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Title: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 11:52:02
There's this knobhead delivery driver across the road from work who keeps blocking the entrance/exit from the car park when making his deliveries.

He tells us that when he's delivering he's started his tacho break and therefore can't move his lorry even just 6 inches else he'll be breaking the law.

Is he being a complete dick?


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 11:55:46
Isn't the tacho meter done on time?


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: 4D on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 11:58:24
You haven't got a works car park, have you?


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:03:20
Yes we do (it's not ours technically, but we have permission to use it).


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: 4D on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:05:32
Is that behind the libby?

Actually scratch that, is it a navy blue lorry straight across the road?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: 4D on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:08:40
Get him to let the hand brake off and offer to push it for him  :)


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:44:06
If he has his tacho switched to break whilst working(loading-unloading)he'a breaking the law. He also should park legally to take his break anyway. Obstructing an exit is not a safe place to park and take a break.

He has probably ran out of driving time and has to  take a break but it has to be in a safe place. If he goes over his driving time he can explain why manually at the end of his shift. Unless he has good reason ie an accident hold up etc it will be down to poor planning on his part or the boss's

Ask for his boss'a number and phone them.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: nochee on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:46:16
I have a feeling that drivers can't use delivery time as a rest period as they are still working. So the 45 mins break should start after the delivery.

I may be completely wrong, of course


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 13:00:15
Truck drivers have to take a bewildering amount of breaks.  45 minutes every 9 hours of driving, 9 hours break after arriving at a venue, a 24 hours break once a week and a 48 hours break once every fortnight.  Proves a pain in the arse to me as I have to arrange with venues for drivers to stay extra days at the venue to take their breaks.  Tachos are all digital now and we often have to get another driver in to move the truck round the corner.

Hes not really being difficult but should have more consideration as to where he parks to start with.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 13:01:57
Ta.

He does it every week. And yes, he was unloading when supposedly on a break, so next time he tells me he can't move the lorry because he'll be breaking the law I'll tell him he's already breaking the law anyway.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 13:15:28
The law is an arse(eu legislation) and is confusing. A driver must t take a 45 min break after 4.5 hours of driving unless they have good reason to have to of continued. They can split it into a 15min and then a 30 min break but the 45 must be completed by 4.5hours. I've had to pull in Membury for 45 mins when nearly home etc as i would be breaking the law if i continued,even though i'm nearly back to base.

The driver concerned cannot simply park where he wants as i've explained above. He's breaking the law by working through his break too.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 18:04:34
Tell him to give way to the right at Roundabouts whilst you have a chat with him:D


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: supermarioTV on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 18:46:48
You should call him a cunt, I've been called it for a lot less on this forum over the last week.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 19:49:50
You're new here, aren't you.  Celebrate it.  It's a badge of honour.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 19:50:40
No, he's actually a cunt.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 19:55:07
What?!  You mean he's a cunt cunt, and not just a we-think-you're-acceptable cunt?


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 20:42:45
There's this knobhead delivery driver across the road from work who keeps blocking the entrance/exit from the car park when making his deliveries.

He tells us that when he's delivering he's started his tacho break and therefore can't move his lorry even just 6 inches else he'll be breaking the law.

Is he being a complete dick?

Yes and no Sam is your answer.

I sometimes take breaks when unloading my lorry....by law you are not meant to but many do...once you have put your Digital Tacho on break if the lorry moves(even one inch)then you have lost all the time off your break....so if you have had 35 mins....then have to move the lorry you have to start the break again.
But where he is being a knob is parking and blocking your work area....tell him in no uncertain terms he cannot have his break there and if he continues then its up to you how far you want to take it.
I often take breaks on the premises of people i deliver to...but never without asking for the manager and checking all is well with them....even if i get a whiff of them not being happy i will move the lorry and have my break elsewhere.


arriba is right....you are meant to have a break while not working(loading/unloading).....but if it takes an hour to do your unloading/loading then another 45 mins stuck on break then you can see why many drivers put there tacho on break while unloading.
It is almost imposible to cheat the new system with the Digital Card.....the computer warns you when a break is needed and there is no excuse not to have it.
For the record i rarely have a break while unloading/loading......you are usually parked in an area that requires you to move the lorry...which means losing the time you have had on your break.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 20:48:49

The best way of dealing with this problem is to tell him before you unload him that he cannot take a break...if he kicks off....refuse to unload the lorry.

I may have it wrong, but I think this Lorry driver has nothing to do with Samdy other than he is blocking the way.

I think Samdy is in no position to refuse to unload this lorry.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 20:50:09
No, I'm not in the habit of unloading truckers (oo-err).



Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 20:51:37
My drivers reckon you can move a bit, just not significantly.  They will often have to manoveur around to get onto a loading dock and this is done whilst the are on the mandatory 9 hours.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 20:54:40
The driver is causing an obstruction and working his break. Tell him the police have been called next time. He,'ll  soon fuck  off.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 21:02:57
I may have it wrong, but I think this Lorry driver has nothing to do with Samdy other than he is blocking the way.

I think Samdy is in no position to refuse to unload this lorry.

That is correct....mistake noted....post edited ;D



Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: leefer on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 21:06:03
My drivers reckon you can move a bit, just not significantly.  They will often have to manoveur around to get onto a loading dock and this is done whilst the are on the mandatory 9 hours.

You can do it,but only in exceptional circumstances.....but have to write it down on the digi print out explaining your reasons....but that can still get you into big trouble if the authorities believe you are abusing this loophole.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 22:19:34
Yeah.  Seems to be a standard thing in Rock n Roll.  Movement is bugger all really though.  Ive had to arrange for them to stay at Bournemouth for 2 days so they can have their 48 hours before they go off to europe.  Luckily the venue can accomodate.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: supermarioTV on Friday, November 9, 2012, 08:32:38
No, he's actually a cunt.

True


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Leggett on Friday, November 9, 2012, 08:43:06
Sam, when you bring up the whole working-on-his-break thing, if he gets shitty just mention that you'll be getting in contact with VOSA, the professional drivers at RM (and most of our managers!) are wary of them.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 9, 2012, 11:20:39
Get a couple of people to block the dickhead in with their cars and then say they've gone to the pub for lunch and should be back in an hour or so.


Title: Re: Lorry drivers of the TEF
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, November 12, 2012, 19:08:42
Get a couple of people to block the dickhead in with their cars and then say they've gone to the pub for lunch and should be back in an hour or so.

I'm happy to do this Sam.