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Di Canio upset by Town statement
           
           


  PAOLO Di Canio has claimed that comments made by Sir William Patey in a statement released by Swindon Town today are "neither an accurate nor complete version of what actually happened".

           

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soapy tit wank

That annoys me.

hes going to be throwing his toys out of the pram for ages to come...

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Jed reckons he was unaware of such a deadline.

Somebody is telling porkies. Either that there has been a serious breakdown in communication somewhere.

If PDC is telling the truth, why did he not try to call them?

They're both gone now. Let them ramble on.

I hope the new lot ignore whatever PDC is going to try and do.

See, it is all Patey's fault :)

Honestly, I think its all a big shame its come to this. I'm pissed off he walked now (rather than the summer), but however we all feel about that right now PDC clearly represented our best chance of promotion.

Fuck off Paolo.

Were upset how you fucked off and left us in the shit.

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Touché

The truth may well come out but it won't reflect well on PDC.

I think this will be looked back on as a good week for the club. Andrew Black has swallowed a loss of £10 million but left a good squad for the new owners. Di Canio has gone along with the unsustainable wage bill that he and his mates had managed to secure - along with his agent who was integral to most of the player deals. Remember Swindon paid £450K in agents fees last season ( http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/82/b7/0,,10794~178050,00.pdf ) which was not much less than the other 23 Div 2 clubs together. Only one other club, Crawley, spent more than £100K and they were over £300K behind Town.

It seems likely that the deadline was consciously allowed to pass, presumably for financial reasons.  If we couldn't afford to keep him then that's good enough for me - no point running the club into the ground for one man.

Shame it has ended like this, he did great things for our club but it's disappointing that he feels the need to say this.

We just need to move on.

This could escalate into a legal battle. Fuck 'em both.

Manager in spending budget shocker. Unless you are claiming conflict of interest or more.

FFS. PDC walked out. He didnt have to, but chose to. Regardless of the circumstances and what happen with Ritchie and whether or not STFC did or didn't contact him or his 'representatives' he didn't have to do it, when he did. So The STFC statement this afternoon is entirely accurate. Why the fuck anyone would want him back now is beyond me. Roll on Saturday.

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Paolo's not going quietly shocker. Sadly was always going to be thus

Because he is good at his job.

I feel an updated edition of 'Paolo Di Canio: The Autobiography' coming on.

And, funnily enough, this chapter has ended exactly the same as all the others did  :hmmm:

I do wish Patey would have kept his fucking mouth shut though.

I hope there is a response on the advertiser website which comes from Patey and just says 'whatever'

Paolo was great, but he's gone now and that's that.

I hope the Adver aren't going to give Paolo a mouthpiece for him to throw mud at the club whenever he fancies, it's not going to achieve anything, it'll just make it more difficult for everyone to move on.

I would, I want the best chance of getting to the Champonship.

Paolo - why did you set a 5pm deadline in the first place? That's why a previously besotted fan base have begun to question your motives and true feelings towards the Club. And by the Club I don't mean the temporary owner who got bored with financing an expensive assault on The Championship that as a non football fan he wasn't that arsed about reaching anyway. Or his hired hand the least diplomatic diplomat ever who clearly rubbed you up the wrong way.

Shame what has been a hugely enjoyable 18 months has to end like this.

Let's just hope all this non stop sniping at each other bollocks doesn't derail things on the pitch.

Losing Ritchie was bad enough but if the likes of Ferry, Sir Wes, McCormack, Williams and Collins get fed up with it all and sod off too then all that hard work you and your team put in is then completely wasted.

Meh, I don't know what to say

IF Di Canio's version is indeed completely accurate, someone has royally fucked up.

Or engineered his exit.

And yes BR, equally PDC could have engineered his own exit.

But what were they supposed to do, the deadline imposed by Paolo had passed, delayed by circumstance beyond their control, so they go back to PdC essentially begging on the off chance he extends, more I think this was all an ego massage for him, perhaps he wanted to play the big saviour I have no idea, but bridges were burnt and its time to move on.

Legends do not leave like this....

Yeah, Di Canio fucked up by putting a deadline on something that was out of everyone's hands.

Seems they called Paolo's bluff. I don't think he actually wanted to resign.. It was just to speed up the process and get some answers. I believe Paolo over Jed anyway. Paolo's an honourable man, Jed is, well, an illiterate David Brentesque small time businessman who wears shit shirts and doesn't wear a tie. Roaaaar.

I'm not sure that he did.

I don't think he wanted to go. I think that he has made it obvious that he hasn't been able to work with Patey. I think that he has made it obvious that he was disappointed that Black had changed his plans. I think that his statement about considering his future said that his position was 'becoming' untenable. Not that it 'was' untenable'. I think that his resignation was meant to say that he couldn't work with Patey and the old board anymore. Jed's Twitter messages showed surprise that PDC had gone. The fact that he, and his team carried on through the Tranmere game shows there was/is some loyalty. The fact that two players have been put in temporarily seems to leave the door open for him and the team to come back.

The only thing that to me suggested strongly that PDC wasn't coming back was the comment from Digby in the Adver article - “It’s a difficult one. For all of what Paolo’s about, and he brought a lot of passion to the club, there were a lot of things from a football point of view I didn’t like, a lot of antics I didn’t like."

I'm finding this morbidly curious!

Di Canio (based on his rants and pre-Swindon stuff) strikes me as the sort of person who would threaten to quit three times a day if he wasn't getting what he wants.

The party ended when Wray left.

Paolo di toys 'n' pram, Paolo di toys 'n' pram, etc.

Possibly a couple of days ago yes, but now it would be beyond a circus...

Equally what about the players, would they want him back. He apparently acted like a complete wanker to McCormack on Saturday, who I assume is well respected in the dressing room and didn't seem too down on Tuesday night. If this had not all kicked off there would have been uproar that he had gone mad and lost the dressing room?

Perhaps that's why he went, knew had lost the players!

He's Italian, standard fare.

This would be the most important thing. Though its academic.


Are you basing that on Morsheads tweets about what happened? I assumed there was a bit more to it than simple "being ill"!

 But do we really know it was out of everyone's hands?

But Black signed off a budget for the season and provided the sort of money that most Div 1 managers could only dream of. That got blown and he had to put his hand in his pocket to clear the embargo. He was then presented with the choice of coughing up again or selling - exit the most saleable asset. Unfair to criticise Black for changing plans.

I don't know there is a recurring theme that he almost seems to get to stage that he felt threatened by his captain and felt the need to belittle or humiliate them to show who was the big man. Don't know if it is the vanity or insecurity of the man but its a funny old trait.

It's almost like he had some fascist ideologies.

Or just a very complex character.

I'm sure I saw somewhere that he was sent home on Friday because he was unwell, and that he was spotted playing golf Friday afternoon.

Could be total bollocks, but at least it would be a better reason that 'He was ill"

He appears to be very Brian Clough-like in his handling/belittling/bollocking of players - and that worked well when he went to Leeds didn't it.

Some managers are like some players - fantastic at one particular club, useless at another.

Graham Westley's style suited little Stevenage but at a big club like Preston it blew up in his face.

We shall never know about PdC's true ability as a manager until he takes over another club

Something i thought about too. Or saw an opportunity to bail out without a massive fall out.

Glad someone else said that.  Fascism thrives on charismatic despotic leaders.  PDC, for all the success on the field, wanted that kind of power in every aspect of the club.  Great football, but totally desctructive to the well-being of the club as a whole.  Ask those who work there.

....and resigning, not turning up for training on the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday before the match.......then renogiating a new deal with a get out clause that the club had no control over before pissing off the day before the game.

Yeah, right.

Absolutely. I spoke to someone at the club and was amazed by what I was told about his demands on non football related staff and the effect this had on them.

Sharing's caring, man.

The quitter's upset. Boo fucking hoo  ::)

What were they, out of interest?

Seems like Black's tweeting some interesting stuff at the mo.

Black on a tweetathon:

OK - well thank you all for your kind words - well some of you anyway.

When I decided to stand alone and support the club it was a disaster scenario - relegated to League 2, facing sure administration...

and with a heavy FL points deduction there would have been a major chance of falling out of the leagues at the end of the season.

The club also had no manager...

I was never there for the long term - I just wanted to restore some respectability.

Today we sit at the top of league 1, again with no manager. As far as I'm concerned it's job done.

This is what I have heard as well. Whether it was a pursuit of professionalism or a pursuit of absolute power I guess we'll never know (unless the two parties continue to have a public spat and more info comes out)

Aidan McCartney ‏@aidanmccartney (freelance Jurno)..
Rather incredible story about Paolo Di Canio set to break soon on MailOnline. He is literally mental. #stfc

You gotta love the impact of the guy.  One minute we all want his babies, next it's just so we can go all King Hreod on them all

Why do dictators always get bad press? You need discipline in life, you need rules. This 'democracy' we live in today doesn't work at all, I would rather have 60 million people pulling their weight and working towards a successful, powerful country than today's layabout benefit claiming, tax evading minority ruining it for the rest. All for one and one for all.

Viva authoritarianism.

Whenever a player leaves, he was shit anyway. Whenever a manager abandons us, he's a cunt. Its a natural defence, though some of the criticism was valid IMHO.

When I saw the headline these were near enough the exact words that sprung to my mind.

Yeah. Shit at the top of League 1.

None of us would change this for the world.

You beat me to it.  The revisionism in the last few days by some on here is shocking.  The single act of his resignation seems to have thrown a different light on his time here.  From dedicated disciplinarian to dictator.  Some of the comments on here would almost be at home on a Shrewsbury/Tranmere or even Oxford forum.

I don't like it that he threw the towel in either, or that he walked away before he secured his legacy.  But he has left the squad in a better shape than he found it, and gave us a decent ride along the way.  Regardless of what has happened this week, he deserves more respect from some than he is getting right now.

King Hreod :D

Maybe he's pissed at SWP evicting him from Ramsbury Manor as well? I presume he won't be living there now?

But that was always going to happen wasn't it Rob? It was never going to be any other way was it?

Shaun wright-Philips?

Got a feeling the Mail story that's about to break is about McCormack and Di Canio.

nothing yet.

AB still tweeting

@bertthebold: I never signed up to the '3 year plan' - it was only presented to me once, and then only briefly...

@bertthebold: As it happens in 2011 I agreed to sell the club at the end of that season.  Paolo knew about this.  Unfortunately the deal fell through.

@bertthebold: The deal fell through because the FL concluded that they couldn't afford to run the club.  One of their main backers died suddenly ...

@bertthebold: ...in the final weeks.  It was all a bit tragic

@bertthebold: I put Jeremy in as chairman at the start if the 2011 season - for various reasons I wasn't comfortable but I didn't have anyone else.

@bertthebold: Jeremy and Nick interviewed Paolo and thought he was the right guy - I stayed in the background as I prefer. We gave him a 2 year contract.

@bertthebold: I've known Jeremy for half my life - he was a huge West Ham fan, and in particular almost obsessive about Di Canio.  This concerned me.

But he knew both Patey and Black were on the way out, so he wasn't going to have to work with them moving forward.  A couple of days in which he'd have no contact with them anyway, was it really that hard?

Patey is a complete twat though and could have given a far more diplomatically worded statement.  This has just fuelled the situation and I can see it rumbling on for some time.

Whoa!  This I never knew.  Puts a whole new angle on JW's tendency to fall in to line with PDC's wishes.

To be fair if you asked me to say no to Sam Parkin as a manager I'd probably struggle with that too.

Steve White for manager and he can shag my wife

Aidan McCartney ‏@aidanmccartney

Patience #stfc fans. PDC story will be live soon. Back-page business so late job. #dicanio

This Aiden reporter looks about 12.

Saw an interesting tweet from someone, who then withdrew it. Could be a very interesting story...

Sorry, he didn't give details, just that it could stop PDC working in football again. Not sure if guessing or knows something...

Should Black really be making comnents directed at Wray?  It's all starting to get a bit juvenile.

About a house?

What was it then?

Sorry, he didn't give details, just that it could stop PDC working in football again. Not sure if he's guessing or knows something...

I don't think he's really directing comments at Wray, if anything he sounds very sad about the whole affair. Just putting across his point of view which, for £10m he's probably entitled to do.

This

Paolo has always walked out when he lost trust in his employer or manager and he has done it again.

Surprise?  Hardly

Responsibility for employing volatile nutter?  the Employer, actually

STFC happy to take the commercial and footballing plusses then scraps a plan it was free to agree or not, a plan that never involved AB pulling the plug midway through a season and having his stooge raise the A word and send the press into meltdown (quite some achievement for a Brit Dip to do that over a crazy Latin)

When the inevitable happens it is PDC that is accused of lack of loyalty - unlike Macari (West Ham) Ardiles (Tottenham) Hoddle (Chelsea).

PDC is indeed now gone and TG we can now concentrate once again on STFC.  Or can we?

Bearing in mind some of the shit he has been getting in recent weeks i think he has every right to put across his side of the story

Hoddle took a lot of flack off of fans when he left.  Ardiles didn't because it had all gone a bit sour after the demotion issue.

@bertthebold: There was a lot of debt in the holding company, much owed to Sir Martyn Arbib, but he was always happy to write it off, as I was with mine

@bertthebold: The remainder was owed to Amdrew Fitton

@bertthebold: ...who was Jeremy's business partner.  He wasn't prepared to write it off.  It was very messy.  Andrew and Jeremy did not want me to sell...

@bertthebold: ...and we ended up falling out.  I won't go into the detail here.

@bertthebold: I decided I 2011 that I would have to replace Jeremy, but it took a long time to find someone.  Chairing a football club is not easy.

@bertthebold: Sir William did an amazing job for which  he will never get full credit.  I am hugely in his debt.

@bertthebold: I never got to know Paolo very well - I only met him a handful of times.

@bertthebold: Sitting in a board meeting with him is pretty surreal.  I said many times to Nick that we should get the cameras in for a fly on the wall...

@bertthebold: ...documentary.

I don't disagree, but no doubt we'll get a statement from Wray in the next day or so and it could get unpleasant.

Agreed
but they're legends now, loyal to STFC or not

Wonder if someone is doing a hatchet job on PDC. The Sun and Mail claim to have big PDC stories...Will have to wait and see what its all about I suppose.

Bet it's to do with tehoue

Is it going to be about agents?

Could PDC be taking us to court??

Why wait and see when we can speculate?

could Jonathan Tehoue be making a return?

I can assure you that if the TEF (or indeed, the internet in general) existed during those events then there would have been plenty of accusations of the same. In fact several are still sore about Hoddle in particular.

When the dust settles, then it will be fair to compare. Not in the emotional aftermath.

I reckon he's put a Cat in a Bin.

Judas!

(Don't really mean that, it's just what he was called)

And, if the story is true, the club had no choice regarding Hoddle. I read somewhere that there was a contractual agreement with Chelsea or something and that the club were obliged to let him leave.

Got to agree with Black, imagine if the same documentary that captured Hoddles rather sheepish exit was being filmed in the past few weeks instead!

:eek: This isn't the place to be making accusations such as those!

Anything but that.

PDC did once call his players donkeys and one or two have not appeared too often on the wherearetheynow thhread?

Could PDC be linked to the Findusgate scandal?

Italians love a severed horses head!

Has anyone seen Luke Rooney recently? just checking.

Hope he wasn't hiding in Paolo's toilet

I reckon he's been slashing tyres.

The incredible shame is that now there is a new owner, and Di Canio went away because of the relationship with the old owners.. So what the hell, there must be something. It looks to me that Paolo was kind of forced to go away. I'm pretty sure he wanted to finish his job with a promotion, but it looks like owners made if feel not wanted at this point.. And I'm talkin about the new owners as well.. If they were okay with Paolo they would have talked to him to explain the situation. They probably drove him crazy by ignoring him for long period, knowing with his bad character he would have gone away.

It's really bad.. also by him, I wish he would have swallowed his pride for behaviour of owners(sell of Ritchie as well), and thought only about finishing this season with style.. He should have done that, it's a pity.

I see nothing that suggests that Di Canio is some kind of victim. Personally, I think this is all result of a combination of factors from various sources - Not one person is solely to blame here.

It happens and, eventually, we shall move on.

Well, it's always a combination of factors in the end when somethin like this happens..  The truth is that it's a big big shame it ended like this.. And honestly I think Paolo at least deserved to stay, and deserved to be wanted by the new owners. He is for sure arrogant, and thinks too high on himself, but these great results are also the results of his incredible job, but it looks like he was not wanted anymore, since he was basically ignored by owners and not informed about stuff regarding the situation. 

I also remember when Ritchie went he said something like his deal was a pact between Black and the new owners, os the new owners were on board with this, and didn't think about maybe discussing with Paolo about this. Maybe everybody was scared of talking to Paolo about anything since he is a bit mad  :D

Not sure if I've misread something somewhere or it's been lost in the rush tonight but did I read somewhere that there was an issue between PDC and McCormack?

Yep, he stripped him of the captaincy after he went to the doctors, supposedly.

Ardiles talked about revisionism a page or so back.  I can say that, for my part at least, it is not that.  It is that there has been profound loyalty from club staff to the club for as long as PDC was in charge.  The sense of relief now though is tangible.

McCormack missed a training session and was stripped of the captaincy as a result.

the supposed reason for missing the training session was that he had a doctor's appointment.

i'd be very surprised if he's not captain for tomorrow