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Di Canio: 'I've matured'
           


  PAOLO Di Canio thinks he has matured both as a manager and as an individual over the past month.

           

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No you haven't. This is exactly the sort of occasion where you should be big enough to let a criticism pass without comment, but you have to have the last word, as usual. Like lots of insecure people, you're a bit of a bully. Yes you should have phoned Phil Smith, but of course, once people are out of your plans, they simply don't exist any more.

We'll see another side of di Canio when things don't go so well. It'll end in tears.

I dare say that you can't wait.

 :popcorn:

Who stole the jam out of your doughnut?

Paolo Di Canio

big test for di canio this season. spent lots of money last season and got up. will be alot diffent this season. he needs to get the right players in 1st time which wasnt always the case last year.

Let the good times roll you moist cunt.

:) Well now Davis seems to have caved in there's only me left to put an opposing view.

Oh, and I think we should have given McCormick a chance too.

I am all for people having whatever opinions.He has done alot wrong but redfrog your views are unbalanced and 1 sided.Pauld has not caved in either but i bet he is mature enough to admit that when he puts aside his own feelings that we have a manager who has done a good job so far.

Allowed to have an opinion obviously, just seems like your wishing for Di Canio and the club to fail so he is out of the door quicker.

I hate close season.

That is all.

I obviously agree you can't argue with di Canio's results, but you don't have to like the guy. I think he's treated all sorts of people very poorly, and I think like most managers, his approach will really be tested when things get tough. Not sure Jeremy will add five more players to the wage-bill next time Paolo goes on a pogrom. I want him to change rather than fail, but I don't think he can change as much as I'd want.

Change? Why?

If it's not broken, don't fix it.

As you were Paolo!

I disagree, he does need to calm it down a little bit. He can still have the passion (they day he loses that will be the day he walks out of the game) he just needs to be a bit more in control of it at times. As a manager it should be possible to have a difference of opinions with a player without it ending up as 'right, that's it, you're never going to play for the club again' (which is what I believe happened with Timlin) Or if a rival manager makes a comment about you or your team just ignore it for fucks sake, don't get drawn in.

He just needs to channel the passion a bit more selectively. There are times to be passionate and times to be calm and step back. Whether that happens of course is a different matter.

A record breaking season with a championship win, Wembley cup final and beating teams in higher leagues would suggest strongly that things are looking pretty good. Part of that success is down to PDC's enthusiasm and passion for the game so to try to change that would be counter productive. It is also largely because of PDC's persona that the club are enjoying the attention they are getting (think TV money).

Should we find in the future that we begin to struggle, and PDC's policies could be responsible for that, then he should perhaps change accordingly and the man himself has already indicated his willingness to change as he gains experience.

Last season we were screaming out for a manager that would not fuck about and now we have one, we want to change him?

Nah

Apart from comments about Constable and Oxford - which came back to bite him in the arse - I've loved every Di Canio interview and every Di Canioism he's used.

Such as the stuff about Steve Evans, dogs, his bans, the FA

Its brilliant and in some cases takes focus off the team.

Hell, back in what Feb/March he claimed he could be sent off every week and we'd still win the league - hell, ok he didnt get sent off but we still won the damn thing - just like he said we would.

Yet I hear you boycotted every game last season.  :wink:

That wasn't because of Di Canio though, it was because DV was too big for League Two.

:)

Yes.

The reasons I stopped going were because of the lack of passion, enthusiasm, effort, commitment, desire and ambition from the club as a whole. Selling all our best players first chance we got, not replacing them, hiring tired old rubbish merry-go-round managers. We went down without a fight from top to bottom.

Di Canio and Wray have changed all that and I couldnt be happier about it. Finally feels like the clubs has got its balls back - we no longer roll over and die.

You wait till celtic come back in for caddis ;)

Ha. That turned out well. My post was aimed at Flashheart.

I agree about the passion, but the messianic follow-me approach will only take him so far. The best managers have PdC's focus, but loads more skill at managing conflict and adversity than he's shown to date. Hard men usually fail in the longer-term. He says he's matured. I'm not so sure.

He doesn't have to change. Fergie and Clough are/were orrible cunts but they were brilliant managers.

So the likes of Mancini and Ferguson don't fall out with players?

Tevez and Balotelli spring to mind. 

Other clubs fans love his antics also....Reading,Southampton and Portsmouth fans have told me that.

Also Burnley and Hull fans on my travels.

The thing is also that people can say he'd be a better manager if he calmed down, but we don't know that to be true... it's a moot point. For all we know if PDC did 'calm down', it could have a detrimental effect on performances.

You prove my point. Neither of those players got booted out of their clubs (though admittedly Tevez came pretty close this year). Paolo can do falling out  - it's the making up he's got to work on. Would di Canio be able to manage either of them, or Cantona / Ronaldo / Rooney / [insert bolshy but talented]. Or even [insert any random arrogant Premiership brat] ?

I haven't proven your point at all. Every player and every situation is different?

Players booted out?

Should PDC have allowed Clarke to act the way he did?
Should PDC have allowed Tehoue to not train like the others?
Should PDC choose to play Kerrouche when he feels he isn't doing what he should be?

How many players do those managers 'boot out' because they aren't pulling their weight, only for us not to know.
How well did Ferguson handle Beckham?
Would Tevez still be with City had another club bid for him (obviously not)
How well did Ferguson manage Rnoanldo?
What makes you think Cantona or Rooney would give PDC a reason to fall out with them? Are they not professional players that get on with their jobs?

Blimey, it's hard arguing with the PdC ministry of propaganda. Yes, I think there's ample evidence to say that he might have dealt a lot better with the situations regarding all three of the players you mention. And that therefore he might struggle with the players I mentioned.

What would you have done with those players then RF?

And what is there to suggest that players like Rooney and Cantona don't pull their weight and would fall out with PDC accordingly? (you also mentioned Ronaldo, whom Ferguson couldn't handle  ::))

You have chosen 3 players as examples, one of which is a problematic player that even Ferguson couldn't handle (a tad self-defeating) and two others that appear to be model pros. I don't think you've made the best choices there

I may not have played them if I didn't rate them (but I'd have felt a bit stupid if I'd thought them worth spending large amounts of the club's money on only weeks earlier). What I wouldn't have done is get into a fight in the tunnel / call them a lazy black cunt / 50-year-old girl in the press. And to get back to where this started, I wouldn't have called a player who's worked hard and never said a word out of place for 130 games stupid for expressing disappointment that the manager wouldn't contact him to tell him he was finished.

But then, as you've gathered, I'm not your idol.

And you're not a (successful) manager of a football team either.

Did PDC want a fight in the tunnel?
Did PDC even call anybody a lazy black cunt?
Do you know the circumstances behind why PDC didn't make the call?

Ha and you say it's propaganda on his supporters part? God you are some cunt,lazy black cunt? know something we don't then? like i said entitled to an opinion but if you expect to carry on spouting shit after a very good season and not face responses back that support the manager then you are deluded.

Anyways

Your 'black lazy cunt' comment all but confirms what most of us have probably been suspecting all along.

As it stands, Paolo is god. Like it or lump it.

Possibly, which is why I broadened it to include any number of top players. I just think Paolo's got a whole lot more maturing to do before he can aspire to be a really decent manager. Like I say, we'll find out a lot more when things get tough.

Confirms what, out of interest?

Don't pretend there's no political reasoning behind this

So what are you condemning PdC for RF, having a ruthless streak? Making mistakes in his first season?
Not being the perfect football manager?
Sure, he's made mistakes. But along the way he's also won a Championship and got our team playing some lovely football, so a lot of fans (Myself included) are more than happy.
You don't like him, we get that. You don't have to like him to appreciate what he's achieved in such a short space of time. You don't have to like him to be thankful that we've got a manager, finally, whose passion matches the fans and whose determination and drive has given us one of the best seasons in recent history.
You don't like him, WE GET IT.

Not sure what that means, but to borrow your word, it's more about professionalism than politics. I think his management of conflicts and his public pronouncements about dissenters are deeply unprofessional.

Sure

QFT.

 FWIW I think Ref Frog raises an interesting point...it will be interesting to see how PdC reacts to a higher level of football, and the problems it will bring. He's already alluded to the fact that it will be much more difficult than last season, which might indicate he'll be less likely to throw the toys out of the pram.  We as fans can help by being realistic, and realising this will be  completely different to last season. To have any chance then the recruitment policy needs to be spot on...

Agree totally Reg.The flip side to this is we must also give credit when it is due.He wins the league and is told so he should,gets us to wembley and is told it's only the jpt,beats prem opposition and is told it was only the reserves.Today he says he acknowledges he needs to calm it a bit and the same people still have a pop.The man has made alot of mistakes and rightly gets the shit for that yet what matters is the results which on the whole he has got right.

I just hope the boo boys shut the fuck up this year when we lose a few on the trot.  Some muppets have come to expect us winning every week so will get on their high horses when we go on a bad run.

Di canio has treated some people badly and his comments about Phil Smith were out of order imo,as was him not bothering to call the bloke. The man is not perfect but we won the league and results are all that most fans care about.

I do believe that when things do go wrong,whether that be here or elsewhere then it will be a train crash for him i'm sure. I'm happy to roll along on his bandwagon for the forseeable future though,flaws and all.

Surely all (most?) of us agree that PdC is far from perfect but most of us accept that he has his flaws and hope that he can iron them out but meanwhile are enjoying the ride.
To an extent his flaws may be helping us retain him longer as they are likely to make a number of clubs at higher levels much more wary about taking a punt on him.

Ha! All this over a pre-season article to fill some column inches. Di Canio probably has matured but it doesn't mean that he's a changed man.

It will be interesting to see how Di Canio copes with mid-table/relegation form in the same way as how it was interesting and then depressing to observe a seasoned pro like Danny Wilson deal with a failing squad.

It's called football management.

It's great, I love it. It means people care, whether I agree with their view point or not.