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Title: Better late than never
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:23:00
Takeover complete.

JedMcCoy ‏@JedMcCoy
Finally ..!!.👍🍺🎊🎉🎈... Look forward to meeting you all at STFC Saturday ..Thank you for youre patience


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: tj2002 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:23:42
Your, it's your.

Oh dear


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:23:57
Takeover complete.

JedMcCoy ‏@JedMcCoy
Finally ..!!.... Look forward to meeting you all at STFC Saturday ..Thank you for youre patience

What he's arranged a driver so he can have a drink on Saturday  :D


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:25:17
worst owner ever, he can't even spell.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:26:05
I'm just glad this whole takeover saga is over.

Let the new manager saga now take over..


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:26:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3TUWU_yg4s


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:28:35
Now to find out who they are then


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: DiV on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:28:39
...two weeks too late, damage has been done.

Fuck meeting us, show us some ambition now...


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:29:28
Now to find out who they are then

If they have cash and ambition there are going to be a lot on here who are very disappointed!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Langers on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:30:29
Thank fuck for that.

Now lets get the management sorted and win this fucking league!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:30:37
...two weeks too late, damage has been done.

Fuck meeting us, show us some ambition now...
i think that's what "better late than never" means.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:33:03
Some good news at last.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:37:52
worst owner ever, he can't even spell.

You mean worstest  :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 12:39:28
Now on Advertiser.... no mention of Martin King.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/10243595.Sale_of_Swindon_Town_complete/


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:02:16
Now on Advertiser.... no mention of Martin King.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/10243595.Sale_of_Swindon_Town_complete/

Although BBC are reporting that King is involved.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:02:32
Some good news at last.

Maybe. Maybe not.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:13:59
...two weeks too late, damage has been done.

Fuck meeting us, show us some ambition now...

That's it now. I'm never coming back whilst we're in this lowly division.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:14:41
As I see it they've saved us from entering administration and from the looks of things were involved in preventing us from selling any more players at a cut price. So far, so good, in my opinion.

Quote
On the evening of January 29 a fax was sent out across the Football League notifying clubs that all of Swindon’s playing staff were for sale at around half their true market value and a firesale could well have resulted before the end of the transfer window but for the new owners’ involvement.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:15:24
I did shudder when I read the club had emailed every other club declaring all our players are for sale at half their value.

Which nob-head thought that was a sensible sales pitch.

I fucking despair


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:15:40
As I see it they've saved us from entering administration and from the looks of things were involved in preventing us from selling any more players at a cut price. So far, so good, in my opinion.

and this from the same article:

"Had Swindon entered administration it is understood that the League would have been likely to hit the club with a more sizeable penalty than the mandatory 10-point deduction, with demotion and even expulsion from the league a possibility."


they might not turn out to be the perfect owners, but frankly, it's much better than the above reality


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:16:35
So I'm assuming more names wil lbe releaeed if the adver are only reporting 3 names as it is not beleived they have any money or sorts betwewen to fund the club's future.

Interesting times ahead, look forward to hearing their detailed plans for the future.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:17:30
I did shudder when I read the club had emailed every other club declaring all our players are for sale at half their value.

Which nob-head thought that was a sensible sales pitch.

I fucking despair

Yeah old board out....


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:18:13
So I'm assuming more names wil lbe releaeed if the adver are only reporting 3 names as it is not beleived they have any money or sorts betwewen to fund the club's future.

Interesting times ahead, look forward to hearing their detailed plans for the future.

The BBC story names 4 (those we already kniow) with a little more detail including King.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:21:04
so who are the dodgy ones again?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:21:36
and this from the same article:

"Had Swindon entered administration it is understood that the League would have been likely to hit the club with a more sizeable penalty than the mandatory 10-point deduction, with demotion and even expulsion from the league a possibility."


they might not turn out to be the perfect owners, but frankly, it's much better than the above reality
Quite so. But there's a nagging voice at the back of my head saying this is all very reminiscent of when that other consortium fronted by a bloke with no money but a nice line in affable chat took over in 2001. Right down to the "well, look at the alternative" takeover PR. I hope we're not going to spend the next five years stagnating our way to oblivion with a retread Bob Holt trotting out his "When I got back from Brentford ... padlocks on the gates ... be grateful for what you've got ...." party piece every time someone dares to suggest things could be better. Let's hope not, hopefully the start of a bright and ambitious future


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:22:41
Quite so. But there's a nagging voice at the back of my head saying this is all very reminiscent of when that other consortium fronted by a bloke with no money but a nice line in affable chat took over in 2001. Right down to the "well, look at the alternative" takeover PR. I hope we're not going to spend the next five years stagnating our way to oblivion with a retread Bob Holt trotting out his "When I got back from Brentford ... padlocks on the gates ... be grateful for what you've got ...." party piece every time someone dares to suggest things could be better. Let's hope not, hopefully the start of a bright and ambitious future
the past is the past and these are entirely different individuals. i agree that caution is required but some of what i'm reading - here and on twitter - goes well beyond caution.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: manc_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:27:42
First thing Jed needs to do now is tell us who the 'unnamed' members of the consortuim are. The longer they remein 'unnamed' the more concerned I'll be.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:27:42
Trust has to be gained.

At the moment I would trust this new lot about as much as Harold Shipman looking after me granny


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:27:42
the past is the past and these are entirely different individuals. i agree that caution is required but some of what i'm reading - here and on twitter - goes well beyond caution.

Indeed there's a lot of positioning for the 'I told you so' role going on at the moment.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:27:42
the past is the past and these are entirely different individuals. i agree that caution is required but some of what i'm reading - here and on twitter - goes well beyond caution.
Oh, hell yes. Right now, we are on day zero, we know nothing about these people and can only judge them on what they have done in their own pasts to some extent and moreso what they do from hereon in. However, it is a foolish man indeed who doesn't learn the lessons of his own past and the same applies to clubs and other institutions. Those who don't learn from the mistakes of the past are condemned to forever repeat them (paraphrasing horribly)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:28:35
Trust has to be gained.

At the moment I would trust this new lot about as much as Harold Shipman looking after me granny
thank you for proving my point :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:45:57
Indeed there's a lot of positioning for the 'I told you so' role going on at the moment.

Isn't that what you're doing?   ;)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:49:18
Quite so. But there's a nagging voice at the back of my head saying this is all very reminiscent of when that other consortium fronted by a bloke with no money but a nice line in affable chat took over in 2001. Right down to the "well, look at the alternative" takeover PR. I hope we're not going to spend the next five years stagnating our way to oblivion with a retread Bob Holt trotting out his "When I got back from Brentford ... padlocks on the gates ... be grateful for what you've got ...." party piece every time someone dares to suggest things could be better. Let's hope not, hopefully the start of a bright and ambitious future

I'm going to end up spending entire nights researching company and director backgrounds aren't I?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:50:12
With the current squad of players we have we should be able to achieve promotion with any half-decent manager. Then hold our own in the Championship with a couple of decent additions. Increased TV revenue and higher attendances should hopefully cover the higher wages of players. Therefore, there's no reason why we can't be successful and sustainable. 

The alternative to this buy-out just doesn't bare thinking about. I think all we are saying is give Jez a chance  :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:52:23
But we must still be losing £250,000 per month. Who's going to pick up that tab


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:53:58
Isn't that what you're doing?   ;)

No I'm optimistic which in my case is a once ibn a life time experience, so if it all does well obviously I told you so!  8)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:54:41
Ultimately I think we have got to prepare for a tightening of the purse strings for the simple reason that the model that the old owners pursued for the majority of their reign was totally unsustainable. In some ways we have dodged a bullet here by Black writing the debt off, as without that we were heading rapidly towards Portsmouth territory on a smaller scale, but probably proportional to our size.

I do fear that many have already made their minds up and if the owners don't start splashing cash and appointing a high profile manager the moaning will commence, we have been spoilt.

Interesting few days coming up, if only for hopefully some news from people like Fittton et al who may be able to shed some light on the last few months.

Also Jedders suggested he wanted to engage with the fans, didn't the last lot promise this on arrival and it never happened?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:55:33
I'm going to end up spending entire nights researching company and director backgrounds aren't I?

You mean you've not started? FFS! ;)

Let's hope not, eh?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 13:57:31
I dont think any sane Town fan expects the cash to start flying again - but I dread the usual spiel coming out preceding a fire sale of our playing assets


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:00:45
Couple of small whinges and then back to work.

This has been going on for what feels like weeks yet these is still nothing on the offical site, you would have thought they would have had time to draft something for release when required.

Why no presser with the new board till next week (accordng to Morshead on Twatter?)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:02:29
I dont think any sane Town fan

don't think there are any


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:03:09
Couple of small whinges and then back to work.

This has been going on for what feels like weeks yet these is still nothing on the offical site, you would have thought they would have had time to draft something for release when required.

Why no presser with the new board till next week (accordng to Morshead on twitter?)
Maybe some of them are away etc?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: nickhaw on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:05:51
I presume this means we could get some loaners in... Now.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:06:11
Maybe some of them are away etc?

How the hell can they go away, they have no money!!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:07:02
Thursday is signing on day


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:07:57
How the hell can they go away, they have no money!!
They've been clipping those "Week's break in France for a quid" vouchers from The Sun. That's why they have to go this week, they're always off-season those things


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:14:14
Meh, this board will need to win me over. I'm not convinced.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:19:31
I'm going to end up spending entire nights researching company and director backgrounds aren't I?

Start with my requested full colour picture diagram of who we still owe money to and by when ;)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: welshred on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:22:41
I presume this means we could get some loaners in... Now.

I think expecting Ward and Miller to identify some new signings is asking a bit much.

I'm guessing new signings would have to wait until a new management team are in.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:24:40
Why no presser with the new board till next week (accordng to Morshead on Twatter?)

In fairness, there was a presser scheduled today but they decided to hold it off until next Wednesday so as not to distract the players from these two matches.

Charlatans/bastards/chancers etc.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: walrus on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:25:57
From what I have read on the subject, the new owners have saved us from a potentially awful fate and have prevented the loss of five or six other Matt Richie's.  Jed seems to have nothing to hide on Twitter, and I think the board have shown ambition in buying a club like Swindon Town.  Okay, Manchester City we ain't, but we're a club which has had a successful couple of years and we do have a "rich" Premier League history!!

I think anyone who knocks the new owners at this stage is deluded and short-sighted.  I think it's wait and see time, but it sounds like they've made the best of a fucking bad job by the previous board by letting us into that state.  That said, had we not spent the money, would we sitting top - yes, top - of League One?

My feeling is, whilst di Canio has been a fantastic manager for Swindon Town, the manager hasn't hauled us up to where we are in the league, the players have.  The new board have managed to keep the nucleus of that squad together and it showed on Tuesday night when we battered the former league leaders at their manor.

Of course, if a Maurice Malpas or Paul Hart is appointed tomorrow, I may change my tune, but I think the future is still looking pretty bright.  I loved di Canio, I was gutted to see him leave, and I'd take him back in an instant, but I can't help feeling a Nigel Adkins or Glen Hoddle would do a better job.  They also might sign less Atiku's than PdC....


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:31:07
Start with my requested full colour picture diagram of who we still owe money to and by when ;)

Accounts for last season are due for filing at the end of this month. I have a feeling they’re not going to be pretty reading…..If they’re filed on time that is.

Will do my usual analysis for those sad enough to care.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:46:00
I'm relieved it has finally gone through, but I still have this anxious feeling about Jed & Co. Hope things become clearer once they speak next week!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: nickhaw on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:47:49
I think expecting Ward and Miller to identify some new signings is asking a bit much.

I'm guessing new signings would have to wait until a new management team are in.

I know there were a few already identified before PdC left. Obviously Rubbish Wright Phillips has gone elsewhere, but they must have had a few in the back pocket.

On reflection, you're probably right. At least we have more than 13 fit players at the moment, so it isn't as pressing as it was around transfer deadline day.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:48:33
But we must still be losing £250,000 per month. Who's going to pick up that tab

Are we? I thought that was the figure being reported as our wage bill, not our monthly loss.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:51:46
TBH I've got so much whirring round me head at the moment I don't know what I'm on about half the time.

Thank God there's a game to go to on Saturday/Tuesday - all this 'behind the scenes' stuff is getting on me tits


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:54:00
Accounts for last season are due for filing at the end of this month. I have a feeling they’re not going to be pretty reading…..If they’re filed on time that is.

Will do my usual analysis for those sad enough to care.
:ty:


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 14:54:34
TBH I've got so much whirring round me head at the moment I don't know what I'm on about half the time.

Thank God there's a game to go to on Saturday/Tuesday - all this 'behind the scenes' stuff is getting on me tits

Neither do we ;)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:10:19
But we must still be losing £250,000 per month. Who's going to pick up that tab
That's the wage bill which has been considerably reduced in recent weeks/days, loan players gone, couple of players moved on, no backroom staff to pay, two cars should be back in the car park, not got to pay the rent on a certain house in Ramsbury . . . the list goes on.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:15:50
I loved di Canio, I was gutted to see him leave, and I'd take him back in an instant, but I can't help feeling a Nigel Adkins or Glen Hoddle would do a better job.

League Two champions last season, top of League One this... is it actually possible to do a better job than that?

Perhaps people are just trying to convince themselves, but there has been some serious underestimating of the job Di Canio has done here these last couple of days.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: random_five on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:27:13
League Two champions last season, top of League One this... is it actually possible to do a better job than that?

Perhaps people are just trying to convince themselves, but there has been some serious underestimating of the job Di Canio has done here these last couple of days.

Agreed


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Huwwy on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:33:01
From what I have read on the subject, the new owners have saved us from a potentially awful fate and have prevented the loss of five or six other Matt Richie's.  Jed seems to have nothing to hide on Twitter, and I think the board have shown ambition in buying a club like Swindon Town.  Okay, Manchester City we ain't, but we're a club which has had a successful couple of years and we do have a "rich" Premier League history!!

I think anyone who knocks the new owners at this stage is deluded and short-sighted.  I think it's wait and see time, but it sounds like they've made the best of a fucking bad job by the previous board by letting us into that state.  That said, had we not spent the money, would we sitting top - yes, top - of League One?

My feeling is, whilst di Canio has been a fantastic manager for Swindon Town, the manager hasn't hauled us up to where we are in the league, the players have.  The new board have managed to keep the nucleus of that squad together and it showed on Tuesday night when we battered the former league leaders at their manor.

Of course, if a Maurice Malpas or Paul Hart is appointed tomorrow, I may change my tune, but I think the future is still looking pretty bright.  I loved di Canio, I was gutted to see him leave, and I'd take him back in an instant, but I can't help feeling a Nigel Adkins or Glen Hoddle would do a better job.  They also might sign less Atiku's than PdC....

A lot of sense there Walrus, but I don't agree about Di Canio. I do think he was a major influence on us getting to the top of the league and I feel certain that one day he will manage at the very highest level (with some spectacular bust ups along the way). But now we move on, right now I'm grateful to the new guys and cautiously optimistic for the future.

The last 18 moths feels like one of those mental lost weekends where you don't expect much at the start but then everything comes together, it's a total blast and you smile at the memories for years after. The past week has felt like the following Monday morning. But, as they say, don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.  :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:39:49
League Two champions last season, top of League One this... is it actually possible to do a better job than that?

Don't forget a Wembley final, and by my rough estimate knocking out 67 teams from higher divisions in various cups.

Not happy with the way his tenure has ended and feel like he's contradicted some of the personality traits he claimed to value so highly - but that doesn't change the fact it's been one of the best 18 months on the pitch in terms of success and aesthetics that I can remember.



Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:43:19
Don't forget a Wembley final, and by my rough estimate knocking out 67 teams from higher divisions in various cups.

Not happy with the way his tenure has ended and feel like he's contradicted some of the personality traits he claimed to value so highly - but that doesn't change the fact it's been one of the best 18 months on the pitch in terms of success and aesthetics that I can remember.



Not sure it was that many LR  :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:47:57
Callum Rice.... get googling people


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:48:32
 Seebeck 87


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:49:05
http://www.cdrex.com/seebeck-87-limited-8597134.html


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:52:45
Nick Wtakins is being retained .... I like this!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:55:04
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/seebeck-87

Capital: £1

I wonder what they're planning to spend all that on? :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:56:17
Callum Rice.... get googling people

Only listed as a Director in the new holding company and the company who own this place

http://www.theangelhotelbourne.com/


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:56:37
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/seebeck-87

Capital: £1

I wonder what they're planning to spend all that on? :)

Renaming Di Canio's Deli


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:57:25
Nick Wtakins is being retained .... I like this!

That is exceedingly good news.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:57:52
Nick Wtakins is being retained .... I like this!

Brilliant news!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:58:03
Nick Wtakins is being retained .... I like this!
This alone gives me considerably more grounds for optimism than I had this morning, is this pukka? Where is this being quoted?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:03
Callum Dermot Rice.  British citizen, living in Dunstable.  (These Luton connections won't go away.)  Postcode on one of the Director check sites is given as LU6 1BP, which is Barrie Avenue, Dunstable...which looks like this (http://goo.gl/maps/rdFjR).

Very average looking suburban street.  Assuming he lives there, I'm hoping he's not the money man.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:16
This alone gives me considerably more grounds for optimism than I had this morning, is this pukka? Where is this being quoted?

Sam Morshead just tweeted it.  May just be till the end of the season but its something


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Gethimout on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:27
Nick Wtakins is being retained .... I like this!

Best news of all!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:37
This alone gives me considerably more grounds for optimism than I had this morning, is this pukka? Where is this being quoted?

official site


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:45
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/completionofsale-670154.aspx


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 15:59:59
Sam Morshead just tweeted it.  May just be till the end of the season but its something
Does he actually know this or just "understand" it? :)


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:00:15
I hope you have no plans on sleeping tonight Simon Pieman


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:01:55
Very average looking suburban street.  Assuming he lives there, I'm hoping he's not the money man.

Maybe he lives there to keep the taxman from asking questions?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Notts red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:03:34
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:04:22
Maybe he lives there to keep the taxman from asking questions?
That's a house he bought specifically just to keep his huge piles of cash in, there wasn't room in the castle. What with all the gold and such


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:04:30
Good news about Watkins.

Quote
Following completion, which has seen Seebeck 87 acquire more than 99% of the shares in the Club

Didn't I read somewhere that Andrew Black was retaining 25% of the shares?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:04:33
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?

Company sec, not a director. May be a company secretary for hire, may be actually involved.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:04:42
Didn't Jed or someone say a while back there were links to the club within the consortium or have I imagined that? If I haven't then I fail to see these links  :hmmm: maybe it was Watkins being kept on!


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:05:14
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?
Is most likely an accountant/lawyer with no actual connection, looks like an off the shelf company


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:05:20
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?

He was just the Secretary, so likely to be an employee only.


Title: Re: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:06:40
Sam is very understanding.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: phelpsieboy on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:07:40
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?
Upon googling turns out he is a Solicitor


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Notts red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:11:00
Company sec, not a director. May be a company secretary for hire, may be actually involved.
I noticed he was a Director up until the 31st Jan and is now down as appointed secretary.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:11:41
From google they dont seem to have the riches of Andrew Black or anywehre close.

The future will be an attempt at self sustaining, developing the youth structure and running the club as a going concern.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:11:43
Ian Leslie Zant-Boer?

Company Secratary.

Position is listed as solicitor.


I have actually already had a look into Seebeck 87 which is a newly incorporated company (hence the £1 capital). At the moment Zant-Boer holds the single share – if this is anything to do with the takeover I expect a change of name and shareholdings very swiftly (or already happened).

Mr Rice owns and runs a hotel.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:18:15
I just dont see how the names involved  have the funds to keep a non leagueside let alone a Championship one going, I understand the sustainability long term but that is going to take a couple of years at least to even begin  seeing the shoots of success.  They have stated in the club statement "we will seek to further strengthen the squad for the rest of the season" , the whole thing seems completely bizarre "Seebeck 87 acquire more than 99% of the shares in the Club" I thought Black was retaining 15% or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:19:19
Could be financed by private equity. These are just the management team. Just a though.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:19:38
I just dont see how the names involved  have the funds to keep a non leagueside let alone a Championship one going,

How much money do they have then?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:23:25
Could be financed by private equity. These are just the management team. Just a though.

Hasn't Jed mentioned 2 silent partners in the past?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:24:47
How much money do they have then?

Just looking at the companies they run unless they have inherited money or won the euro lottery it does not seem they are particularly well off, of course I maybe wrong and they may have multiple off shore accounts from companies setup in tax havens all around the world .


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:25:18
Callum Dermot Rice.  British citizen, living in Dunstable.  (These Luton connections won't go away.)  Postcode on one of the Director check sites is given as LU6 1BP, which is Barrie Avenue, Dunstable...which looks like this (http://goo.gl/maps/rdFjR).

Very average looking suburban street.  Assuming he lives there, I'm hoping he's not the money man.

He's married to Pilau Rice. Oh well, I'm glad Black has cut all ties. Although he could have given one to Jed.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:26:40
Could be financed by private equity. These are just the management team. Just a though.

Very good point I guess there is no reason why a private investor has to reveal their identity and would not be quoted as a director.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: london_red on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:29:52

Mr Rice owns and runs a hotel.


Found a picture of him, it's a bit grainy though.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:30:17
It's called transparency which is what we expect - no secrets - no shadowy directors


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:32:15
The Angel Hotel, Bourne - somebody claimed that Callum Rice is a director of - has an interesting mission statement "To exceed your expectations whilst being supporting and being the hub of the community!"  If only that works out for us.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:33:01
Quote
“Despite the manager walking out on the Club, its players and its fans the day before a vital game, Tuesday night saw a wonderful performance from the team under incredibly difficult circumstances.  The Club’s position at the top of the table is a testament to the efforts of those who will now go forward with the new owners. Losing our manager is obviously a disappointment but, as the result at Tranmere shows, Swindon is bigger than any one person.

Ouch...a parting shot


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:37:10
Ouch...a parting shot

Fair fucks i say


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Huwwy on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:46:34
Could be financed by private equity. These are just the management team. Just a though.
Let's hope it's not private equity. Private Equity investors want a return on their money and often asset strip to get one. Better for us if we now have rich men on board who appreciate that they are only going to lose money buying a football club but have the cash and love of football to do it anyway. Unfortunately, Mr Black didn't seem to have the last box ticked. Who knows where we may have got to if he had?


Title: Re: Re: Re: Better late than never
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:47:29
Ouch...a parting shot
Patey didn't like Paolo much did he?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:48:34
I think the feeling was mutual.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:49:10
Who really knows?  None of us just a lot of speculation .....

But it does give off the vibe of a lot of people going down the we'll build a new stadium or re develop the existing one and see where we go from there


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 16:51:25
People are missing the point about the money. Andrew Black was ridiculously rich and yet he decided he couldn’t fund us anymore. What good was the money once he made that decision? In fact it could have left us where we started or worse (in footballing terms).

The club needs to be self-sustaining. I know we don’t have the comfort level without super-rich owners (in case the club do need a sudden cash injection) but I’m more concerned with how the new board will run the club rather than how rich they are.

I’m more interested in the following:

1)   How has the club purchase been finance? i.e. are there silent partners? What are the investment motives?
2)   What’s the business model?
3)   Will there be a redeveloped stadium or a new one in the pipeline? How will this be implemented?
4)   What’s the board’s ambition in business and footballing terms?
5)   How will it prevent financial difficulties in the future?
6)   What debts does the club have post-takeover and who does it owe this money to?
7)   Will there be related party arrangements?
8)   Will all directors be running the club full-time and will those that aren’t receive a salary?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 17:00:11
They could do a lot worse than to hold a Q&A session at the club in the next couple of weeks. If only there was some way to make sure the massive idiots didn't get to go and ask anything...


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 17:03:01
They could do a lot worse than to hold a Q&A session at the club in the next couple of weeks. If only there was some way to make sure the massive idiots didn't get to go and ask anything...
How about a question and answers session based upon tweets to Jed so he can answer them on the Adver site via Sam M, that way they can avoid stupid questions as could well be brought up by thisis type mongs.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 17:03:48
A few more:

  • Who are you, and how are you qualified to run a football club at this level?
  • Why Swindon?
  • Will JM's involvement with Banbury cease in the summer?
  • What is your exit strategy?
  • [Follows Si's Question #3] Have you yet had discussions with Swindon BC about the County Ground, the lease and possible redevelopment?


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: alanmayes on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 17:44:35
Could be financed by private equity. These are just the management team. Just a thought.

You've nailed our concerns in one Si.This is actually a far bigger question than who's going to be the next manager,
because this question defines the short-term and long-term future of the club.


Title: Re: Better late than never
Post by: Hoboken on Thursday, February 21, 2013, 18:00:06
Fair fucks i say

Me too - for a politician, that's pretty direct stuff, so him and PDC obviously didn't like each other very much.