Title: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Matt71 on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 11:14:03 The commentators are talking as if this was dicanios first managers job,also about 15 close ups of him, is Pardrew even there?
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 11:22:10 Not a suprise,everyone knows there is no football below the premiership and none took place before 1992
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: DV on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:35:30 Adam Johnson cuts in from the right and puts a beaut in the top corner. Then Di Canio slides on his knees.
Memories :( Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:37:10 Cracking game.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Spud on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:37:31 From Paolo Di Canio to a cloned version of Malpas.
God, I hate Football at times! Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:38:56 Cisse's goal was never offside.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:39:44 I'm absolutely buzzing (with Sunderland being my second team) but also a sense of sadness at what we're missing here right now...whilst I'm still peeved at the way Paolo left, you can't deny the passion that man had and installed, something that has gone amiss here!
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Spud on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:40:32 Cisse's goal was never offside. But then Sunderland should have had a stone wall penalty in the first half after Graham's shirt was pulled by Taylor. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:41:36 Adam Johnson cuts in from the right and puts a beaut in the top corner. Like a certain Matt Ritchie used to do. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:41:42 But then Sunderland should have had a stone wall penalty in the first half after Graham's shirt was pulled by Taylor. ah right, didn't see the first halfTitle: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: mystical_goat on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:42:26 I'd like to see Di Canio managing Mario Balotelli at his next club after Sunderland.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Spud on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:42:48 What a hit!!
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:43:08 Get in!!!!
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: STFCforeigner on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:45:36 God I miss that passion
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:46:12 Crazy to think that some of our fans were glad to see the back of him.
Muppets. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 12:46:32 God I miss that passion I'm sure MacDonald will probably celebrate just as much as Di Canio whenever we finally manage to score again :)Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:00:54 I know we would like someone else with his passion, the problem is that there isn't anyone else like him.
You could see it in the players, they would run through brick walls for him. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:01:16 What's the busiest sunderland forum? Bet they are buzzing now. Wanna read their stuff.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Benzel on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:01:35 That was tough to watch.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Benzel on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:01:48 What's the busiest sunderland forum? Bet they are buzzing now. Wanna read their stuff. It's called RTG or something like that. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: STFCforeigner on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:02:02 I'm sure MacDonald will probably celebrate just as much as Di Canio whenever we finally manage to score again :) I really like your optimism sonic :) Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:04:38 The way Sky are speaking PdC has never celebrated a goal before.
If they want to see a proper celeb, see Northampton away... Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:07:47 We could have an emotionless manager for all I care as long as we get results.
Di Canio has gone, he's moved on (hopefully) so it's probably best that we all try and do the same. Every time Sunderland play, we're going to get this outcry of bemoaning mixed with the conspiracy theories. He's is clearly a great manager. The party ended and he left. MacDonald will forever be 'the man who had to replace Di Canio'. Perhaps it would have been more sensible to have brought in an interim and then appointed a full-time boss (MacDonald) in the summer? It's all done now. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: BruceChatwin on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:19:59 You can already see the same distinctive tactics and discipline he stamped on Swindon in the shape and commitment of the Sunderland team.
Did get a bit lucky though with 3 absolute pearlers flying into the corners. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Peter Gibbons on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:34:59 Just went outside for a smoke and there were half a dozen mackems out there, who looked old enough to know better, practicing their "PDC knee-slides"
I live about 100 miles from Sunderland. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: BruceChatwin on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:40:53 From before the game.
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=774112 (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=774112) Quote Originally Posted by damok666 I've dreamt the 3 -0 win twice this week - and both times Johnson has scored hitting them on the break, cutting into the box from the right wing. Anyway I've put an account rounding £6.67 on Johnson Anytime / Sunderland 3-0 @ 85/1. What can go wrong? Must be the world's happiest man around now. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: DV on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 13:51:36 Beats my 2 on them to win at 5/1
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Bewster on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 14:34:17 Crazy to think that some of our fans were glad to see the back of him. Muppets. Not exactly, people didn't like the way he left - that is all. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: STFCforeigner on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 14:58:22 From before the game. http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=774112 (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=774112) Must be the world's happiest man around now. Wow. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 15:08:20 We could have an emotionless manager for all I care as long as we get results. Di Canio has gone, he's moved on (hopefully) so it's probably best that we all try and do the same. Every time Sunderland play, we're going to get this outcry of bemoaning mixed with the conspiracy theories. He's is clearly a great manager. The party ended and he left. MacDonald will forever be 'the man who had to replace Di Canio'. Perhaps it would have been more sensible to have brought in an interim and then appointed a full-time boss (MacDonald) in the summer? It's all done now. Good post and totally agree. However our current situation is making it quite difficult to move on and stop saying 'if only'. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 15:45:18 However our current situation is making it quite difficult to move on and stop saying 'if only'. Alas, of course it won't. We're were really pushing for automatic promotion under Di Canio and pretty much all of us believe that it could/would have happened - 'if only' indeed. What has frustrated me the most post-PDC is that the fans who have to backed his actions to the hilt largely fail to realise why other/many Town fans accepted his departure quicker than others. It has nothing to do with his win ratio or managerial ability in general. It's because he was part of a business model that was on the fast track to killing the club. Funny thing is that after all is said and done, promotion is still a possibility! It's not going to happen but it's still there. Fair play to Di Canio's work today, he got it absolutely spot on... and in a derby too. DRS stated on Twitter that Di Canio's win today will have done Swindon Town no favours and he's absolutely right. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: leefer on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 15:59:05 Passion,commitment.......a great result.....everything missing from yesterdays debacle.
After watching that horror show yesterday Paolo and his antics today made me realise why i loved him so much. Sunderland have a gem there as a manager....politics aside. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:01:37 It's because he was part of a business model that was on the fast track to killing the club. But was it? Unsustainable without question. Absolutely spot on the wage cap issue should never have happened, Wray/Watkins messed that one up. And Black says he never bought into a 3 year plan. But I have yet to see where we were overspending according to Black's agreed budget. As long as we did this, and as long as Black was around, we weren't going bust. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:08:14 But I have yet to see where we were overspending according to Black's agreed budget. As long as we did this, and as long as Black was around, we weren't going bust. If Black failed to buy in to a 'plan' then he was always prone to pulling the plug like he did. Hindsight points towards a bit more caution in that respect. The club were not cautious and therefore prone to putting the club in serious threat of going out of business. ...and for all we know, we still are as a result of it. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:11:07 But if someone says they will fund the season, then don't fund the season it will happen. If you think we should be self sufficient fair enough.
I read your post as blaming PDC spending the money he was told he could spend. I don't think that's fair myself. I don't think there are money clubs around that couldn't be in the position now. City, Oxford, Bournemouth, most. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:19:40 Having defended him on that, he can go fuck himself on this
" @BBCSport: Sunderland manager Paolo Di Canio said his side's win over Newcastle was the pinnacle of his managerial career #safc" Though really its just a 'tell 'em what the want to hear' moment that he's good at. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:20:58 But if someone says they will fund the season, then don't fund the season it will happen. If you think we should be self sufficient fair enough. I read your post as blaming PDC spending the money he was told he could spend. I don't think that's fair myself. I don't think there are money clubs around that couldn't be in the position now. City, Oxford, Bournemouth, most. No I'm not blaming Di Canio and tried/failed to put emphasis on that. When I included PDC's name within my original post I was referring to Di Canio as being a part of Wray's vision (I could be referring to any high profile name). Once they all went then PDC was never going to remain. It was never going to be about McCrory or anyone convincing PDC to stay, the guy was gone. PDC's crime, in my opinion, was walking out when he did and insisting on kicking players out near enough on a whim. The board hopefully at least tried to prevent it. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Bewster on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:23:34 I really hoped he'd fall flat on his face and take them down this season - but based on today he isn't and with the players he has and the work rate he demands plus a few additions they'll do well next season.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: ghanimah on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:25:46 Having defended him on that, he can go fuck himself on this " @BBCSport: Sunderland manager Paolo Di Canio said his side's win over Newcastle was the pinnacle of his managerial career #safc" Though really its just a 'tell 'em what the want to hear' moment that he's good at. Indeed...though not defensible it explains in large part his "roman salute" - anything to appear loyal to whatever fans he's supposedly pledging allegiance to. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:27:34 Has he promised to get a Sunderland tattoo yet?
Title: Re: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:32:03 Di Canio's loyalty extends no further than himself. He's a megalomaniac who has always struggled with authority, but demands unwavering allegiance to himself.
I would still like him as our manager, but he's outgrown us and, if successful there, he'll outgrow Sunderland too. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 17:38:18 No I'm not blaming Di Canio and tried/failed to put emphasis on that. When I included PDC's name within my original post I was referring to Di Canio as being a part of Wray's vision (I could be referring to any high profile name). But even so, did Wray spend more than he was told he could - other than cocking up the wage budget ? Or put another way I think Black rather than Wray has (probably) left the club in a good state in terms of debt but stitched us up by leaving in the manner and at the time he did. And I'd hold him responsible if the Jedortium really do turn out to be the trotters. Quote from: Herthab Di Canio's loyalty extends no further than himself. Agree with that. Though I think that describes every manager to manage Swindon in recent times and every manager that will manage Swindon in the future. Cheery thought. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Dostoyevsky on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:23:17 Lot of trouble post-match
http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/63543/violent-disorder-by-newcastle-united-fans-in-city-centre-after Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:25:32 Lot of trouble post-match http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/63543/violent-disorder-by-newcastle-united-fans-in-city-centre-after Someone will probably blame di Canio.... Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Dostoyevsky on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:26:57 http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/video/63489/sunderland-fans-scuffle-with-police-as-they-arrive-for-tyne
Title: Re: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:28:46 Di Canio's loyalty extends no further than himself. He's a megalomaniac who has always struggled with authority, but demands unwavering allegiance to himself. good post. I would still like him as our manager, but he's outgrown us and, if successful there, he'll outgrow Sunderland too. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Mother Brown on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:33:16 Lot of trouble post-match http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/63543/violent-disorder-by-newcastle-united-fans-in-city-centre-after Scary. . they even torched the recycling bin :girlgiggle: Title: Re: Re: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:36:59 Agree with that. Though I think that describes every manager to manage Swindon in recent times and every manager that will manage Swindon in the future. Cheery thought. You're right. Although no other Swindon manager in recent times has put such an emphasis on loyalty. I think what really fucks me off is the fact that, for all his faults, we were so good when he was here. And now he's gone.Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:41:16 You're right. Although no other Swindon manager in recent times has put such an emphasis on loyalty. I think what really fucks me off is the fact that, for all his faults, we were so good when he was here. And now he's gone. Actually Sturrock had a good go at playing the loyalty card, not as hypocritical as Paolo though. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: ghanimah on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 18:46:41 http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/video/63489/sunderland-fans-scuffle-with-police-as-they-arrive-for-tyne Looks a lot of fuss about nothing tbh Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: BruceChatwin on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 20:33:43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SHuGha_bTo
Another grown man plumbing new depths of human stupidity. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 20:42:48 I know it's not really funny but I still had to laugh. Punching a horse :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Can't help but think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cDfnQD0ws Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: woolster on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 21:55:09 Just watched MOTD, the di Canio circus was in full swing :cry:
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 22:30:27 Does this ring any bells ?
The Sunderland fans fucking love him......... Is anybody missing him ? Some people were actually glad he left Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: DV on Sunday, April 14, 2013, 22:30:52 as soon I saw Bruces post I laughed and loaded up youtube to find that clip from Blazing Saddles. I should have read the next post first....
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 15, 2013, 12:20:46 Loved the passion and even the odious Mail Online wants to lap it up - its fascism qualms forgotten for now
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2308871/Paolo-Di-Canio-watch-Newcastle-v-Sunderland--live.html I have to say I don't subscribe to the "PDC disloyalty" opinions prevalent. Many seem based on Jed's and AB's reported views, supported by "in the know" comments that no one liked PDC. Even "out of the know", I sense that Patey didn't! The financial basis for STFC's Championship plan was abruptly abandoned by STFC itself and then on top of that PDC was (imo) humiliated over the manner of the sale of Ritchie (not the fact of it). Loyalty surely cuts two ways. I have every belief that, rather than grabbing Premiership glory, PDC would still be here if this year's agreed budget funding had remained in place throghout. I reallly don't get why a young manager with Premiership ambitions should be expected to hang around with a financially struggling League One club with no apparent plan. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: adje on Monday, April 15, 2013, 12:25:10 The Sunderland fans fucking love him......... apart from the ex-miners Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Monday, April 15, 2013, 13:11:29 How much longer did PDC's contract have to run?
If he had walked out in us and into the Sunderland job, how much compensation would we have been due? He is a smart cookie, do you think his threats to sue us were just that, a threat to stop us from remembering that we could be due compensation if he walked into another job fairly soon after? Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 15, 2013, 13:26:48 I think I read that his contract was renewed and remuneration increased before the start of this season, either to the end of next or possibly for a further year, so he's left 1.5 - 2.5 seasons early
As ever, who knows what really happened but PDC would, imo, likely have had a claim for constructive dismissal v STFC and STFC would have had a claim v PDC for walking out on his contract. Any claim made by either PDC or STFC would likely have been denied and met with a counterclaim by the other side. It would not be in PDC's interests to claim now as he is unlikely to have suffered any loss if constructively dismissed and it would not enhance his employability. Wouldn't expect STFC to have a great case, so we can "move on" I'm sure. Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 15, 2013, 13:31:09 Di Canio is in nearly all of the national papers over here today...
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffotball.aftenposten.no%2Fengland%2Farticle276122.ece http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2F2013%2F04%2F14%2Fsport%2Ffotball%2Fsunderland%2Fnewcastle%2Fpaolo_di_canio%2F26660224%2F http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fsport%2Ffotball%2Fengelsk%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10109224 Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, April 15, 2013, 13:37:44 To be fair to the bloke who punched the horse, he probably thought it was a geordie bird, and was trying to rescue her from the policeman straddling her. Drink made his aim a bit off.
Title: Re: Newcastle v sunderland Post by: BruceChatwin on Monday, April 15, 2013, 13:44:16 Or he just got his derbies mixed up.
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