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Title: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Dirty Harry on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:15:06
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Swindon manager Paolo Di Canio says Aden Flint was to blame for their 1-0 Johnstone's Paint Trophy first round derby defeat by Oxford.

The 23-year-old had just come on as a substitute when his collision with team-mate Darren Ward led to Alfie Potter's 88th-minute winner.

"Flint came in tonight as if he was on holiday and this is not acceptable," Di Canio told BBC Wiltshire.

"He has to take the responsibility. We lost because of him."


He continued: "It was like on Sunday when we lost for Wes [Foderingham]. We lost because of a stupid moment.

"He's a good professional but he has to improve."

Flint, who arrived at the County Ground from Alfreton in 2011, was first-choice at centre back at Swindon last season, alongside Alan McCormack.


But he now faces competition from summer arrivals Ward and Troy Archibald-Henville.

Di Canio added: "Flint's a good guy but he's got a big limit. This is why I brought in Darren Ward.

"I told them 'don't feel hurt when I bring in new players who can challenge your position'.

"Some of my players have to go one step forward if they want to become real footballers. Some of them weren't League One footballers.

"They have to know what they want to do in their life."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19506410

WTF ? Di Canio is losing the plot.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:18:48
2 defeats including a JPT game? Hardly losing the plot.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Dirty Harry on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:27:11
2 defeats including a JPT game? Hardly losing the plot.

Its not the losing games as to be fair i was one of the ones who said i would be happy to just stay up this season and at no point have had the expectation of us going up as in reality its a big ask. My point is all these public rants and how he points the finger at individuals in the press as its becoming an embarrassment. To be fair Di Canio himself made some wrong decisions with his team selection last night and anyone who argues that obviously didn't see the game.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:32:06
I cannot see any benefit in publicly criticising a player. Even one with the toughest skin won't Like it. Flint made a mistake for sure and won't need reminding of it


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:34:30
I thought about it earlier, and came to the conclusion it was di canio's way of ensuring flint keeps his feet on the ground. From what i've heard Flint can be a bit charlie big time, so maybe he needs to be knocked down a peg


Title: Re: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: herthab on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 18:40:57
The problem with PdC is that when he is asked a question he answers it fully, no holds barred. He has done this from day one, so why are people all of a sudden uncomfortable with it?  Oh yeah, we lost two games. Flint is a big boy and I'm sure he'll cope. He is also used to di Canio and his methods. Ward, by all accounts, had a terrible game, but wasn't singled out, maybe that shows that Paolo is a bit more understanding than some people think?


Title: Re: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:03:19
Flint was part of a record breaking defence and an absolute rock since the moment he became a first team player. The public criticism is completely unnecessary and makes Di Canio look like a complete prick. It has been a bizarre last week.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:04:23
Flint was part of a record breaking defence and an absolute rock since the moment he became a first team player. The public criticism is completely unnecessary and makes Di Canio look like a complete prick. It has been a bizarre last week.

But we don't see what goes on behind the scenes. Flint might have been slacking in training and might have gone into the game with the wrong mindset.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:07:32
But we don't see what goes on behind the scenes. Flint might have been slacking in training and might have gone into the game with the wrong mindset.

PDC did mention Flint's mindset and looking back, he's mentioned the mindset of a player every time he's berated them publicly. Methinks there's a method to his madness, I also thinks it may well be working.

Have any of the managers PDC played under had a reputation of berating players publicly? Perhaps it's a management 'skill' he's picked up from somewhere. Maybe even from one of the best.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:28:07
Darren Ward was utter dogs hit all night....I would of tried to stop him from touching every fucking ball.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:28:33
The problem with making comments like this is when it happens to a confidence player. Remember King and Jerel Ifil...

Maybe those mentally tough enough are not needed. I'd prefer he'd keep them quiet, but that's PDC I suppose.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:33:50
H doesn't need to keep quiet - just keep it in house


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:35:41
Saw Flint in Sainsbury's tonight with a bit of arm candy. I don't reckon he's that bothered to be honest! :D


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:36:54
What - about the arm candy?


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Spud on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 19:37:34
About matters relating to football.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:08:01
PDC did mention Flint's mindset and looking back, he's mentioned the mindset of a player every time he's berated them publicly. Methinks there's a method to his madness, I also thinks it may well be working.

Have any of the managers PDC played under had a reputation of berating players publicly? Perhaps it's a management 'skill' he's picked up from somewhere. Maybe even from one of the best.

It's a Capello trait. Did it all the time at Milan and at Roma and Juventus. He actually did it to Becks at Madrid aswell. Read his book. Research Capello.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:12:49
I think the influence of a manager like Capello is nothing to be sniffed at.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:17:40
Capello was never shy of criticising players in public, he didn't do it to humiliate them but because he actually believed in them and knew the potential they had. The ones he didn't believe in and the ones who didn't listen were just moved on regardless of their talent, ruthless ruthless manager. There's some excellent pieces on Capello, have a read.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: DRS on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:19:01
I also think the bbc taking snippets and making a story shouldnt be sniffed. The bbc are on thin ice if wray ends up having enough


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: red sheldon on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:20:45
I think that putting additional pressure on players particularly during the game when PDC starts punching the dugout doesn't help in players making the best choice of pass or clearance, sure some players will be mentally tough and won't think about it but others will end up making more mistakes and I think that PDC does need to start managing people individually to work out who needs the bollocking and who needs supporting, maybe thats why he hasn't bollocked Ward, or maybe he's just barking mad....


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 20:23:08
I also think the bbc taking snippets and making a story shouldnt be sniffed. The bbc are on thin ice if wray ends up having enough

I had noticed that being mentioned on twitter


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 21:09:57
Saw Flint in Sainsbury's tonight with a bit of arm candy. I don't reckon he's that bothered to be honest! :D

Cheap date.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 21:21:47
Cheap date.

It's the figs on offer...dates are still pricey.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 21:27:32
Blimey. Someone should warn him off figs if he's wanting to take her home.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Dozno9 on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 21:40:29
Stoned?


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 22:00:22
I think the influence of a manager like Capello is nothing to be sniffed at.

Pretty sure di canio hated Capello as a manager, reading his book it says that anyways!

Maybe he wants his players to hate him as much as he hated Capello, it's obviously getting results!


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: deltaincline on Thursday, September 6, 2012, 23:21:16
Just listened to PDC's post match interview from last night.

I think he was just pointing out that Devera, RDV and Flint are players that are of limited ability, but, if they remain professional and are willing to gain experience along the way - as they have been so far - they will be taught how to become better players.

He used the word 'Autonomy' when referring to RDV in particular. I read that as him expecting the likes of the three players mentioned to be more consistent in their performances as individual players. Which is a fair point to make.

He didn't slate Flint in the way he did Fodderingham at the weekend. He was much more considered and thoughtful - IMO.

I'm pissed off with his unreasonable treatment of Troy Archibald-Henville, Paul Caddis, Wes Fodderingham etc, but I don't think he was slating Flint in the same way, so give the cunt a break, eh?


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, September 7, 2012, 00:22:46

I'm pissed off with his unreasonable treatment of Troy Archibald-Henville

Didn't even realise something had happened with Troy??


Title: Re: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: tans on Friday, September 7, 2012, 06:21:05
I thought Troy was injured


Title: Re: Re: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Only Me on Friday, September 7, 2012, 06:25:30
Capello was never shy of criticising players in public, he didn't do it to humiliate them but because he actually believed in them and knew the potential they had. The ones he didn't believe in and the ones who didn't listen were just moved on regardless of their talent, ruthless ruthless manager. There's some excellent pieces on Capello, have a read.
That my well be true, but the art to good management is to deal with people individually, as not all people can cope with this type of slating.
I am not saying that Paolo doesn't do this, as his handling of Wards poor game may mean he is being handled differently, I am saying he should do this


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 7, 2012, 06:25:36
Didn't even realise something had happened with Troy??
I thought Troy was injured

I think he made this one up!


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Benzel on Friday, September 7, 2012, 07:17:17
Pretty sure di canio hated Capello as a manager, reading his book it says that anyways!

Maybe he wants his players to hate him as much as he hated Capello, it's obviously getting results!

He hated Capello but understood his methods.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Benzel on Friday, September 7, 2012, 07:18:07
Didn't even realise something had happened with Troy??

Nothing happened with Troy, he was back in training yesterday.


Title: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 7, 2012, 07:24:44
Just listened to PDC's post match interview from last night.

I think he was just pointing out that Devera, RDV and Flint are players that are of limited ability, but, if they remain professional and are willing to gain experience along the way - as they have been so far - they will be taught how to become better players.

He used the word 'Autonomy' when referring to RDV in particular. I read that as him expecting the likes of the three players mentioned to be more consistent in their performances as individual players. Which is a fair point to make.

He didn't slate Flint in the way he did Fodderingham at the weekend. He was much more considered and thoughtful - IMO.

I'm pissed off with his unreasonable treatment of Troy Archibald-Henville, Paul Caddis, Wes Fodderingham etc, but I don't think he was slating Flint in the same way, so give the cunt a break, eh?

Just watched that, did't realise it was on the site.

Talk Hurricane Irene in my cup of cha. Haaaaaaaaa, what a needless meltdown. I also see what DRS was getting at know.


Title: Re: Re: Paolo Di Canio blames Aden Flint for Swindon Town exit
Post by: walcot red on Friday, September 7, 2012, 08:39:46
I thought Troy was injured

I read somewhere that he tore a leg muscle after the Brighton game, though I might be wrong.