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Maybe Town bought out by the Bin Laden family and turned into the first Islamist football league club? Alcohol banned, hijabs required for all female members of staff, that kind of thing. Still be a supporter then?

the shite that you post makes me want to do that smashing of the head on the keyboard gif thing. Delicious irony, doncha think?

....or alternatively this far more succinct and timely response.....

As has been said before the West Ham Board are a little conservative and predominately Jewish. He's not even going to be thought about there.

Lazio really can't afford to have anything to do with him. He left there under a bit of a cloud last time around as his the board had enough of him because of the controversy over his relationship with the Lazio Ultras, the Nazi saluting and everything.

With that same group of Ultras having just got the club hauled up in front of Uefa for the 4th time in the last year or two for racist chanting, resulting in them having to play a couple of games behind closed doors, I can't see them falling over themselves to bring "the dux" home.

Leeds are probably the only club I can think of that are desperate enough for success, and generally bonkers enough to appoint such a loose cannon.

you hate him. We get it. You're back now he's gone so save us the politics. It's not been mentioned much for ages thankfully.

Oh screw you. Everyone else is allowed to have an opinion on how employable the man is but me eh?

Oh and if you want to adopt this "I don't want to hear about racism or politics" line, you might want to change the avatar because it looks kind of odd coming from Bob.

Ill never get her.

Fuck me, I also come back and spend a bit of time on the TEF for various reasons and then you reappear.

Have you pent up all of your posts over the last eighteen months or something? As for the above, it is verbal diarrhea of the worst kind, even by your twisted standards. When did Di Canio ever mention politics or push any of his opinions apart from those related to football? I have always been of the opinion that he never would bring that to the club, he never did and deserves recognition for that. As for you flouncing off like a spoilt brat (and the rest of you high and mighty 'principled' knob ends) because of his appointment, perhaps you should get some perspective in your life.

Fuck off Lumps.

I won't be back as long as you are posting on here. Not because I disagree with your politics (in fact I think politics is for idiot drones who haven't got the ability to think for themselves) but rather because the shite that you post makes me want to do that smashing of the head on the keyboard gif thing. Delicious irony, doncha think?

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

but you pair of cunts this is a football forum to talk about football .

This user is ignored.

Wow! Has anyone told him about the ignore button?

Maybe Town bought out by the Bin Laden family and turned into the first Islamist football league club? Alcohol banned, hijabs required for all female members of staff, that kind of thing. Still be a supporter then?

my point is we know your opinion. You've banged on about it continually. Your view is totally unbalanced due to your dislike of the bloke from the outset.

While I agree there are more important things in life than football sometimes, that comparison is way ott.

It would only have merit if Di Canio had adorned the CG with pictures of Mussolini, made the players make roman salutes before kick-off, adopted a whites-only policy with regard to players and the fanbase and hadn't managed a team for 18 months that consisted entirely of foreign players.

But that never happened did it...?

I'm not angry. Not even close

I didn't say the two were comparable, I was just trying to point out that the initial argument, "If you're a Swindon fan you should support them always regardless" was flawed.

I was just trying to show that we probably all have a line beyond which we won't go with our support of the club. Mine was the appointment of a fascist, but I can appreciate everyone else doesn't feel the same way. I was just reaching for an example that demonstrated that there were things that might turn any of us away from the club.

And Hitler was half Jewish, he was an illegitimate product of his mother's liason with a member of the Rothschild's family. true, but you will never hear that mentioned.

Fair enough...I understand...and you're right. Certainly if Paolo had done any of things I outlined earlier then that would've been a line for me and I suspect many others as well.

People confuse a belief of certain fascist ideolgies with anti-semitism and racism.
 
Di Canio is no racist, just have a look at his close friends/ people he's in business with.

Easy target.

Lumps, you've mentioned the Jewish roots of the West Ham board a couple of times now. Do you realise that of the 116 original members of the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento, five of them were Jewish? Italian Fascism and anti-semitism are not linked in the same way as Nazism.

You can check the sources on Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism

:hmmm:

In 1933, the London Daily Mirror published a picture of a gravestone in a Jewish cemetery in Bucharest inscribed with some Hebrew characters and the name Adolf Hitler but it is now known tha this Bucharest Hitler could not have been the Nazi leaders grandfather. At the time, though, this picture sufficiently worried Hitler that he had the Nazi law defining Jewishness written to exclude Jesus Christ and himself.

Makes you wonder?

What's your opinion on Stalin, lumps?

Lumps, I couldn't give one iota about politics these days, but maybe, just maybe you should read Alexander Solzhenitsyn's memoirs. The untold suffering that occured as of a result of by largely Jewish camp commanders is eye opening. Not the victims they make themselves to be. We are "Goy" to them, in other words cattle.  

This has to be worth a ban? PLEASE

This thread is fun. Welcome back Lumps. You will see that Paolo wasn't the only loon here while you were gone!

Can you not blacklist IP addresses/MAC addresses?

You can ban an IP using the forum software. I've banned him in at least 4 different incarnations before, people just moan that he was banned and then he creates a new personality, gradually building up sensible posts before unleashing the nuttiness

Why should Dossy be banned? He's harmless enough. Just stick him on ignore if he bothers you

Yes Lumps was right in the specific point he made which I quoted there. There is a line for most of us...a theoretical example being what if Swindon had a 'Franchise' solution imposed on it...?

Why should Dossy be banned? He's harmless enough. Just stick him on ignore if he bothers you

anybody else lost or is it just me ?  ???

we're now having this argument about a man who no longer has anything to do with STFC.

Really?

This is a fucking lazy argument.

Yes PDC has never made any racist statements in public, and we'll ignore the accusations about the some of the things he might or might not have said to black players at Town, because we've no evidence either way.

What we do know is that he chooses to associate himself with people that ARE overtly racist and anti semetic. The ultras he used to race over to and salute at Lazio do carry banners covered in swastikas and and make reference to sending Jews to the ovens. They have just led to the club being prosecuted for their racist chanting for the 4th time in recent years, meaning they're now playing a couple of games behind closed doors.

PDC's never comdemned them. If asked about them he always defends them. On one occassion when he and some other Lazio players met with some holocaust survivors who asked them not to acknowledge fans that repeatedly gave fascist salutes and sang songs about the Italian concentration camps, he still couldn't bring himself to say they wer wrong. His only response was to make a statement about atroticities committed by communist resistance fighters in Italy during the war.

We agree on some things.

I banned him previously when he crossed over into the personal abuse/threats but he seems to have cooled down on those now. I think a forum ban would be the least of his problems to be fair

I respect your views and like debate just think you bang the same drum alot.

 Abuse bans fair enough. Just looks like some want him banned as they don't like the bloke. Does seem to have some issues poor chap

This is like going back to May 2011.

Show me any evidence he's an anti-semite or a racist?

He's not.

I think in this case, it's the outright anti-Semitism. The loony stuff is each to their own I suppose, personally I think it's boring, some seem to like it, fair enough. But there's a line and it's not the first time we've had this anti-Semitic shit from him.

There have been any number of people on here that have posted racist comments in the past though Paul and none of them got banned.

islamophobia

Whereas I am anti-religion.

It was a poor attempt at a joke  :(

I've made mention of people quoting this fucking wikepedia entry elsewhere. For some reason all of the people that reference it seem to ignore the rest of the pages content.

This makes clear that Il Duce regularly indulged in populist anti-semetic rhetoric throughout his political career, and, while there were always different strands of thought in the party, it swung increasingly towards an anti-semeitic position throughout the 30's until they set up the concentration camps in 1940.

Jewish founder members don't really count for much in comparison to that do they?

I take issue with that phrase. It's not a phobia if you know why you don't like it.

This could really do with some punctuation in it, or has Paul D been peddling stuff on here I have missed. (I know he hasn't)

Did you even bother to read my post?

I hope lumps stays and talk talk fucks off.

Lumps, can you get this in your nut? Many of us don't agree with you, we align ourselves in different political persuasions. Is that difficult to comprehend?

He's more Seymour Clinic than paramilitary fascist

I'd sort of guessed that, but his obsessions seem to take in Serbia, violence and extreme right wing politics so ......

Obsession? Having read your posts post exile and pre exile I'm inclined to wonder who is more obsessed, PDC about his politics ( according to you ) or you about PDC. Either way you are boring a lot of people, and those who goad you into reacting/ defending your position are not much better placed. Why don't you expend some energy in getting back that £400 sponsorship from the GMB union, we might need it next season when the anti Scottish element of our support stay away citing the unfair Barnett formula and MacDonalds links with Robert The Bruce.

Seriously mate welcome back but give it a rest. Time to talk football rather than who was better are at torture, persecusion and concentration camp extermination of who ever.

"In light of the recent resignation of Paolo Di Canio, I can only speak for all the loyal and diehard Swindon supporters and say thank you, Paolo.

You have come to Swindon, stamped your authority and heart and soul through the club, bringing with it a family atmosphere, a passion and a heart for winning, which has never been seen before. You are a legend that will live long in Swindon’s memory. You left, I imagine with a heavy heart, but with your pride intact. You should be proud of your achievements at Swindon Town.

The way you have been treated has been despicable. The sale of Matt Richie behind your back was wrong and should have been handled more professionally. Didn’t the club realise that doing this despicable act towards you totally diminished all the good work you had done before? Your hands were tied financially but by selling one of your main staff your management ideals have personally come into question. My view is that Matt Richie should have been sold last season for double the money he left for. By that Swindon Town FC would have been in a much better financial position in February 2013. I’m no mathematician or businessman but it seems like commonsense to me and Paolo Di Canio would still be at the helm of Swindon Town.

Thank you for everything and all the best for the future. To the Swindon board – shame on you all. "

Did you even bother to read my post? Did I say I could prove he was an anti-semite or a racist.

It's a fucking irrelevance to me as I think we can all agree that he is a fascist. That means he believes in rule by strong dictator, in command of a totalitarian state that does not tolerate any form of political dissent, and that's kind of enough for me.

What is provable is that he associates with an overtly racist and anti-semetic political movement, and makes no apology or excuse for it, and I find that more than a bit unsavoury as well.

You allow yourself to be photograhed giving a fascist salute to and running over to embrace a group of fans with swastika tattoos and racist banners and its pretty difficult to complain when people make the assumption that you share those peoples views. If you never publically condemn the things that they do that's even more likely.

Obsession? Having read your posts post exile and pre exile I'm inclined to wonder who is more obsessed, PDC about his politics ( according to you ) or you about PDC. Either way you are boring a lot of people, and those who goad you into reacting/ defending your position are not much better placed. Why don't you expend some energy in getting back that £400 sponsorship from the GMB union, we might need it next season when the anti Scottish element of our support stay away citing the unfair Barnett formula and MacDonalds links with Robert The Bruce.

Seriously mate welcome back but give it a rest. Time to talk football rather than who was better are at torture, persecusion and concentration camp extermination of who ever.

Wasn't it you that wanted people banned from the forum.
You're clearly very tolerant of dissent

That was very good

sme is clearly a very good judge of classic comedy

No he explicitly argued against itExcept, as lumps pointed out, he was talking about resident loon Dostoyevsky not Di Canio

I think you've kind of boomeranged yourself a bit here :)

Oh, the irony...

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