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Title: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 08:00:25
No idea what their agenda is, but surely if they continue like this it can only end badly for them?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 08:01:29
Bomb the bastards!!!!


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 08:53:26
They're trying to extract concessions (dropped sanctions, aid etc) through military provocation. It can't be seen to work, and is only currently holding because China publicly support them. The Chinese are very clearly going off them fast though, so I think young Kim might be wise to row back a little.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Amir on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 09:07:25
The Americans should nuke themselves a little bit to show the North Koreans how hard they are. 


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 09:28:52
 Send in Sir Wiliam Patey...he sorted out di Canio, so Kim Jong Un should be a doddle.

PS some of us were around during the last Korean War...if it hadn't been for M*A*S*H, think it would have been largely forgotten.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 09:32:22
The usual twaddle we've seen many times before, the only concern I guess is that the inexperience of fat boy Kim means he backs himself into a corner without a face-saving exit.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 09:32:54
Send in Sir Wiliam Patey...he sorted out di Canio, so Kim Jong Un should be a doddle.

PS some of us were around during the last Korean War...if it hadn't been for M*A*S*H, think it would have been largely forgotten.

M*A*S*H, and Basil Fawlty's "bit of schrapnel".


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 09:40:23
They're trying to extract concessions (dropped sanctions, aid etc) through military provocation. It can't be seen to work, and is only currently holding because China publicly support them. The Chinese are very clearly going off them fast though, so I think young Kim might be wise to row back a little.

I highly doubt Kim has very much to do with any of their actions, other than being a figurehead. Someone educated in Switzerland must surely know how badly this will end for Best Korea?


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 10:27:54
Kim Jong Un is such a little puppet I'm surprised you can't see the strings. His generals have him jerking around like nobody's business. I don't think he's happy about this, and is attempting to look impressive in front of his people. It stinks of a medieval prince attempting to show his barons he is not to be messed with, it really does.

It's all bluff and bluster to try and get sanctions dropped, raise tension in the region, and show off to his people. The musudan rocket they've reportedly moved to the coast is a fantastic case in point. If you were really serious, you wouldn't mobilise one rocket. Least of all one that doesn't even have the range to hit American bases in Guam- and an attack on Japan would just bring NATO/the UN down on them like a ton of bricks.

It's all about domestic problems, very little to do with the outside world. I mean, the North would like very much to invade the South, but as China would condemn such an action, the South Korean army is in an extremely high state of readiness and is much better equipped, and the Americans are poised ready to support the South, I doubt very much they're that stupid.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: walcot red on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 10:34:54
If there was Oil in N.Korea we'd have followed the Yanks in there ages ago.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 11:11:28
If there was Oil in N.Korea we'd have followed the Yanks in there ages ago.
When did the Americans go in? I must have missed that.

NK might have a huge military but they have no infrastructure. Unless they're planning on marching to Washington D.C. I'd go so far as to suggest nothing will ever happen ever.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: mystical_goat on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 11:39:54
The Americans should nuke themselves a little bit to show the North Koreans how hard they are. 

Great idea, and I don't think anyone has tried this one yet. A real statement of intent.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Pete on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 12:13:51
I read this and think the US of A will strike first

http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-makes-it-through-another-day-of-resisting-ur,20364/



Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 12:27:26
I read this and think the US of A will strike first

http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-makes-it-through-another-day-of-resisting-ur,20364/



Quick, time is running out. Somebody get Obama to play tic-tac-toe.

[url width=660 height=367]http://anotherplotdevice.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/wargames-1b.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Pete on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 12:51:31
Quick, time is running out. Somebody get Obama to play tic-tac-toe.

[url width=660 height=367]http://anotherplotdevice.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/wargames-1b.jpg[/url]

Or post a flyer through Kim Jong Un's letterbox?

[url width=640 height=480]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/World-wide_delivery_in_30_minutes_or_less.JPG/640px-World-wide_delivery_in_30_minutes_or_less.JPG[/url]


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:01:04
North Korea can't reach America, I know that, but if they sent all their nuclear missiles to explode half way across the pacific, would that create a massive radioactive tsunami?


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:43:56
Quick, time is running out. Somebody get Obama to play tic-tac-toe.

[url width=660 height=367]http://anotherplotdevice.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/wargames-1b.jpg[/url]

What a strange game...


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:46:23
Whilst I appreciate the seriousness of the situation, am I the only one that bursts out laughing every time they show clips from the news channels in North Korea? People crying when they see Lil Kim. Soldiers marching in a style copied from the Ministry of Silly Walks. The stern and proud newsreaders. And so on.

Crazy shit.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: 4D on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:48:21
What's that film? Team america? Something like that...


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:49:18
What's that film? Team america? Something like that...

Wargames


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:50:19
What's that film? Team america? Something like that...

Ace film. The bit where they total the Eiffel Tower sums up American diplomacy for me.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: 4D on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 13:51:55
Wargames

Sorry, I meant the puppet one, not referring to the batchster's post.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 14:03:03
Whilst I appreciate the seriousness of the situation, am I the only one that bursts out laughing every time they show clips from the news channels in North Korea? People crying when they see Lil Kim. Soldiers marching in a style copied from the Ministry of Silly Walks. The stern and proud newsreaders. And so on.

Crazy shit.

There's a full documentary about it on YouTube somewhere. They're fucking potty.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: tans on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 15:02:54
Ace film. The bit where they total the Eiffel Tower sums up American diplomacy for me.

The shaggings the funniest bit.

Puppet porn


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 15:09:52
Poor Kim Jong Un, he's just so ronery.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: fatbasher on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 16:30:53
There's a full documentary about it on YouTube somewhere. They're fucking potty.

On behalf of the late great Michael Bentine i take exception to that comment  :D


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 18:40:43
I think this is the propoganda video you mean. Haven't got around to watching it yet as it's quite long.

http://laughingsquid.com/propaganda-a-mysterious-anti-western-film-allegedly-by-north-korea/

A group called "Anonymous" has hacked a North Korean government website in the last few hours:

http://kotaku.com/north-korean-propaganda-website-hacked-apparently-by-a-469671862


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 19:25:02
Is the title of the post a suggestion that Andrew Lloyd Webber is behind this?


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, April 4, 2013, 19:38:24
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Dream_Will_Do_(TV_series)


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Levi lapper on Friday, April 5, 2013, 07:55:24
I think we should send special forces in, get them to  put huge amounts of MDMA in the water supply.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, April 5, 2013, 11:39:28
I think we should send special forces in, get them to  put huge amounts of MDMA in the water supply.

What, like in The men who stare at goats?


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, April 5, 2013, 12:18:56
North Korea can't reach America, I know that, but if they sent all their nuclear missiles to explode half way across the pacific, would that create a massive radioactive tsunami?

Fucking hell, don't give them ideas. I wager that the North Korean government are monitoring this forum as we speak......


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, April 5, 2013, 13:57:15
Drop the C-Bomb, that'll show them! Cunts!


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, April 5, 2013, 14:00:49
Get Kim Jong-Un laid?


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, April 5, 2013, 14:59:32
North Korea can't reach America, I know that, but if they sent all their nuclear missiles to explode half way across the pacific, would that create a massive radioactive tsunami?

Apparently they've got no more than 6 nuclear warheads but no reliable missile delivery system.

So I think we're safe.


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, April 5, 2013, 15:42:21
Apparently they've got no more than 6 nuclear warheads but no reliable missile delivery system.

So I think we're safe.

Yep. They're essentially using mid/late soviet-era technology in their launchers, except produced/maintained in a country with little to no industrial base/electronic/ballistic missile expertise, and so any missile with a range over 750-1000 miles either has an unacceptable failure rate or hasn't been tested at all yet. Not only that, but by modern standards, the missiles are dead slow, and easy (by modern standards) to intercept as they use a low trajectory, and with the amount of Aegis that's been deployed to the pacific I would be VERY surprised if, even if they did launch, there wouldn't be about 300 interceptor missiles chasing after it within seconds. They're not even multiple warhead...

And 6 is I think a generous number. I remember in my research for my dissertation last year I came across a believable article that says they definitelyhave 3 ex-soviet warheads, and possibly one or two 'home-grown' ones. Can't be arsed to find it now, so I'll just say FACT! and leave it at that.

FACT!


Title: Re: How do you solve a problem like Korea?
Post by: donkey on Friday, April 5, 2013, 18:03:57

FACT!

We'll all be FACT if they sort those issues out, though.