't recall ever paying more than £25 away last season. Then again I'm usually hammered so could well be wrong.


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 19:37:03
What's wrong with the arkells as an away stand? Unless you get high numbers the atmosphere doesn't hold but apart from that can't seem the problem. You look on any away forum before they play us and the reason is down to a £25 ticket after travel expenses.

Seen more than a few away posts about stewards ignoring home fan abuse, uncomfortable seating, no leg room etc
No home atmosphere in arkells either

Long time since I have been in the Arkells so have no idea how true


Title: Re: Adver News: Season ticket sales up 10 per cent
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, June 23, 2013, 20:51:43
Never that simple is it though

No. Hence why I said it wasn't -

I'm using basic figures to prove a point

Poor example as I doubt you find any league 1 with match day tickets at £15. I'm guessing we are the most expensive in the league?

I wasn't using a specific example, £15/20 were just the numbers being floated about earlier. £5/10 is the kind of price drop that people would see as making a difference. Using the price of football survey from 2012 ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397), the cheapest matchday ticket in League 1 was £10 at Sheffield Utd. (Tranmere and Donny had £14.50 and £15 as their cheapest incidentally- so you can pay £15 to watch L1 Football, and good L1 football at that, seeing as how they were both top of the league for a while), and most expensive was £26 at Sheffield Utd., Colchester, and Bournemouth.

Our cheapest matchday ticket was £19 last season, our most expensive £25. We're on the expensive side of average for L1 if you look at the tables, but it's only a couple of quid really between us and the cheapest/most expensive teams.

There are tons of arguments about value for money that can be made, but the fact is we're not the most expensive team to watch.